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Scientists Discover Lost World (8,000 Years Old)
BBC ^ | 2-15-2004

Posted on 02/15/2004 4:03:44 PM PST by blam

Scientists discover lost world

A prehistoric lost world under the North Sea has been mapped by scientists from the University of Birmingham. The team used earthquake data to devise a 3D reconstruction of the 10,000-year-old plain.

The area, part of a land mass that once joined Britain to northern Europe, disappeared about 8,000 years ago.

The virtual features they have developed include a river the length of the Thames which disappeared when its valley flooded due to glaciers melting.

This is the most exciting and challenging virtual reality project since Virtual Stonehenge.

Professor Bob Stone

Professor Bob Stone, head of the Department of Engineering's Human Interface Technology Team, said they were working to ensure the visual accuracy of the environment.

"This is the most exciting and challenging virtual reality project since Virtual Stonehenge in 1996.

"We are basing the computer-generated flora on pollen and plant traces extracted from geological core samples retrieved from the sea bed."

Dr Vincent Gaffney, director of the University's Institute of Archaeology and Antiquity and lead investigator on the project said they still had a lot of work to do.

"We intend to extend the project to visualise the whole of the now submerged land bridge that previously joined Britain to northern Europe as one land mass, providing scientists with a new insight into the previous human occupation of the North Sea."


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1 posted on 02/15/2004 4:03:44 PM PST by blam
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To: farmfriend
Stone Age Sites Found Under North Sea (8,000 Years Old)
2 posted on 02/15/2004 4:05:48 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
This "Lost World" coincides with Bush's unexplained absence from the Alabama ANG.

Coincidence? You decide.

3 posted on 02/15/2004 4:10:40 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: blam
For the most part, the North Sea is relatively shallow. This finding seems to represent yet more evidence that sea level was once substantially lower than it is today.

Not just in the orphaned Mediterranean and Black Sea basis, either. If sea level was 300' lower in the North Sea, it was probably 300' lower in the Gulf of Mexico, as well.

4 posted on 02/15/2004 4:10:44 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: JackRyanCIA
Gives Atlantis more credibility.

Of course Atlantis is true. Plato wrote about it. Yeah, I know the mad rush to equate Atlantis with Thera but come on, Plato wrote about it, and I don't buy the excuse that well, Plato could have gotten one thing wrong. Plato wrote about it ...

6 posted on 02/15/2004 4:14:52 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: okie01
...it was probably 300' lower in the Gulf of Mexico, as well.

Or more. The principle of isostacy says that if the weight of the glaciers pressed arctic lands down, non-arctic lands would have risen to keep the volume of the earth the same. So the apparent drop in sea level would have been greater towards the equator.

7 posted on 02/15/2004 4:18:20 PM PST by Grut
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Plato wrote about it. Yeah, I know the mad rush to equate Atlantis with Thera but come on, Plato wrote about it, and I don't buy the excuse that well, Plato could have gotten one thing wrong. Plato wrote about it ...

Plato also wrote about the pleasures of gay sex. Of course he couldn't have been wrong about that....

9 posted on 02/15/2004 4:19:44 PM PST by freebilly
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To: blam; HairOfTheDog; JenB; ecurbh
And even the name of that land perished, and Men spoke thereafter not of Elenna, nor of Andor the Gift that was taken away, nor of Numenore on the confines of the world; but the exiles on the shores of the sea, if they turned towards the West in the desire of their hearts, spoke of Mar-nu-Falmar that was whelmed in the waves, Akallabeth the Downfallen, Atalante in the Eldarin tongue.
[The Silmarillion, Akallabeth, JRR Tolkien]

10 posted on 02/15/2004 4:21:07 PM PST by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: freebilly
Plato wasn't gay. He just liked to enlarge the circle of his acquaintances.
11 posted on 02/15/2004 4:23:02 PM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: blam
***due to glaciers melting***


See! It's global warming! The sky is falling!
13 posted on 02/15/2004 4:25:04 PM PST by Gamecock (It is amazing how Internet filters can block out some people on FR)
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To: blam
"The virtual features they have developed include a river the length of the Thames which disappeared when its valley flooded due to glaciers melting. "

It's global warming I tell you. We're all gonna die!
14 posted on 02/15/2004 4:26:33 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: freebilly
I dont believe that just because an ancient historian or philosopher wrote about something makes it a fact. Who was it that wrote an entire encyclopedia about creatures that never existed, including a race of werewolves ... was it Tacitus?
15 posted on 02/15/2004 4:26:52 PM PST by tj005
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To: Grut
I expect all the 8,000 year old going-ons is linked to the collapse of the ice dams containing Lake Agassiz in North America. Flooding the oceans with not only more water but, a sudden rush of fresh water.
16 posted on 02/15/2004 4:28:29 PM PST by blam
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To: Grut
"The principle of isostacy..."

Isostacy. What a great word!

The geologic equivalent of "regressing to the mean"...

17 posted on 02/15/2004 4:33:40 PM PST by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; A.J.Armitage; abner; adam_az; AdmSmith; Alas Babylon!; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

18 posted on 02/15/2004 4:34:25 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: okie01
Actually, I always thought of it as what happens when a fat lady puts on a girdle.
19 posted on 02/15/2004 4:35:42 PM PST by Grut
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To: blam
The area, part of a land mass that once joined Britain to northern Europe, disappeared about 8,000 years ago.

Gee. There's nothing to this Biblical Noah's Arc stuff. How could a flood possibly affect the whole world?

Here's an interesting site. This National Geographic web site takes this particular news item a bit more global. It's about Ballard's quest to find underwater archeological sites in the Black Sea that could shed light on the great flood, particularly related to the story of Noah's flood and the legend of Gilgamesh. The tie to this thread is:

Almost every culture on Earth includes an ancient flood story. Details vary, but the basic plot is the same: Deluge kills all but a lucky few.

• The story most familiar to many people is the biblical account of Noah and his ark. Genesis tells how “God saw that the wickedness of man was great” and decided to destroy all of creation. Only Noah, “who found grace in the eyes of the Lord,” his family, and the animals aboard the ark survived to repopulate the planet.

• Older than Genesis is the Babylonian epic of Gilgamesh, a king who embarked on a journey to find the secret of immortality. Along the way, he met Utnapishtim, survivor of a great flood sent by the gods. Warned by Enki, the water god, Utnapishtim built a boat and saved his family and friends, along with artisans, animals, and precious metals.

Ancient Greeks and Romans grew up with the story of Deucalion and Pyhrra, who saved their children and a collection of animals by boarding a vessel shaped like a giant box.

Irish legends talk about Queen Cesair and her court, who sailed for seven years to avoid drowning when the oceans overwhelmed Ireland.

• European explorers in the Americas were startled by Indian legends that sounded similar to the story of Noah. Some Spanish priests feared the devil had planted such stories in the Indians’ minds to confuse them.

I wonder if, just maybe, there's a bit more than we "enlightened" modern folk might have figured out by now? Just because Jerry Falwell can't find his butt with both hands most of the time doesn't mean that the Bible is wrong. I've always felt that any "conflict" between scripture and science was in our understanding, not in the word of God or in the scientific facts. Either we've interpreted the Bible wrong or we've got our Scientific facts wrong. "God is wrong" and "science is wrong" are neither acceptable statements. "Humans can screw it up every time" is always a safe bet.

20 posted on 02/15/2004 4:44:27 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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