Moore Trouble: Alabama's former chief justice may challenge Bush for the religious vote

Opinion Journal ^ | 02/02/04 | John Fund

[Pokey78]

A big threat to President Bush's re-election could come if his conservative base chooses not to turn out and vote in large numbers this fall. That's one reason he told a congressional Republican retreat on Saturday that he supports spending caps on the exploding federal budget. But the president could also still face a challenge from a social conservative running as a third-party candidate.

[CajunConservative]

I don't believe there is such a thing as "silent" prayer. Prayer is SPEAKING YOUR FAITH. If you can't speak .....?? And .. people need to realize that the devil is well aware that it requires your voice to activate your faith; why else would the liberals want you silent ..??

At times yes it is, but there is a whole group of people who can't speak. Does that mean that their faith is not real? I journal my prayers, I don't always speak them out loud, but God hears my prayers and answers them. The Holy Spirit is the one who intercedes when we don't have the words to say.

[Ohioan]

If a group is going to stab the GOP in the back every time they don't get 101% of what they want,

Do you really believe that we owe a greater duty to the party than to the Country; a greater loyalty to the party, than to our sacred oaths to uphold the Constitution (see the President's record on Medicare, Education, post-war Iraq, AIDS in Africa, etc.); a greater duty to the party, than to the continuity of the American people (immigration control); a greater duty to the party, than to the moral principles that have governed Western peoples in all the basically good and sound decisions they have made over the centuries (for example, the President's forcing Ashcroft to back down and let the Justice Department's militants mock Western morality with Gay Pride weeks, etc.)?

Take a deep breath, and start to put things in proportion. The party can do a lot of good; it has lately been doing a lot of bad. If we cannot arrest the bad within, we must do what we can to deal with it without. That is our duty to America. Live with it!

William Flax

[Diddle E. Squat]

Blah, blah, blah, self-righteous blah.

You and others can make all kind of idealistic pronouncements about how 'pure' you are, and how the rest of us are heathens or socialist sellouts, but it all comes down to the basic facts of politics: It is about coalitions and compromise. The winners never get everything they want, and you can't get power to implement your goals without winning.

Voting for Bush is hardly selling out, but costing him the election will almost certainly freeze the social conservatives out of power for at least a generation, and thus kill any chance of achieving our most important goals.

[Diddle E. Squat]

That was a pretty blunt and harsh reply I just made, but I've completely lost patience with conservatives threatening their own political suicide and to take everyone else down with them.

[Jorge]

>>Let's not forget the scriptures in which Jesus describes the hypocricy of Pharisees who want to be seen praying in public in order to gain the approval of men.<<

There is little danger of getting approval of men for praying in public in this modern-day version of Sodom and Gomorrah.

HA! Clever response.

But I don't think Jesus was talking about getting approval from prostitutes and perverts by praying in public.

He was talking about an appearance of self-righteousness that would cause people to see one as "good" or "holy".

[CyberAnt]

Well .. you're entitled to believe what you choose.

Peter said, "we believe, therefore we speak". Since I believe GOD ultimately wrote that, I allow people to argue it out with GOD.

If GOD chooses to make exceptions for people who for some physical reason cannot speak .. He is soverign and can do that.

If you choose to write your prayers and you believe they will be answered anyway .. that's your choice. I've never been led by GOD to do that. Although I do write things down, I always VOICE them outloud to GOD as well.

[COEXERJ145]

There is something about Moore that has always smelled. After losing his fight over and over, he should have complied and moved the monument. He had made his point and continuing to disobey was only making his stand look foolish.

Now if he is stupid enough to do something like this, it shows that he is not out for anything but his own selfish gratification. Moore and his followers need to stop being like the Deaniacs and lay off the .

[Leatherneck_MT]

Vote for Bush and continue to get what you've always got.

Nothing

[CajunConservative]

If you choose to write your prayers and you believe they will be answered anyway .. that's your choice. I've never been led by GOD to do that. Although I do write things down, I always VOICE them outloud to GOD as well.

That isn't the only way I pray, it is one of the ways I pray. I believe that God hears and answers prayers given from the heart in earnest, not just those we voice out loud. It is limiting God to say that we HAVE to voice our prayers in order to be heard.

[Hillary's Lovely Legs]

Vote for your freakshow and get Kerry.

[Jotmo]

That is why they are fringe lunatics.

I would not classify them as such.

I have MUCH sympathy for their desire to vote FOR someone who you can believe in and support with , if not your hole heart, a good portion of it. Rather, they have to ignore their feeling and do what will give the best of two bad outcomes.

I feel that way myself.

I haven't been pushed so far that I plan, at this point, not to vote for Bush. But I'm close enough that I can well understand the feeling of those that wont vote for him.

Sometimes gridlock look mighty good.

Were it not for the WOT, I'm not sure I'd still be in the bush camp.

I just can't say what I'd do.

[CyberAnt]

I never said "we have to voice our prayers to be heard". I said that speaking our prayers is what activates OUR FAITH .. not GOD's ability to hear.

GOD is a faith GOD. "And GOD said" and the world was. That's in Genesis. From the beginning GOD has been showing us how to activate our faith .. we need to speak what we believe.

Speaking to GOD .. is prayer!

[litany_of_lies]

Points:
- IMO, Moore isn't serious about running this year, just in shaking up Karl Rove and the Bushies with the possibility that he might. This is a useful thing to do, based on the drift of the past couple of months.
- The people who are doing the "it's all about him" meme just don't get it. As Coulter pointed out in a recent, Moore was targeted by the Southern Povery Law Center from Day 1. Then when he fights back he's the aggressor--GMAFB.
- Moore will probably conclude (and should) that the AL governorship is the way to go. After either 3 or 7 years, he can go for the 2008 or 2012 GOP nomination and be every bit as influential and successful as Reagan was. I don't think he would be too old--he appears to be mid-50s now, since he graduated from law school in 1977. He needs a TRACK RECORD of accomplishment (and in working with minorities) to be a serious player in the Presidential race..
- The people going after Pryor for his involvement in the Moore case should realize we have much more important things to do than take out someone who is on our side.

How about this for a dream matchup?--Moore vs. Hillary.

[Texasforever]

IMO, Moore isn't serious about running this year, just in shaking up Karl Rove and the Bushies with the possibility that he might.

Yeah Rove and us "bushies" are scared to death.

[litany_of_lies]

As I sit here wearing the "Bush for President" hat that has been my friend for 3-plus years, and that I wore as I protested the FL recount fiasco the day the Supremes stopped the FL nonsense with their injunction, and as a BIG fan of W as a person, all I can say to your comment is this:

You/we had better be scared to death. The fact that the idea of a Moore candidacy resonates with a lot of people indicates the presence of a base that currently is inclined to just stay home if/when Moore doesn't run and W doesn't get a grip. You can kiss IL, WI, MN, IA, MI, OH, PA and a lot of other usually-close states good-bye. Lose those states, and it's hello President Kerry.

[Texasforever]

The fact that the idea of a Moore candidacy resonates with a lot of people indicates the presence of a base

Then the "base" is not the "base" it is an opposition party. Moore, as was predicted, used his monument as a springboard for future elective office.

[Mo1]

During a question-and-answer period, Mr. Moore was asked if he would run for president. "Not right now," he said

Hey Judge Moore .. here's a hint

Don't push your luck by pulling a stunt like this

[piasa]

I'd rather vote for Judge Sanders Sauls- and he's a Democrat.

[Mo1]

The only thing Moore is hurting is his much vaunted principles.

I agree .. I was one of those freepers that stood up for him when the ALCU was fighting to remove the monument

I still stand up for the monument .. but by Judge Moore saying the things he said in this article .. he proved me wrong about him and everyone else was right

[Mo1]

You/we had better be scared to death.

Scared??

Nope ..

But I will say that I am very disappointed in Judge Moore and these comments of his

I thought he was fighting for a good cause when he fought to keep the monument

Little did I know .. he was only fighting for HIMSELF

I was sooooooooooooo wrong about Judge Moore ... I thought he was a man of prinicpal

I was So WRONG on that!