Kerry Bronze Star Certificate signature questioned. Investigation warranted?

Kerry's PDF Military Files on his Website ^ | 4-15-04 | me

[moondoggie]

How come the paperwork on Kerry's Bronze Star Award is signed by John Lehman, Sec. of the Navy????

In addition, the date Lehman (supposedly) signed it is not on the document.

Did Kerry not get the award when Chaffee was Secretary of the Navy? If not, why not?

Did Kerry get the award 15 years late?

Or is the paperwork a "sham" and somebody made a big booboo?

I'll post the document as soon as I find it again. Maybe somebody here has it bookmarked? And, if there's already been a thread on this that I missed....please direct me to the proper thread.

Thanks!

[cookcounty]

It's not the only time Kerry lost track of his chain-of-command. He's complained more than a few times that "Nixon sent me to Vietnam," but the plain fact is that in November of 1968, LYDON BAINES JOHNSON was the President.

[Parthalan]

Once again it should be pointed out that Chafee is and, as SECNAV, was a civilian. As such would NOT have been in a naval uniform at the issuance of a medal to Kerry.

[Bommer]

Speculation? Look at the signatures!

[Mo1]

It's John Lehman's signature. I received a Navy Commendation Medal/Citation that was signed by John Lehman in Dec '85. This why it has taken so long to release the records.....Kerry's gotten caught and he's toast!

And when did Kerry decide to run for the Senate??

[deport]

Secretaries of the Navy (Department of Defense)

Name	Term of Office
John Sullivan	September 18, 1947 - May 24, 1949
Francis P. Matthews	May 25, 1949 - July 31, 1951
Dan A. Kimball	July 31, 1951 - January 20, 1953
Robert B. Anderson	February 4, 1953 - March 3, 1954
Charles S. Thomas	May 3, 1954 - April 1, 1957
Thomas S. Gates	April 1, 1957 - June 8, 1959
William B.Franke	June 8, 1959 - January 19, 1961
John B. Connally, Jr	January 25, 1961 - December 20, 1961
Fred Korth	January 4, 1962 - November 1, 1963
Paul B. Fay (acting)	November 2, 1963 - November 28, 1963
Paul H. Nitze	November 29, 1963 - June 30, 1967
Charles F. Baird (acting)	July 1, 1967 - August 31, 1967
Paul R. Ignatius	September 1, 1967 - January 24, 1969
John H. Chafee	January 31, 1969 - May 4, 1972
John W. Warner	May 4, 1972 - April 8, 1974
J. William Middendorf	April 8, 1974 - January 20, 1977
W. Graham Claytor, Jr.	February 14, 1977 - August 24, 1979
Edward Hidalgo	October 24, 1979 - January 20, 1981
John Lehman	February 5, 1981 - April 10, 1987
James H. Webb	May 1, 1987 - February 23, 1988
William L. Ball	March 28, 1988 - May 15, 1989
Henry L. Garrett III	May 15, 1989 - June 26, 1992
Daniel Howard (acting)	June 26, 1992 - July 7, 1992
Sean O'Keefe	October 2, 1992 - January 20, 1993
Admiral Frank B. Kelso, II (acting)	January 2, 1993 - July 21, 1993
John H. Dalton	July 22, 1993 - November 16, 1998
Richard Danzig	November 16, 1998 - January 20, 2001
Robert B. Pirie, Jr. (acting)	January 20, 2001 - May 24, 2001
Gordon R. England	May 24, 2001 - January 30, 2003
Susan Livingstone (acting)	January 30, 2003 - February 7, 2003
Hansford T. Johnson (acting)	February 7, 2003 - September 31, 2003
Gordon R. England	October 1, 2003 - Present

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_the_Navy

[TomGuy]

I checked, he was slightly injured 2/28/69; 3/5/69; and 4/17/69 busy guy getting all scratched up that way. He obviously got the Bronse Star and Silver Star at least 10 years later, he was probably begging the Navy so much, they finally gave in and said..........give the sob the metals to get him off our backs.

IIRC, a few months ago, some of the guys who served with Kerry in VN made statements about Kerry hitting them up for recommendations for medals. That would have had to be later (after they were out of VN). It seems several agreed to sign the recommendations for commendations just to get Kerry to quit bugging them.

[Darksheare]

Odd part about the Lehman signature, they exactly match.
No-one can sign their name the same way every time.

That smells in and of itself.

[Ethyl]

This is indeed VERY INTERESTING that it looks like John Lehman's signature on this doc....TELL THE VRWC!!

Does anyone know who they are yet?? Besides hurlery?

[Godebert]

Click on the link in post #128.

I did...the Bronze Star citation has the Lehman signature. Am I missing something?

[GummyIII]

FYI...need to read the whole thread....

[Darksheare]

Interesting!
I don't doubt for a moment that the scumbucket finagled something.

[commish]

We also have another mystery in addition to the Lehman signatures.

Kerry has the following SILVER STAR certificate -- Signed by John H. Hyland, Pacific Fleet Commander and Then a SECOND certificate signed by Lehman.

Find law has the following SILVER STAR certificate -- Signed by Elmo Zumalt, Vietnam Commander.

While the event and date are the same These 2 Silver Star Certificates have DIFFERENT writeups.

[Glenn]

Am I missing something?

Yes. My fault. Click the link for the silver star.

[dalebert]

Very strange.

[Owen]

It is not unheard of for awards to be delayed. Teddy Roosevelt won the CMH, awarded by Clinton.

[Kaslin]

No It's a different one. The one you are thinking of is Lincoln Chaffee He might be the son of John H. Chafee?

Chaffee bio

[Robert A Cook PE]

Nope: Chaffee's signature is remarkably different.

[deport]

PROFILE

John Lehman is Chairman of J.F.Lehman & Company, a private equity investment firm. He is also Chairman of OAO Technology Solutions, Director of Ball Corporation, Insurance Services Office, SDI Inc., Elgar Inc., and Racal Instruments, Inc. and a member of the Advisory Board of Paribas Affaires Industrielles. Dr. Lehman was formerly an investment banker with Paine Webber Inc. He was President of Abington Corporation between 1977 and 1981. He served 25 years in the naval reserve.

Dr. Lehman was appointed Secretary of the Navy by President Reagan in 1981 and served until 1987. During his tenure as Secretary of the Navy Dr. Lehman was responsible for building a six hundred ship Navy, establishing a strategy of maritime supremacy, and reforming ship and aircraft procurement. He is also remembered in the United Kingdom for initiating immediate and sustained support to the Royal Navy during the Falklands War.

He has served as staff member to Dr. Henry Kissinger on the National Security Council, as delegate to the Force Reductions Negotiations in Vienna and as Deputy Director of the U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency.

Dr. Lehman holds a B.S. from St. Joseph's University, a B.A. and M.A. from Cambridge University and a Ph.D. from the University of Pennsylvania. He is currently an Honorary Fellow of Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge University.

Dr. Lehman has written numerous books,
including Command of the Seas, Making War
and On Seas of Glory.

In December, 2002, Dr. Lehman was appointed to the National Commission to investigate the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001.

He serves as Chairman of the Princess Grace Foundation USA, a director of OpSail Foundation, a member of the Board of Overseers of the School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania and a trustee of LaSalle College High School. He lives in Pennsylvania with his wife and three children, where he plays an active role in land preservation through The Heritage Conservancy.

[Mo1]

FYI PING

[SC Swamp Fox]

I FOUND IT!

I have John Lehman's signature on a Navy Unit Commendation received by the USS Saratoga CV-60 in 1986.

I am scanning it now...but I will save you the suspense:
IT IS IDENTICAL TO THE ONE ON JOHN KERRY'S SILVER STAR!