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NC-5: Sen. Virginia Foxx Is NOT the Answer
The Clemmons Courier | Dwight Sparks

Posted on 01/09/2004 7:24:05 AM PST by RepublicanLady

Sen. Foxx banks on her experience

N.C. Sen. Virginia Foxx By Dwight Sparks - Forsyth County has long dominated the 5th Congressional district. This year, a woman from the mountains is threatening to change that. She is State Sen. Virginia Foxx. The Banner Elk resident has the most formidable political record of all those running. First as a three-term member of the Watauga County school board. Then as president of Mayland Community College. And now a five-term member of the State Senate. Her district encompasses 35 percent of the voting power of the congressional district — a strength that has put her in the cross hairs of some of opponents. She claims the “most experienced” title in the crowded field. “Most of them haven’t even served in an elected office. I have represented a large part of the population already,” she said last week. Forsyth County represents 28 percent of the district, and the congressman has usually been a local resident. Sen. Foxx is not yielding the Forsyth voters. She wants to get her share here, too. “I have found a lot of appeal. I have gotten a lot of positive response in Forsyth County. We have friends in Forsyth. A lot of people have migrated here from the counties surrounding Forsyth, and I can identify with the folks here very well.” She lives in the shadow of Grandfather Mountain. She and her husband operate Grandfather Mountain Nursery on N.C. 105 between Banner Elk and Boone. They got involved in the Christmas tree business early in its explosion in the mountains, even delivering them to customers in this area. “We would pick out the Christmas tree based on the customers specifications, cut it no more than six days before delivery, and if possible, the day of delivery and deliver them to Winston-Salem, Greensboro and Raleigh. People would get their tree baled with their name on it. They trusted us to pick out their tree.” She was elected to the Senate in the 1994 Republican sweep. No Republican had ever won in that district. She has a 10-year voting record for her opponents to scrutinize, and they have. Winston-Salem alderman Vernon Robinson has challenged her conservative credentials based on some of those votes. “I don’t like negative campaigning. I don’t think anybody does. Vernon has attacked me on voting for women and minorities to be on the (UNC) Board of Governors, for goodness sakes. That’s one way he says I’m not a true conservative.” Robinson calls himself the “black Jesse Helms.” Borrowing from that, Foxx said, “I’m the female Jesse Helms in this race.” She says her voting record and experience as a politician can give voters an indication of what kind of congressman she will be. “There are some who think you don’t want people with experience. But you can gain experience without compromising your principles. If anything, I have gained strength in my principles since being there. (Former State Sen.) Betsy Cochrane told me that would happen. If you are a good legislator, you will become stronger in your beliefs. I’m not a waffler. I’m a kind person, but I’m a person who goes to the heart of the matter.” She says the rough-and-tumble General Assembly has prepared her for Congress. “(The General Assembly) is a tough place, there’s no question about it. That’s one of the reasons I think you need some legislative ability before you go to Congress. You need to have a sense of how those systems work.” She is the lone woman in the race, and that can be an asset and a liability, she said. “I’ve been told there are some men who absolutely won’t vote for me because I’m a woman. And there are some people who recognize that to be a woman and to be where I am I’ve had to work very hard. Perhaps I care a little more about people and doing things for people than some other candidates might. “I grew up extraordinarily poor. All I’ve tried to do in my life is the best at whatever task the good Lord has put in front of me. Prior to Richard Burr’s announcement that he was running for the U.S. Senate, I had not given any thought to running for Congress. And the reason I gave it some thought was because people came to me and asked me to run. They said, ‘You’re the most qualified person in the district.’” Born in New York City, she moved to Avery County at age six, back to her mother’s home. “As some people say, I wasn’t born in North Carolina, but I got here as soon as I could.” Her family didn’t have indoor plumbing until she was 14. Her husband, likewise, didn’t have indoor plumbing until he enrolled at the University of North Carolina. “We’ve both been supporting ourselves since 12 years old,” she said. She credits strong high school teachers for steering both of their lives. “In my case, I was the high school janitor my junior and senior years. I was sweeping after school, and there was a teacher who said you need to go to college and you need to marry a man with a college education. I was third in the class, but I had no intention of going to college. I took the SAT at the last possible time you could take it. I enrolled at Lees McRae as a day student. I had no way of paying to stay on campus.” Some of her views: On President George Bush: “I like him because he has backbone. He has strong faith. He focuses on what’s right and good. I don’t think he takes himself too seriously. I don’t agree with him on everything. I don’t think the federal government should be trying to run the school systems, but I understand his motivation. His motivation is to make things better at the local level. I think some good things have come out of No Child Left Behind. Look how North Carolina was lying about its graduation rate. They got by with it. We need a system of checks and balances among the levels of government, and every once in a while the federal government does something that turns out right. Forcing people to live up to those statistics may be the best thing that comes out of it. I just don’t think you should go into the classroom and tell the teacher how to teach.” On the war in Iraq: “I support what the president is doing. I have been astonished and pleased at the high calibre of our military, the young ones especially. We’re just so fortunate to have people willing to put their lives on the line for the principles we believe in.” On the response to the 9/11 attacks: “I’m not privy to all the information, but I have confidence in the president and the people around him. I believe they are doing what they need to be doing. We’ve got to be vigilant that we don’t allow things like the Patriot Act to go to far in terms of stepping on our rights, but we’ve got to do what we can to make this country secure.” On the delicate balance of religion and government: “I see nothing that these people would substitute that would provide the same kind of moral perspective that we’ve had in this country that absolutely has made us the greatest nation in the world. We basically, Christians and Jews, operate out of a system of love for others and a system that says we should do good for others. I don’t see anything wrong with that. The focus is doing positive things for other human beings in our Judeo-Christian heritage. There’s no better system. I don’t dance around it. It’s not intended to offend anyone. Maybe people have gotten a little too sensitive.” On gay marriage: She calls for a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a union between a man and woman. On Vernon Robinson’s criticism: “It doesn’t feel good, but my attitude is ‘this too will pass.’ I frankly don’t think people want that kind of person representing them. You can either have a bomb thrower or a thoughtful, intelligent person. You don’t have to be that way to stand on strong principles. You don’t constantly have to be berating someone else to get your message across. When you’re in Congress, like when you’re in the legislature, you have to get along with other people. No one does anything unilaterally. If you are constantly belittling and criticizing other people, then you are not going to be able to accomplish anything for your district and the people you represent.” She defined three primary roles for a congressman. “One, constituent service. I am known for outstanding constituent service. When people call me at home or write me emails, they get an answer. I’m accessible. Two, being a representative for your area, making sure you do what you can in ways it needs help. Three, standing up for the principles you believe in when there’s major legislation. People have to think about having someone in Washington who will vote right on the big issues but who will be focused on serving the people of the region. I have proven myself over and over to be able to do that.” Foxx served as Mayland Community College president from 1987 to 1994. The college serves Mitchell, Avery and Yancey counties and was faced with an auditing nightmare. “They had fired the first president. The school was in terrible shape. A month before I got their the auditors found the college had classes they should not have run and received over $300,000 in state funds they should not have received. The state told me I had to pay it back. We were forced to revamp. That was 10 percent of the college’s budget at the time. We eliminated a lot of administrative positions, but we came out of it a much stronger institution. My focus was on high quality. I told the people I didn’t want to be the biggest community college in the state, but I did want to be the best. We began some new programs and we eliminated some programs. We went from one of the least respected to one of the most respected.” One of the problems the college faced was adequate child care for its students’ children. With inmate labor and by raising money, a nationally accredited center was constructed to house up to 98 children. The inmates learned masonry at the college and used those skills on the building. “It took us three years to do it, but it saved us half the cost by doing that. And all but $50,000 of the $600,000 it cost in cash was private money I raised.” She and her husband, Tom, have a daughter and two grandchildren. She is a graduate of UNC-Chapel Hill with a degree in English and a masters in sociology. She earned her doctorate in higher education at UNC-Greensboro in 1985. She has taught at Caldwell Community College and Appalachian State University. Former Gov. Jim Martin appointed her deputy secretary of the N.C. Department of Administration. She was endorsed recently by the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List organization. “Many people believe that all women are pro-choice. It is time to end that misconception and elect more women to Congress who will speak out and vote against abortion,” she said. Why should voters consider her? “I’ve got values, I’ve got experience, and I will do in Washington what I have done in Raleigh. I have been a successful businesswoman, a successful educator, successful legislator. I share the values of the people of the 5th district. I work hard and will work hard. I have the commitment to serve others.”


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: broyhill; edpowell; electionushouse; nathantabor; nc05; northcarolina; northcarolina5th; oldnorthstate; vernonrobinson; virginiafoxx
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To: alancarp
Come again? Lousy campaign? Vernon got 45% of the vote in an apartheid district (that btw the Dems surgically drew him into when he had already filed for the state house in a neighboring, safe GOP district with no incumbent). Elizabeth Dole got 30% of the vote in that same house district. Allow me to put it another way. No other GOP candidate for the state house ran AHEAD of Dole by 15 points in 2002. In fact, Vernon got 70% of the white vote and 20% of the black vote. Imagine if every Repubican ran a "lousy" campaign with those results. If you don't like Vernon for some reason, that's fine. By all means say so. But don't make things up in an effort to belittle him.
41 posted on 01/09/2004 11:20:43 PM PST by conservativegadfly1
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To: conservativegadfly1
Hey CG1,

What do you think about my NC-5 Live thread, debate idea?

42 posted on 01/10/2004 6:21:37 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Links" build the chain of knowledge)
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To: TaxRelief
It's a splendid idea, but I'm skeptical that more than two or three candidates would actually agree to participate.
43 posted on 01/10/2004 8:42:12 AM PST by conservativegadfly1
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To: conservativegadfly1
I will stand by the statement: lousy campaign. The ONLY ads I heard were attack ads -- not a single positive message of anything he was for. It was virtually identical to the failed strategies of Lauch Faircloth and Richard Vinroot. For cryin' out loud -- the opponent should have been in jail (and for some reason still hasn't been charged), and he couldn't come up with a winning message.

Insofar as liking Vernon or not, I've said in multiple posts that he's currently got my vote for this district until somebody convinces me otherwise: I do not belittle the man, only that last campaign, and I hope to see a different style this time, for if not -- well, he won't survive the primary.

44 posted on 01/10/2004 7:17:00 PM PST by alancarp (Support Diversity: Hire a Neanderthal)
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To: JohnnyZ
Re: #30 -- a fair, thoughtful analysis. I share the spin concerns on Foxx.
45 posted on 01/10/2004 7:20:58 PM PST by alancarp (Support Diversity: Hire a Neanderthal)
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To: TaxRelief
I didn't say that he lied. Vernon just turned an insult by the Journal into a bump for himself. It was clever, but it wasn't meant as a true comparison. The very Liberal W-S Journal has always had a knack for belittling Helms. The $8.95 was well spent, I hope. Vernon is just not Jesse Helms, not all all.

Jesse didn't turn away women voters like Robinson, and is actually behind Broyhill. True, Helms is backing Bankrupt Broyhill just as a favor to former Sen. Broyhill, but he is not in Robinson's corner. No one in this race gets along with everyone, but Robinson, far and away, is the most alienating.
46 posted on 01/12/2004 6:42:12 AM PST by RepublicanLady
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To: RepublicanLady
Falsely claiming = lying.

Are you a democrat? Democrats twist the meaning of words.
47 posted on 01/12/2004 7:09:31 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Links" build the chain of knowledge)
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To: TaxRelief
Yes...I'm a Democrat. That's why I post on a Conservative website. Vernon just hasn't been crowned as the next Jesse Helms by any Republican outlet, it was meant as an insult by a very Liberal paper. I didn't mean to get it twisted indicating that he was lying, as I hope it's now clear.
48 posted on 01/12/2004 7:29:22 AM PST by RepublicanLady
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To: RepublicanLady
I guess Robinson, IYHO, is a great campaigner (because) he makes news for falsely claiming that the W-S Journal called him "the next Jesse Helms".

Vernon just hasn't been crowned as the next Jesse Helms by any Republican outlet, it was meant as an insult by a very Liberal paper. I didn't mean to get it twisted indicating that he was lying, as I hope it's now clear.

Yes. Perfectly clear.

49 posted on 01/12/2004 7:47:20 AM PST by TaxRelief ("Links" build the chain of knowledge)
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To: NathanTabor; Constitution Day; ConservativeGadfly; dixie sass
Well,since all the real conservatives are at CPAC, it will have to be after Sunday.
53 posted on 01/22/2004 6:50:31 PM PST by TaxRelief (P-a-n-t-h-e-r-s, Go Panthers!)
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To: NathanTabor
I hope the Ed Meese event went well for you.
55 posted on 01/30/2004 9:17:50 AM PST by GOPJustice
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To: NathanTabor
With the delayed primary, there is plenty of time to set up the online debate. I need to contact all the candidates and make sure that they all have a log-on (if they are interested).

What suggestions do you have for the thread debate guidelines? Obviously there is no need for time restrictions.
58 posted on 02/23/2004 3:35:40 AM PST by TaxRelief (What are you doing Nov. 2nd? Take a vacation day and come watch the polls!)
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