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U.S. officials:Daniel Pearl was killed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
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Posted on 10/21/2003 9:17:09 AM PDT by Dog

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Grampa Dave
Yeah, that one was one of my favorites...heavy metal and Barney.
81 posted on 10/21/2003 12:32:08 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: Dog
If he killed Danny Pearl then he should be wasted. Hanged high, this will be a sgn of how much Musharraf must kow tow to his home grown Islamic fanatics.
82 posted on 10/21/2003 12:46:18 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Dog
Here's the original WSJ article to which AP refers:

U.S. Believes
Bin Laden Aide
Murdered Pearl

By STEVE LEVINE
Staff Reporter

U.S. officials familiar with the investigation of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl's murder now say they believe he was killed by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the alleged chief organizer of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the U.S.

If the belief proves correct, it would be the first known episode of Mr. Mohammed -- whom the U.S. calls one of Osama bin Laden's closest aides -- personally carrying out one of the deadly acts that he is better known for simply organizing. It also would resolve a question following numerous arrests and four convictions stemming from Mr. Pearl's murder last year: Who was the 38-year-old reporter's actual killer?[headcut]

Mr. Mohammed, suspected of being the al Qaeda terror network's operations chief, was arrested in March 2003 in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi, near the capital of Islamabad, and is being held in an undisclosed location.

Now Bush administration officials have told The Wall Street Journal and Mariane Pearl, Mr. Pearl's widow, that they have developed credible, corroborated information that Mr. Mohammed was "directly involved along with the men recently convicted in Pakistan" in the murder of Mr. Pearl.

Mr. Pearl, the Journal's South Asia bureau chief, was kidnapped Jan. 23, 2002, while reporting a terrorism story in Karachi, Pakistan. A month later, investigators learned of his death when they obtained a videotape that depicted his murder. It showed only Mr. Pearl's face, but not those of a group of men who, according to captured suspects, restrained him while one of them slit the reporter's throat with a knife. Mr. Mohammed, 38, is one of nine people in custody in the Pearl case. Until now, law-enforcement officials have considered him a plotter, financier and organizer of major al Qaeda attacks that he monitors from afar. He is accused of plotting to blow up 12 U.S. airliners in the mid-1990s. He also is accused of helping to plot the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and of masterminding the Sept. 11 attacks and a suicide bombing at a Tunisian synagogue last year that killed 22 people.

In April 2002 -- almost a year before his capture -- he gave a clandestine interview to Yosri Fouda, a reporter for the Qatar-based television agency al Jazeera. At one point, Mr. Fouda wrote in an account of the meeting, Mr. Mohammed handed him a video recording of Mr. Pearl's murder, and asked him to distribute it to Western media.

Last year, four men were convicted of organizing Mr. Pearl's kidnapping and e-mailing demands and photos of the captive reporter to news agencies. A judge handed down a death sentence to Omar Saeed, who trapped Mr. Pearl by masquerading as a follower of a cleric with whom the reporter was seeking an interview. Mr. Saeed met with Mr. Pearl in Rawalpindi and, using a false identity, exchanged several e-mails with him, then lured him to Karachi.[headcut]

Four other men are in custody for allegedly picking up Mr. Pearl from outside a Karachi restaurant where he awaited a ride to an interview with the cleric, then abducting him and guarding him at a nursery on the city's outskirts. Two of the four additional suspects led authorities to Mr. Pearl's body in May 2002, and described the last day of the reporter's life.

On Jan. 31 or Feb. 1, a phone call was received by one of the guards alerting them that some men would come to the nursery and that they shouldn't be interfered with, investigators quote the suspects as saying. Afterward, the nursery's owner -- a businessman named Saud Memon -- drove up with three Arabic-speaking men, the investigators say. One of the men spoke with Mr. Pearl, ordered one of the others to videotape Mr. Pearl's replies and killed the reporter, according to one suspect. It now is believed this main participant was Mr. Mohammed, an ethnic Pakistani who grew up in Kuwait and went to Chowan College in North Carolina. Pakistani authorities are seeking Mr. Memon, a garment-factory owner in Karachi. Last week, the U.S. froze the U.S. assets of the al Akhtar Trust for alleged terrorist activities, and named Mr. Memon a financier of that organization.

Reports of Mr. Mohammed's alleged role as Mr. Pearl's killer surfaced several months ago, but officials repeatedly dismissed them. But the investigators' allegation of Mr. Mohammed's complicity now lends credence to the two suspects' account of Mr. Pearl's death. It isn't clear whether Mr. Mohammed himself confessed under interrogation or whether some other fresh evidence emerged to convince the officials otherwise.

Among the many unresolved questions in the Pearl case have been the most basic ones: Who ordered him killed, and why did they do it? If Mr. Mohammed is indeed found to be the killer, that could answer the first question. Until his arrest, he was regarded as Mr. bin Laden's operations chief, so he wouldn't necessarily require anyone's orders for a relatively small operation. The second question remains unanswered, though.

In addition, it isn't clear whether Mr. Mohammed's only role was to kill Mr. Pearl, or whether he was involved earlier in the plot, such as at the organization stage. From evidence they have compiled so far, senior Karachi police officials have concluded that Mr. Pearl was kidnapped by one group -- organized by Mr. Saeed, who told investigators Mr. Pearl was simply a target of opportunity -- but that another set of militants assumed control later. An initial e-mail from the kidnappers didn't suggest Mr. Pearl's life was in danger, but a second message sent toward the end of January 2002 included a death threat. Mr. Saeed suggested to authorities that he alone organized the kidnapping.

Write to Steve LeVine at steve.levine@wsj.com1

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB106669677067651200,00.html


83 posted on 10/21/2003 1:05:56 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The speculation I've heard is that the Saudis and Pakistanis killed their respective guys, not us. They were killed by higher ups who knew that they could reveal VERY high-level associations with Al Qaeda. I don't know why we'd want to bother killing them when they could provide us with good info, but it's quite obvious why the Saudis and the ISI would want to off them. I'm sure KSM's capture prompted all sorts of interesting, er, reorganizations within various intelligence agencies in the Middle East, as they worked feverishly to hide relationships they had cultivated with him.
84 posted on 10/21/2003 1:20:10 PM PDT by diamondjoe
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To: Aggie Mama

85 posted on 10/21/2003 1:22:00 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Dog
An eye for an eye--take this Khalid out for a beheading--his own. And make this beheading with a rusty hatchet so more than one blow will be needed.
86 posted on 10/21/2003 1:33:20 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; hchutch
Of course this author left out the most hideous torture we submit these captured Islamokazis to:

That is 24/7 sound tracks of Barnie singing "I Love You!" played at just below deafening levels.

While plucking body hairs one by one:
I love you! I love you not!

87 posted on 10/21/2003 1:56:01 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Ah yes the plucking of body hairs one by one with a pair of genuine pigskin gloves. The right hand glove on the tweezers and the left hand glove pushing against the terrified Islamokazi body to remove each hair one by one.
88 posted on 10/21/2003 2:00:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Get a free FR coffee mug! Donate $10 monthly to Free Republic or 34 cents/day!)
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To: Dog
Extract any and all useful information, then peel his skin off while he's yet alive, followed by a slow and painful death...
90 posted on 10/21/2003 5:05:56 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: republicanwizard
No, firing squads are for military combatants. It is too good for scum. He needs to be hung like a common criminal he is... or... start a story he has given up Osama's location.
Put him in the Gitmo exercise yard. Give some of the more rabid Islamis at Gitmo those spiked trash picker-uppers on sticks and send them to do yard duty. Let mr. dirty undershirt be the one holding the trash bag during the "cleanup" detail. Let them do it for us! Death by a hundred small spike stabs... painful and long death.
Then tell the spikers we did not hear anything from Mr. Dirty undershirt about Osama. Then hang them for murdering a fellow prisoner.

hehehee
91 posted on 10/21/2003 8:15:28 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: demlosers
Firing squads are for military combatants not scum criminals. He needs to be put in a building that is being demolished. Cover him with jet fuel, patially slice his neck, light the fuel, demo the supports for the building roof.
Crushed and burnt like the 9-11 victims, neck sliced like Pearl. Feed remains if any to pigs. Cover remaining bones in pig droppings and entrails. Record the whole thing to tape and dvd and airdrop over the various population centers of the islamis world wide.

92 posted on 10/21/2003 8:24:12 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Deviously wonderful! All islami terrorists need to be subject to the same.
93 posted on 10/21/2003 8:31:52 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: ZULU; swarthyguy; All
These scum should be tried before a military court martial, not the kind of civilian courts which are tied up in twisted legal semantics and pass judegement in the States.

Well your argument goes against everything the US supposedley stand for Freedom, Justice for all. Your views are that of a totalarian state and I suggest you think a little before writing, or if this is not possible at least take a deep breath.

This is directly opposed to the systematic attacks like those launched on Israeli civilians killed by Palestinian lunatics in malls, on buses, etc. Or, I might add, on Christian Copts, Christian Nigerians, Animist Nigerians, Christian and Animist Sudanese, Iranian Bahais, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, and other individuals who aren't Muslim in any country where Islam is the dominate belief system.

Maybe you forget Sabra and Shatila, where even the Israeli government blamed Sharon for the slaughter of innocents.

Maybe you forget the Innocents murdered in Ireland over the last fifty years, as they were Christians and that does not happen, even though the murders were supported by funds given directly from the USA.

Maybe you forget


Timothy Mcveigh, who sounds very much like your own profile, white, male, Christian and right wing, and all the innocents that died that day.

Maybe you forget the persecution of Jews in the Spanish Inquisition. The Inquisition has its origin in the earliest beliefs of the Church, that Judaism was an abomination and a rejection of G-d's chosen one.

From the earliest Jewish settlement in Spain to 1480, the number of converted Jews who were burnt at the stake by the Church were relatively few.

In 1478 the Church authorized a powerful Church/State national Inquisition which would operate throughout Spain under the direction of Catholic monarches, Ferdinand and Isabella. Commencing in Seville in 1481, and later in other cities after trials, seven hundred conversos were burnt at the stake and by 1488 many thousands were tortured, punished, humiliated and others were reconciled to the church.

The Inquisition continued for another years as did the autos de fe (burnings of unrepentant conversos at public spectacles), other punishment and confiscations of converso property. (converso = Jew forcilbly converted to Christianity)

A belief system which systematically degrades women, persecutes non-believers

Maybe you forget that the Jews lived in Spain in harmony with the Muslims and after the Inquisition, the Jews that managed to escape, went to north Africa and Palistine and were welcomed and allowed to practive their faith.

With regard to your comment on degrading women, pornographic material is not allowed under Islam, but I am sure you can telll me the value this industry is to the US economy?!

What was the rape total in the USA last year?

What was the total of violent assaults againts women in the US last year?

What was the divorce rate in the USA last year?

Muslims do not believe in pre-marital sex, they believe in the sanctity or marriage.

What was the rate of under age pregnancies last year in the USA?

I am sure if you could supply Freepers with all this information, the entire Muslim world figures for the same questions and period, would not be even be on the graph in comparison, and there are 1.5 billion Muslims.

So I suggest you read a little, before trying to express your biggoted views.

I understand the US is a new country and with only a few hundred years of power under its belt, which incidently was achieved by destroying the original occupiers, men, women and children.

Then they brought over the slaves and treated them like animals and even up till late last century they still treated the blacks like second class or even third class citizens.

Well if you treat a man like an animal for long enough, he will act like one.

Therefore the USA, is hardly in a position to pontificate to the rest fo the world on how it should be done.

The USA should be quite on certain issues (like little boys and girls, that should be seen and not heard) and maybe it will learn on how things should be done and mature into a respectable nation. Insh allah


94 posted on 10/22/2003 2:34:38 AM PDT by John_11_25
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To: John_11_25
"These scum should be tried before a military court martial, not the kind of civilian courts which are tied up in twisted legal semantics and pass judegement in the States."

'Well your argument goes against everything the US supposedley stand for Freedom, Justice for all. Your views are that of a totalarian state and I suggest you think a little before writing, or if this is not possible at least take a deep breath.'

WRONG. We have used military tribunals to handle nutcases in the past - Nuremberg comes to mind. Piracy was tried in England in Admiralty Courts, not in the civilian couirts. There are a host of precedents here and in other nations where alternate methods of determining the guilt or innocence of an accused are employed in situations like this.

"This is directly opposed to the systematic attacks like those launched on Israeli civilians killed by Palestinian lunatics in malls, on buses, etc. Or, I might add, on Christian Copts, Christian Nigerians, Animist Nigerians, Christian and Animist Sudanese, Iranian Bahais, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Sikhs, and other individuals who aren't Muslim in any country where Islam is the dominate belief system."

'Maybe you forget Sabra and Shatila, where even the Israeli government blamed Sharon for the slaughter of innocents.'

I'm not familiar with those incidents. However, isolated cases like those you mention hardly counterbalance the overwhelming record of intolerance and persecution practised by Islamic states towards non-believers which continues up to this very hour.

"Maybe you forget the Innocents murdered in Ireland over the last fifty years, as they were Christians and that does not happen, even though the murders were supported by funds given directly from the USA."

The situation in Ireland is as much political as it is religious and the IRA is hardly a Christian organization, being composed of extremist left-wing elements which have a record of working hand in hand with Islamic terrorist cells. The USA never provided funds to the IRA, just some individual idiot American citizens who should know better and who should be prosecuted when caught - again in military courts.


"Maybe you forget
Timothy Mcveigh, who sounds very much like your own profile, white, male, Christian and right wing, and all the innocents that died that day."

Timothy McVeigh was an aberration. Also, there is strong evidence McVeigh was tied in with, or at least consorted with Middle Eastern elements in western American states, possibly agents of Saddam or Iran. At any rate, I haven't heard anyone from America's right wing defending him or issuing qualifying statements like "It was wrong he did it, but ...." as in the case of Islamic commentators on 9-11. Further, McVeigh and his actions were clearly denounced by any and every Christian and Christian clergyman in the U.S., unlike the waffling and dodging by Islamic clerics and officials over the frequent terrorist acts of Muslims.

"Maybe you forget the persecution of Jews in the Spanish Inquisition. The Inquisition has its origin in the earliest beliefs of the Church, that Judaism was an abomination and a rejection of G-d's chosen one."

THAT was a long time ago. Want to discuss the Assassins and the "Old man of the Mountain"?? How about Mehmed the "Great" and his sack of Constantinople?? This is all ancient history. What we are discussing here is the now and present state of things. Christianity has advanced with time, while Islam has regressed.

"From the earliest Jewish settlement in Spain to 1480, the number of converted Jews who were burnt at the stake by the Church were relatively few."

So????

"In 1478 the Church authorized a powerful Church/State national Inquisition which would operate throughout Spain under the direction of Catholic monarches, Ferdinand and Isabella. Commencing in Seville in 1481, and later in other cities after trials, seven hundred conversos were burnt at the stake and by 1488 many thousands were tortured, punished, humiliated and others were reconciled to the church."

Again, ancient history.

"The Inquisition continued for another years as did the autos de fe (burnings of unrepentant conversos at public spectacles), other punishment and confiscations of converso property. (converso = Jew forcilbly converted to Christianity)"

More ancient history.

"A belief system which systematically degrades women, persecutes non-believers"

'Maybe you forget that the Jews lived in Spain in harmony with the Muslims and after the Inquisition, the Jews that managed to escape, went to north Africa and Palistine and were welcomed and allowed to practive their faith.'

Yeah, again ancient history. But even then everything wasn't peaches and cream for Jews or Christians in Islamic lands - they couldn't openly practise their religion, bear arms, testify in court against a Muslim, had to wear degrading identifying dress, couldn't hold office, couldn't build new houses of worship, couldn't repair existing houses of worship, etc. etc.

"With regard to your comment on degrading women, pornographic material is not allowed under Islam, but I am sure you can telll me the value this industry is to the US economy?!"

I am not going to defend pornography - its indefensible. However, women who participate in it do so willingly, and the overwhelming number of American women would never pose in pornography. In Islam, the Sharia laws are forced on women, their actions are strictly controlled by the males in the society and they are denied all the basic rights - the few allowed under Sharia - which are granted to male Muslims.

"What was the rape total in the USA last year?"

I don't know. How many women in Islamic countries were raped or forced into unwanted marriages (basically the same thing)??

"What was the total of violent assaults againts women in the US last year?"

Again. I don't know - you tell me. But if you do, be prepared to present corresponding figures for Islamic countries, which of course, you can't, as statics like that are not kept there.

"What was the divorce rate in the USA last year?"

Too high. Divorce is wrong except in certain limited circumstances. So is abortion. The U.S. isn't perfect, but its a da@mned sight better than any Islamic Country.

"Muslims do not believe in pre-marital sex, they believe in the sanctity or marriage."

So do fundamentalist Protestants, Catholics and Orthodox Christians and me.

"What was the rate of under age pregnancies last year in the USA?"

Again too many. But what does that have to do with this subject??

"I am sure if you could supply Freepers with all this information, the entire Muslim world figures for the same questions and period, would not be even be on the graph in comparison, and there are 1.5 billion Muslims."

Like I said, I know Islamic Countries don't keep figures like this. How many people were stoned to death, beheaded, whipped, tortured or mutilated in Islamic Countries??

"So I suggest you read a little, before trying to express your biggoted views."

My views aren't bigoted, they are based on an historical and current investigation of Islam and its impact in Islamic countries and the words of Muslim Clerics and the Quran and Haddiths, and my knowledge of things like Wahhabism, the Islamic Brotherhood, etc.

"I understand the US is a new country and with only a few hundred years of power under its belt, which incidently was achieved by destroying the original occupiers, men, women and children."

Oh? And what happened to the non-Muslim occupants of Anatolia, the Middle East, North Africa, Iran, etc?? They were forcibly converted, driven out or exterminated. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw bricks.
But again, ancient history.

"Then they brought over the slaves and treated them like animals and even up till late last century they still treated the blacks like second class or even third class citizens."

REALLY??? The Muslims were the world's biggest slave traders. Slavery existed longer in Islamic Coountries than anywhere else, and as a matter of fact, probably still does, or so it is reported in the papers for southern Sudan. The U.S. more than atoned for slavery. It fought a long and bitter Civil War to eliminate it.

"Well if you treat a man like an animal for long enough, he will act like one."

Yes. So????

"Therefore the USA, is hardly in a position to pontificate to the rest fo the world on how it should be done."

The U.S is the most open, pluralistic, tolerant societies in the world. Maybe you should go there and see for yourself. If the rest of the world was as tolerant as we are, it would be a better place.

"The USA should be quite on certain issues (like little boys and girls, that should be seen and not heard) and maybe it will learn on how things should be done and mature into a respectable nation. Insh allah>"

If the Muslims don't move into the twenty-first century, the result will be a world wide war worse than WW2 which will destroy both Muslim and non-Muslim and possibly all life on this planet. Islamic nations will continue to live in a regressive, third world economic state. Islamic history had its high points - periods of time when it was a repository and disperser of science, culture and learning from the ancients which assisted the Europeans in moving forward. Unfortunately, the current generation of Islamic leaders - people like Arafat, Bin Laddin, Saddam, Mubarak, etc, are frozen in a regressive mindset. The opportunities for advancement of human society, knowledge and medicine are vast. Yet instead of using oil wealth to better their own people, provide education, create alternate economic possibilities to benefit their people, they waste their wealth on gold cadillacs, foreign women and weapons of aggression.


95 posted on 10/22/2003 6:58:11 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: John_11_25
"Timothy Mcveigh, who sounds very much like your own profile, white, male, Christian and right wing, and all the innocents that died that day."

REPEAT AFTER ME:

Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
96 posted on 10/22/2003 7:28:35 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: John_11_25
Don't mention jihadi on muslim violence in Kashmir, Pakistan Sunni SHia, and Algeria and the Afghanis killed by Pakistanis and other Pushtuns. No IGNORE intermuslim violence.

FYI, jihadis are killing more muslims in Kashmir than anyone else. Ditto Algeria.

Got every talking point down, don't you.

What an apologist for bloodthirsty scumsucking islami jihadis you are. A pox on them and on the Saudis and all the rest of the jihadis.
97 posted on 10/22/2003 12:31:00 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: ZULU
"...a belief system which systematically degrades women, persecutes non-believers..."

The five pillars of Islam:

murder
terror
fanaticism
oppression of Christians and Jews (dhimmitude)
oppression of women
98 posted on 10/22/2003 2:49:06 PM PDT by omega4412
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