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.50-caliber gun ban ill-advised
times union ^ | 4 23 04 | fred lebrun

Posted on 04/23/2004 12:28:56 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: freepatriot32
"...ammo as hard to find as a unicorn's toenail, the .50 cal is an exotic."

You gotta be kidding me.
21 posted on 04/23/2004 1:35:54 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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To: freepatriot32
Would this .50 caliber and above ban apply to historic re-enactments? Afterall, the flint lock rifles our colonial militiamen carried (which was their household hunting rifle) were typically around .75 caliber!

This says it all. There is a bill in the New York Assembly that, if enacted 250 years ago, would have deprived colonials of their rifles, prevented them from winning the battle of Saratoga, and likely cost the United States the war and its freedom. And afterwards, the American leaders would have been hanged for treason by the British. In short, the bill, if enacted 250 years ago, would have sent Sam and John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, John Hancock, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, Patrick Henry, Benjamin Rush, Alexander Hamilton, etc to the gallows.
22 posted on 04/23/2004 1:37:27 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: freepatriot32
with ammo as hard to find as a unicorn's toenail, the .50 cal is an exotic.

Author is right, that was hard to find < /sarcasm >

50 BMG Ammo on the web

23 posted on 04/23/2004 1:37:32 PM PDT by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: freepatriot32
Geeezzz, Most terrorist per-fer the Russian made rifles. I will not mention any type as not to give any liberal an idea. The also per-fer other type of weapons like RPG, bombs, airplanes, etc. I glad she not trying to ban any of these weapons. That would really suck. Not being able to fly in NY. The conservative should really complain that airplanes are not part of the ban.
24 posted on 04/23/2004 1:45:02 PM PDT by Warlord David
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To: 12GA
"If I had my druthers, I’d go further than legislation. I don’t wanna see some people with this weapon at all." (Further than legislation? )

"If someone is so fearful that, that they’re going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that these people have these weapons at all!" (How DARE we even THINK that we have rights at all! Much less that we can protect them!)

"I don’t think everybody has a right to a weapon that can be used to kill innocent people and maybe threaten the life of a president of the United States."

Congressman Henry Waxman May 14, 2001 on .50 cal rifles
25 posted on 04/23/2004 1:46:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: dix; TheMom
Fergot to ping y'all!!
26 posted on 04/23/2004 1:47:20 PM PDT by Eaker (That the bright star of Texas shall never be dim while her soil boasts a son to raise rifle or limb.)
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To: freepatriot32
Hey, calm down. It's just .50.
Hey, calm down. It's just .45.
Hey, calm down....
27 posted on 04/23/2004 1:49:32 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: freepatriot32
"Most sportsmen I know don't see the need to get worked up over New York State Assembly legislation that would ban the sale and ownership of a .50-caliber gun."

0.50 ... 0.49 ... 0.48 ... 0.47 ... 0.46 ... 0.45

just a few short steps.
28 posted on 04/23/2004 1:49:54 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Is that a S&W .50 in your pocket? Or are you just happy to see me?

Happy? I'd say downright overjoyed!! (or overdosed on Viagra)

29 posted on 04/23/2004 1:50:30 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: freepatriot32
1.) Hunting has nothing to do with the second amendment.
2.) The strategy here is clear. It is a matter of divide and conquer. Divide guns into different categories, such as assult rifles (which is a cosmetic classification), and then ban. Now they are working on caliber of weapons (which is a size calssification). Sorry to say this, you can just killed by a .22 or a .50 and you are just as dead. If the .50 cal ban works, they will attack from the other end. Start with paintball guns and work up. There is already a lot of legistlation on the books for paintball guns, bb-guns, air-guns, etc. and it is growing. All based on, "You'll shoot your eye out" type logic. So as things are being squeezed from both ends, they will finally get to a .308 - which guess what, is a typical sniper weapon.

From my cold dead hands!!!
30 posted on 04/23/2004 1:52:52 PM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I don’t think everybody has a right to a weapon that can be used to kill innocent people

Headline from earlier today...

Soldier Back From Iraq War Allegedly Drowns Wife In Tub

I look forward to Henry Waxman's upcoming "bathtub ban." Of course, it will srart with the "assualt bathubs."

31 posted on 04/23/2004 1:56:20 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Eaker; neverdem; humblegunner; Flyer; Squantos
Well, I, for one, share Assemblywoman Patricia Eddington's concern.

She works in the public school system, and I'm sure she has bad dreams, just as I do, about the little first grade varmints carrying these awful weapons to school in their backpacks.
It's too awful to imagine the carnage and mayhem!

Just think about it:
When I was in first grade the worst thing I had to fear was a spitball from the little a**hole who sat behind me!
Now he could blow me away from a mile away!
Whew!
I'm glad someone in our public school system has some common sense!

32 posted on 04/23/2004 1:59:31 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Onelifetogive
"Of course, it will srart with the "assualt bathubs."'

And those will be the ones with the "pistol grip" soap dishes?

33 posted on 04/23/2004 2:04:24 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"I don’t think everybody has a right to a weapon that can be used to kill innocent people and maybe threaten the life of a president of the United States." - Congressman Henry Waxman May 14, 2001

Shall we start a list of items the CAN be used to kill?
Vehicles
Kitchen knifes
Baseball bats
Bricks
etc...

34 posted on 04/23/2004 2:05:46 PM PDT by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: TexasCowboy
Goodness COB. I just hate to wipe oozing sarcasm off of my monitor! ;-)
35 posted on 04/23/2004 2:10:54 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: SpyGuy
"Yes, I'm sure there were many kids discussing how they were going to go out and spend $10,000 on a .50 cal rifle to shoot up the school."

Every grade school kid I know of has a penny bank with the sign on it:

"For a .50 caliber to shoot that a**hole that broke my red crayon!"

36 posted on 04/23/2004 2:16:07 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: RikaStrom
Yeah, but it's harder to clean up when it's oozing between the keys on the keyboard.
37 posted on 04/23/2004 2:19:31 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Chinese_American_Patriot
'12.7x99 BMG (.50 BMG) is a deadly round that was designed to penetrate tank armor.' Must have been thin tanks.
38 posted on 04/23/2004 3:07:14 PM PDT by xone
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To: thackney
Thanks for letting us know about "Froogle".
39 posted on 04/23/2004 3:08:47 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: xone
"Must have been thin tanks."

Yeah, they were.

The Germans built the first ones during WWI to penetrate British armor.
The British simply added more armor.

The British began using them in WWII to penetrate German armor.
Learning from the British, the Germans simply added more armor.

40 posted on 04/23/2004 3:27:45 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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