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Terri's Fight - (Daily Thread/Updates)November 1-2, 2003
Various | November 1, 2003 | sweetliberty

Posted on 11/01/2003 7:37:41 AM PST by sweetliberty

TERRI'S FIGHT
(Daily Thread 2 - November 1-2, 2003)

Link back to thread 2 - October 30-31)

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Contained in thread 2:

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Contact information for the ACLJ, link for Chris Ferrara's legal brief, Senate Amendment to Terri's Bill, Ken Connor of the Family Research Council joins fight for Terri's Law, contact information for law enforcement and Judge Demers, Republic's impassioned letter to Judge Demers, Schiavo's claim that Terri's surgery was a success, link to CBN interview with the Schindlers (Oct 31), state's medical directors come out against Terri's Law, more links to testimony and legal debate, short bio on Judge Demers, update from the vigil and a doctor's exam report on Terri from 1990. Wacky Sam has also graciously offered to provide server space for documents to be kept to prevent their loss form other sources.

There is also a lot of discussion and links dealing with the seeming network of connnections between the girlfriend, Jodi, various insurance business links and possibly Terri's new doctor. In addition, several questions are addressed regarding Michael Schiavo's hiding of assets and tricks that may have been employed to throw off investigative efforts. Some of the FReepers have been doing their homework on the unholy alliances in the case. Let's keep working to connect the dots and expose the results. Also contained in thread 2 is some of Schiavo's litigious history, a bit more information on George Felos and more on Jay Wolfson. Some information on the doctors involved in Terri's case can be found on this thread as well. Since there are so many posts and links to the above mentioned topics, the best thing to do is to browse the thread.

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Click on pic for Terri's website

This thread serves as a place for posting all new general information and references, along with links following Terri's case, plus information on cable news and talk radio shows dealing with the issue, court cases and press releases. This is also the place to post contact information, prayers and general discussion.

If you have something that qualifies as BREAKING NEWS or FRONT PAGE NEWS, please post it on a separate thread in that category in order to give it maximum exposure and then post a link to the article/thread here so that it will be included in the next update of links. Also, if you post links to articles from original sources and there is also a thread on FR, please link to the FR thread. Many original links become corrupt over time and we want to be able to access the information at will.

Thanks again to everyone for all your hard work.

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Latest Threads On Terri's Case

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - Schindlers Respond to Michael Schiavo's Larry King Love-Fest - PART 2

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KEYWORDS: attorneyfromhell; daily; euthanasia; florida; forcesofevil; georgefelos; guardianfromhell; hino; merchantsofdeath; michaelschiavo; reallifeghouls; righttolife; schiavo; schindler; terri; terrischiavo
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Weekend thread....ping your lists.
1 posted on 11/01/2003 7:37:42 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Ping to new thread!
2 posted on 11/01/2003 7:38:26 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Bump.
3 posted on 11/01/2003 7:44:20 AM PST by manna
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To: sweetliberty
Some of us are probably feeling a little deflated today. When the Florida courts appoint a guardian who is NOT supported by Terri's parents, it just makes us sick. However, I suppose this guardian is not liked by the HINO either, since he wanted to remain in charge of Terri's affairs.

Good news that ACLJ (Jay Sekulow) has jumped in to defend
Terri's rights. The ACLJ has proven itself time and time again to be a champion for the family and pro life. (I sent a first-time ever donation to ACLJ after I heard they were taking the case - and it hurt a little cuz I'm not wealthy.)

I think we all need to just hang in there. Hopefully, the Schindler's will have good exposure on Larry King Live this coming week. We need to pray for a turn-around in public opinion.

I keep reminding myself that this is a spiritual battle and though our numbers seem to be weak, we are strong in our convictions and our faith. (Hint: David and Golliath)

I am so grateful and proud to be associated with FReepers who love and cherish Terri's right to life. God bless us all.
4 posted on 11/01/2003 7:44:42 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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Judge Makes USF Professor Schiavo's Guardian Ad Litem
5 posted on 11/01/2003 7:45:15 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Saundra Duffy
"I keep reminding myself that this is a spiritual battle and though our numbers seem to be weak, we are strong in our convictions and our faith. (Hint: David and Golliath)"

Same here Saundra. And I think, too, of Gideon. God has always used the weak and the "foolish" to confound the wise in the world. I am so thankful that we have the support and the faith of one another to keep us mindful of that.

6 posted on 11/01/2003 7:48:34 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
THIS Jay Wolfson?

February 4, 1994

TAMPA - A secretary at the University of South Florida who says she was injured during a faculty fracas just before Christmas filed a civil suit Thursday against one of the professors involved.

Jay Wolfson, a USF professor and member of the Hillsborough County Hospital Authority, threatened secretary Yolanda Santos, grabbed her and jumped on her back - all in a struggle over Santos' personal tape recorder, the suit charges. (read the rest at http://www.yerridlaw.com/verdict58.cfm)
7 posted on 11/01/2003 7:51:00 AM PST by debg
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To: manna; TrueBeliever9; All
True Believer sent me this. Can there be any doubt the forces that are involved?

Conservative, Liberal Law Groups Face Off by Steve Jordahl, correspondent

SUMMARY: A legal battle over the role of government in decisions about life and death is under way in Florida.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) -- two of the most influential legal societies of their respective ideologies -- will oppose one another in court to determine whether the state of Florida can order Terri Schiavo to be fed and given water.

The case stems from the Florida Legislature's passage last week of a law allowing Gov. Jeb Bush to stop the court-ordered starvation and dehydration of Schiavo, a 39-year-old disabled woman.

The ACLU quickly filed a suit challenging "Terri's Law" as unconstitutional.

"This is a dangerous abuse of power by the governor and the Florida lawmakers, and it should concern everyone," ACLU spokeswoman Alessandra Soler Meetze said. "It's an extremely frightening prospect when the governor negates a court decision . . . simply because he disagrees with the outcome."

The ACLJ joined the legal battle this week; Chief Counsel Jay Sekulow will argue that there is ample precedent for the governor's involvement.

"The Legislature has a role to play here," he explained. "The courts are not the sole and only arbiter of life-and-death decisions. What's interesting here is that the governor of each of the 50 states -- including the governor of Florida -- has the authority to issue a stay when it comes to someone on death row."

This case could have a significant impact on the right-to-life debate in Florida -- and beyond.

"The scope of this case is well beyond Terri Schindler-Schiavo's life, although that is obviously very significant," Sekulow explained. "It involves the whole role of what the legislative process is concerning life-and-death matters."

The trial should begin by the middle of November.

FOR MORE INFORMATION: Dr. James Dobson and a panel of guests discussed the legal and moral implications of the Schiavo case during a recent "Focus on the Family" daily radio broadcast.

Family.org

"This is a dangerous abuse of power by the governor and the Florida lawmakers, and it should concern everyone,"

It's a dangerous abuse of power alright, but it isn't the lawmakers and the governor who are abusing it.

8 posted on 11/01/2003 7:58:08 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
How do you think we should go about checking to see if there was insider trading around the same time that Jerger Insurance being taken over by Philadelphia Consolidated?

And shortly before that, Jerger took over a company run by Steve Beaty...how could we find out if there was insider trading on that?

Or are those types of takeovers done in a way that there would have been no insider trading?

I'm not saying that anyone we've mentioned here on FR was involved in "insider trading" (whatever that is), I'm just asking a general question about persons unknown.

Florida Trend, Sept 2000 v43 i5 p16

Beaty, 41, started as an industry outsider with his own company, Micro Business Systems, providing software to independent agents. For Pinellas Park-based The Jerger Co., he developed a pioneering program that allowed it to quickly identify mobile homes by ZIP code and park. Thus, it could grow into the largest independent mobile home insurer in the Southeast, even as it spread its risk so that a single tornado didn't mean catastrophe for Jerger. In 1986, he sold Micro to Jerger and became its chief information officer. When Jerger was sold this year, Beaty jumped to Bankers.
The Jerger Insurance subsidiaries gained Philadelphia Consolidated's A+ rating in after they were bought in 1999.
9 posted on 11/01/2003 7:58:13 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: sweetliberty
Sweetliberty, please add me to your ping list.
10 posted on 11/01/2003 7:58:39 AM PST by Beach_Babe
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To: debg
Yep, THAT Jay Wolfson.
11 posted on 11/01/2003 8:00:02 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; farmfriend; carenot; exodus
PING
12 posted on 11/01/2003 8:02:08 AM PST by countrydummy
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To: syriacus
You're asking the wrong person. I am not well versed on business or economic matters. When it comes to such things, I go strictly by the "economics for idiots" version. But it certainly does look as if there are questionable (to say the least) ties between a number of the players, from the hospice, to the doctors, to the insurance, to the mistress, to George Felos, to the Judges. I hope these unholy alliances will be exposed. It is looking more and more as if Terri is nothing more than a pawn in a huge, sick chess game.

I will defer to those FReepers who are more knowledgeable in this area. There are plenty.

13 posted on 11/01/2003 8:06:58 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Beach_Babe
Done.
14 posted on 11/01/2003 8:08:10 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty; Drk4The1; phenn; GWB and GOP Man; PhiKapMom; Ragtime Cowgirl; windchime; ...
Photo Exclusive...

The Schindlers hold a press conference showing a videotape of Terri interacting and being responsive. Pops Schindler was worried that he would be held in Contempt of Court for making the videotape public. Much to everyone's surprise, Michael Schiavo briefly took away the Schindler's visitation privileges instead.

This is a freeper photo by conservative-spirit.org. If you copy and paste, please identify the source. This photo needs to fly.

It looks fuzzy here. (If you'd like an email of the original, please freepmail freeparoundtheclock with your regular email address.)

15 posted on 11/01/2003 8:12:18 AM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: syriacus
PHILADELPHIA CONS HLDG CORP (PHLY)
. In July 1999 the Company acquired The Jerger Company, Inc. for a total purchase price of $20.0 million in cash, 1,037,772 shares of the Company's common stock and a contingent additional cash amount of up to $5.0 million based upon future earnings of the acquired business.

Of this purchase price, Mr. Thomas J. Jerger, a shareholder of The Jerger Company, Inc. and a former Director of the Company, [He was Vice-Director of Jerger and Sons in 1998; J. C. was added as Vice-Director in April of 1998, see here] was received $6.5 million in cash and 338,404 shares of common stock of the Company. Mr. Jerger may also receive up to a maximum of $1.6 million of the contingent additional cash amount.

Pursuant to the acquisition agreement, the Company entered into an employment agreement with Mr. Jerger for a period of five years and a base salary of $210,000 ("Base Salary") commencing July 16, 1999. Mr. Jerger subsequently resigned his position with the Company effective November 22, 1999 and the Company entered into a severance agreement with Mr. Jerger agreeing to pay Mr. Jerger the Base Salary through the original employment period of five years. The Company utilized investment advisory services from McHugh Associates Inc. of which a board member, Thomas J. McHugh serves as President.


16 posted on 11/01/2003 8:12:33 AM PST by syriacus (Casual comments about tubes, made after watching a 3 handkerchief movie, do not justify euthanasia.)
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To: Joe Brower; MeeknMing
Jpeg above from CS's scrapbook. Please freepmail me if you have any ideas on clarity, Joe or Meek. Thanks, FV's friend.
17 posted on 11/01/2003 8:17:23 AM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: freeparoundtheclock
Is this current? The HINO has taken away their visiting privileges AGAIN??? How can anybody not see what a control freak creep Michael Schiavo is?? What kind of man punishes a mother and father for trying to save their child's life? Oh yeah, the same kind of man who would terminate a disabled woman because she became too inconvenient and expensive.
18 posted on 11/01/2003 8:20:03 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
The photo is from a press conference that occurred the first week of the Vigil. Visitation was restored the next day but just another example of the mental anguish hubby and his attorney have put the family through. Now I'd like to re-print this from yesterday's thread. It's important as to what the Schindler Family's needs are in real time.

Please ping your lists to this post. FAMILY FRIENDS MEMO TO TERRI'S SUPPORTERS:

10/31/2003, All Hallows' Eve, Evening Prayer Vigils Resume

As you know, Mr. Schindler profoundly believes that as a result of your prayers, Terri is still with us today. Currently, legal proceedings have begun for Mr. and Mrs. Schindlers' fight for guardianship of Terri. In addition, the Schindlers are fighting Attorney George Felos' attempt to challenge the constitutionality of Terri's Law. The American Center for Law and Justice is joining the Schindler family and their local attorney in this regard and wish to uphold Terri's Law. We are very encouraged by this!

Many calls have been received by the public asking, "What is going on now?" and "What can we do?" Prayer is the most powerful weapon we have in the battle for Terri's life. Please continue to pray, and if you are able, visit the site of the vigil once again. Many of us are peacefully lighting candles at dusk Friday, Saturday, and Sunday evenings each week to pray for both Terri's healing and for her protection. This prayer has given this fight for Terri's life the momentum it gravely needed. We are asking for your perpetual support. Please tell all your friends, church members, prayer groups, sports teams, class mates, and families that we need your help. Terri cannot speak for herself yet and it seems that the siege is just beginning after thirteen long years.

The location of the hospice vigils is 6774 102nd Avenue North, Pinellas Park, Florida.

Mr. and Mrs. Schindler will be on Larry King next Thursday. We don't believe the official release has been given on this, but stay tuned for further updates. This is the best information we have at this point.

On behalf of Terri and her family, thank you and God bless you.

Many blessings, Friends of Terri

19 posted on 11/01/2003 8:27:27 AM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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To: pc93
Juan, current status of a ribbon campaign? Is it on? Please advise at your convenience on Saturday's Daily Terri thread.
20 posted on 11/01/2003 8:29:35 AM PST by freeparoundtheclock (TERRISFIGHT.ORG - Go to Hospice Woodside Make a Sign "TERRI'S ANGELS")
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