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Why is there a bias against interracial dating?
AJC ^ | 1/10/04 | AJC

Posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by freedom44

Shaunti Feldhahn, a right-leaning columnist, writes the commentary this week and Diane Glass, a left-leaning columnist, responds

SHAUNTI FELDHAHN for ajc.com

As a kid, I never realized there was a bias against interracial dating -- or that any serious racial bias still existed. Like most kids in the Washington, D.C.-area melting pot, I grew up around everyone from the children of African diplomats to kids who came over on the boats from Cambodia. My classmates spoke every language and lived in everything from luxury lake homes to public housing. Our dinner guests were just as likely to be from Nigeria or India as from Kansas or California.

After graduation, I left home for a summer waitressing job at a Colorado guest ranch, completely unaware that my multi-racial upbringing had been unusual. I learned fast.

Twenty young staffers came to the ranch from all over the country, and we girls put up pictures and frills to make each bunk our own. One evening, I showed another waitress my snapshots. She gestured at a Homecoming picture of me and my best friend with our dates, standing in front of my date's vintage Mercedes.

"And who is this," she asked, "your chauffer?"

"No, silly," I laughed, "he's my date."

"Your date?" She pulled away, appalled that I would go to Homecoming with a black friend. She stood up, walked out of the room and never spoke to me again. From then on, she communicated through other staff members. "Mary, tell Shaunti to fill the syrup bottles."

Word got around quickly. The next morning, the two cooks -- two young men who had been my friends -- started chanting, "once you go black, you never go back" over and over again. I was horrified, and had no idea how to respond. They were merciless the rest of the summer, and I received a ruthless and swift education.

Why is there a bias against interracial dating, especially between blacks and whites? Almost certainly, people with that bias are people who have no close friends of other races. And unfortunately that's still a sizeable population. Once you have spent time with each other, cried on each other's shoulders, worshipped together at church, or played games long into the night at each other's homes, somehow the idea of their daughter dating your son becomes a non-issue.

And that relationship, by the way, is what makes the difference between giving politically-correct lip service to racial diversity and having a real love for one another as people, and a desire for community.

The problem is, there will always be those who choose to wall themselves off from those friendships, whether out of subtle discomfort or hard-core bigotry. But in most cases, no wall is wanted. It's just that someone of another color seems different. And they are different. We all are. A rich mixture of different elements makes us all who we are -- including our race, gender, economic background, faith, beliefs and interests. That's what makes relationships so interesting and worthwhile, including dating relationships. And because racially biased people have never experienced it, they don't understand what a blessing that diversity can be.

Rebuttal Diane Glass AJC columnist

Shaunti gets a gold star for political correctness. I don't think many would disparage her heartfelt experience. But asking "why is there racism" isn't nearly as interesting or provocative as asking what you are going to do in the face of bigotry? We all know racism exists. Knowing something doesn't change it. Doing something does.

After Shaunti faced racism head on, what did she do? Did she shy away from interracial dating as an adult, bite her tongue and shake her head in silent disapproval? Or did she fight bigotry with spirited defiance? Silence and obedience are just as toxic a poison. And the question I'm dying to ask is: Would Shaunti consider marrying a black man? She advocates a stable home where the triple scourge of divorce, atheism and gay marriage endanger children. How would she feel about an interracial marriage fraught with social stigma, family arguments and sarcastic barbs at school? Would she take a stand against racism if her children had to suffer?

I wonder.

I ask because the statistics suggest that many may lament the failings of a racist culture but few want to withstand the approbation when racial boundaries are crossed. Since 1980, interracial marriages have more than doubled but today this still only represents a mere 2 percent of married couples in 2000.

Interracial dating isn't so black and white. Pardon the pun. And yet it is. The Asian population intermixes with any race and this barely raises an eyebrow. Likewise with Hispanics. It's often an issue of black and white relationships. Black men with white women is the most problematic for Americans, even though black men and white women are more than twice as likely to marry than black women and white men.

Resentment and a healthy dose of prejudice are veiled in the tales about the mythic physical endowments of black men. Yet racism isn't only a failing of the white population. Black women often feel betrayed by black men who look outside of their race and choose the arms of an enemy who exemplifies the American ideal. The blond Ivory Girl smile and blue eyes of Tiger Woods' future wife no doubt raised the ire of many who wondered why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race.

Racism, like the history of marriage, is about power: Who has it, who wants it, how can I get it? People feel betrayed and angry about interracial couples because these couples step across enemy lines. "Can we all just get along?" That's not likely until power among the races is on a level playing field and marriage, or dating, is no longer an act of treason.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: african; asian; black; blacks; caucasian; dating; diversity; intermixed; interracial; marriage; mixed; multiculturalism; pc; white; whites
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To: Eva
Yes unless you are in shipping,hospitality,etc. and maybe natural gas/oil too. Things haven't been easy there with the last guy in office (a friend of Bill (Bill W and Bill C) but he's out so that's good.
101 posted on 01/10/2004 11:12:39 PM PST by cyborg
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
God,I repeated your words except for they-I am not being sarcastic.IndependentSouthernDemocrat,You don't know me on this forum but I am just really listeneing right now and I like your honesty-.
102 posted on 01/10/2004 11:17:36 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: fatima
Thanks. There is a greater chance in South Carolina in 2004 for a white man to be lynched (by blacks) for being with a black girl, than it is for a black man for being with a white woman. Strange how things change in 50 years time.
103 posted on 01/10/2004 11:23:37 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
Come on "lynched"
104 posted on 01/10/2004 11:32:57 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: fatima
Yes, but not with a rope. It is usually massive trauma from a blunt instrument or just a simple gunshot.
105 posted on 01/10/2004 11:37:19 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
"Yes, but not with a rope. It is usually massive trauma from a blunt instrument or just a simple gunshot".From the blacks males?Why?
106 posted on 01/10/2004 11:49:10 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: fatima
Just the way it is.
107 posted on 01/10/2004 11:56:31 PM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: Sister_T
Even though I went out with white guys (I'm a black woman), I KNEW my husband would be black

I respect your right to marry within your own group, if you wish, but, don't you think you were defrauding those white guys (of their time, their money, and perhaps in some cases their emotions as well) by accepting dates from them when you *knew* you'd never marry one?

My rule always was, I wouldn't date anyone that I knew, up front, I wouldn't marry. Of course, for a fornicator looking to have a good time, dating women he'd never marry would be okay -- but as a Christian I saw no other reason to date, other than to seek marriage.

108 posted on 01/10/2004 11:59:40 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: fatima
Yes, from black males. I remember black males picking fights with me for talking to black girls on the school bus, directly after they were talking with white girls. There is a new double standard here.
109 posted on 01/11/2004 12:01:00 AM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
IndependentSouthernDemocrat,Thank you for you honesty, ,fatima.
110 posted on 01/11/2004 12:02:07 AM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: fatima
You are welcome.
111 posted on 01/11/2004 12:05:30 AM PST by IndependentSouthernDemocrat (RON PAUL 2008)
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To: freedom44
My older brother is married to a second generation Chinese woman. My younger brother is married to a second generation Mexican woman. My sister has a black son. Me, I married a white girl - I'm the racist in my family, I guess.
112 posted on 01/11/2004 12:08:38 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Jorge
This is understandable, but on the other hand there have also been high profile successful black females who seemed only interested in marrying very successful white men.

Success has nothing to do with it. They prefer white guys because they usually come pre-whipped ;o)

113 posted on 01/11/2004 2:07:15 AM PST by Woahhs
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To: GreatOne
My older brother is married to a second generation Chinese woman. My younger brother is married to a second generation Mexican woman. My sister has a black son. Me, I married a white girl - I'm the racist in my family, I guess.
If everyone were colorblind, and if blacks make up 10% of the population now, then after one generation 90% of blacks would have married other than blacks ('course their children, by historical standards, would all have been considered, "black"--but since I postulated that "everyone were colorblind," no one would notice in that case).

If everyone were colorblind, and if blacks make up 10% of the population now, then after one generation 10% of other-than-blacks would have married blacks.

"If everyone were colorblind", obviously requires a rather large "IF."


114 posted on 01/11/2004 5:24:45 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: Sir Gawain
I've never seen this "uneven playing field" that people keep talking about. Where is it?

Affirmative Action.

115 posted on 01/11/2004 5:28:48 AM PST by New Horizon
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To: IndependentSouthernDemocrat
I remember black males picking fights with me for talking to black girls on the school bus, directly after they were talking with white girls. There is a new double standard here.
In cases like that you don't ask "why?"

Double standards always indicate that the people who impose them can get away with them, and that's all the explanation you need.

Just as journalists call themselves (and, especially, each other) objective while attacking all politicians from the left. No other explanation is really needed but "because they can."


116 posted on 01/11/2004 5:31:08 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: mhking
Ping.

5.56mm

117 posted on 01/11/2004 5:36:38 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Sir Gawain
You've probably never seen the "uneven playing field" because when you are the top you can never accurately perceive how far down the bottom is. You are probably right though. The feckless public school educations, inadequate health care, and indecent apartment/project housing innumerable black kids live with probably is as equal a playing field as black people will ever witness in the land of lieberty and justus for yall. Oops, forgot to mention the drugs/weapons ridden neighborhoods we inhabit. But that's probably our own fault, since we are extremely resistant to burning down the coca and poppy fields in our sprawling backyards and the handgun factories at the corners of our streets.


119 posted on 01/11/2004 6:31:52 AM PST by malcolmtwain
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To: marron
"Jerk" has no color. I have always said that "jerk" should have its own passport and its own homeland, so the rest of us can go on our way in peace.

Well said.

120 posted on 01/11/2004 8:11:24 AM PST by null and void (Poor, poor Muttly....richer than many.)
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