Teresa Heinz Abortion Shocker: I Planned to End Pregnancy

NewsMax.com, People ^ | April 30, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

[sine_nomine]

One woman was supposedly pro-life, but she thought handicapped children should be aborted. I am afraid that it is the Hitler syndrome: any undesirables should be eliminated.

[Montfort]

But amnio itself carries a substantial risk of causing a miscarriage.

[Slip18]

No. 1, she didn't have an abortion.

No. 2, 45-year-old women can be in full menopause, and then suddenly be out of it. I was in full menopause at 38 years of age. If I had had sex with someone who had not had a vasectomy, I could have gotten pregnant. I didn't.

So take than to your Lions' Den and suck on it. Just, perhaps, maybe, you might understand that all women are not alike. If I had had a child at 45, I would have bled to death. It's a problem with bleeding.

Pro-choice, my arse.

[NittanyLion]

No. 2, 45-year-old women can be in full menopause, and then suddenly be out of it. I was in full menopause at 38 years of age.

As I mentioned, there are fullproof methods to guarantee no pregnancy will result from intercource.

If I had had sex with someone who had not had a vasectomy, I could have gotten pregnant. I didn't.

See? You just mentioned one.

So take than to your Lions' Den and suck on it. Just, perhaps, maybe, you might understand that all women are not alike. If I had had a child at 45, I would have bled to death. It's a problem with bleeding.

Again, if a woman knows she'd need to abort her child because she is too old to safely become pregnant, what's so difficult about surgically ensuring no pregnancy is possible? It would seem to me that's vastly superior to risking a situation where you must murder a child to prevent the death of the mother. Am I wrong here?

[samadams2000]

This is such a touching story. I see her in a different light now...zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[samadams2000]

The lefts Mother Teresa.

[Triple Word Score]

I know someone whose very religious sister found that her second child was carrying a child with no brain and not even a fully functional brainstem--worse, its metabolism was defective and it was poisoning her--her blood pressure was going sky high, her kidneys and liver were showing signs of stress, and she was throwing up 24/7 in the second trimester. After much prayer and a clear witness that the baby, that there was no possible mistake, had no future the couple agreed with the GYN team that delivery would be induced before permanent damage occured to her. The baby actually died on its own sometime in the hours before the pitocin was started and it was delivered already deceased, so deformed that its organs could not be donated and they were at peace that they had made the only sane decision. But they wanted that baby, they loved it, and they grieved over it and it caused them some great spiritual trouble. It's something that can happen to a pro-life conservative too. I have my opinion about a woman who would use such a thing politically, but I'm not judging her for that.

There are scum who would abort a child for being the wrong sex or having cleft palate. I don't know and don't much want to know if H-K considered this for such trivial reasons or if the reasons were as serious as this Baptist couple I know. I do know that such deeply personal things should be kept out of the political-leverage game. H-K's mouth is a birth defect.

[kinghorse]

That reads a little confusingly. I should have put in quotations. I was speaking as this Teresa Heinz person would when dealing with it in the media. Just some smart.. "Hollywood answer" after which the obedient media would promptly drop all discussion.

[PLK]

Well, it's pretty weird that Laura Bush accidently killed someone with her car, too.

A horrible accident is definitely not something I'd term "weird." Plus, Laura did not debase herself by gushing about her personal tragedies to a magazine interviewer.

A "near-miss" abortion story IS weird. What was the point? And how can it be verified?

[Neenah]

October 31, 2003

'Letters to Gabriel' shares mother's story of life, death

by Jennifer Brinker, Review Staff Writer

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOVING LETTERS - In 'Letters to Gabriel,' Karen Garver Santorum, wife of U. S. Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., shares a series of letters she wrote to her infant son, Gabriel Michael. The child, diagnosed with posterior urethral valve, was born at 20 weeks old and lived for only two hours.

When Karen Garver Santorum began writing letters to her unborn son in 1996, never did she imagine they would become the focus of a book.

Santorum’s son, Gabriel Michael, was born with a fatal defect five months before his due date and lived for two hours. Her 1998 book, "Letters to Gabriel," shares the heartfelt letters Santorum wrote to her son during her pregnancy — and for a year after his birth and death — and how she dealt with the grieving process.

The book also reflects on her husband, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and his fight to ban partial-birth abortion, which was going on at the same time.

The Santorums were in St. Louis earlier this month at the annual archdiocesan Pro-Life Convention, where they delivered a keynote speech. Karen Santorum also took time to speak to the Review about "Letters to Gabriel."

"It was difficult to publish," Santorum said of the book.

She added that it was the encouragement of her parents that led her to publish the letters. "But I really believe God wanted me to do this, and it has been a benefit to so many. We have received thousands of letters."

In the book’s introduction, Santorum wrote, "I offer no theories, no analysis of grief, no simple solutions to human loss and suffering. I offer only this — the story of my son and the sword that pierced my heart." In letters to Gabriel, Santorum shares her joy of finding out she was pregnant with Gabriel Michael, and the heartache when a doctor told her 19 weeks into the pregnancy that the couple’s son would not survive.

"With your sisters and brothers present in the room and without the slightest trace of compassion or emotion, the radiologist studied the screen for a moment and said, ‘Your baby has a fatal defect and is going to die,’" Santorum wrote.

Gabriel Michael had posterior urethral valve, a condition in which a baby is not able to empty the fluid from his or her bladder, because of a valve in the urinary system that is not able to open. Fluid from the bladder empties into the amniotic sac surrounding the baby.

At the same time of her pregnancy, Santorum’s husband was leading the fight to ban partial-birth abortion. In "Letters to Gabriel," Karen Santorum wrote about how she watched the Senate debate on partial-birth abortion during her pregnancy.

Just days before she found out Gabriel Michael had a defect, Karen Santorum recalled how she heard one senator during the debate say, "No member of this Senate can face the trauma that is represented by the issue of late-term abortion."

Later, after Gabriel Michael’s death, Santorum wrote, "Will your Daddy’s arguments be more authentic and believable and persuasive now that he’s ‘been there?’"

Rick Santorum said that a copy of "Letters to Gabriel" was given to every U.S. senator.

"There were two ‘pro-choice’ senators — who are no longer in the Senate — who I know were really touched," by the book, he said. "We really hope it has had an impact."

"Letters to Gabriel" is published by CCC of America and retails for $14.99. It is available at area bookstores

[Neenah]

Source for my post above.

[demkicker]

Interesting. Just a few days ago, Teresa had this to say about abortion:

"My belief - and I maybe am very wrong - is that women, generally speaking, do not want to have abortions," Heinz Kerry said. "With the exception of people who are mindless - and there will always be mindless people of both sexes - most women wouldn't want to," she added.

I remember reading that too. What publication ran that story? It most definitely needs some sunlight and airing again. These people thoroughly disgust me. Their pro abortion base evidently jumped them good for her prior remarks and Teresa is coming out with this story now. I bet you dollars to donuts its a complete lie.

[Don Joe]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/03/10/recharged.ovaries.ap/

[Don Joe]

I worry that before it is over we will be reduced to a nation that actually condones killing anyone who is deformed, mentally, or physically.

We're there.

Ever hear of "Dr. Peter Singer", the "Professor of Bioethics" at Princeton?

The USA has fallen into a timewarp.

We're partying like it's 1939...

[Don Joe]

So what was she doing, celebrating afterwards? Every woman I have ever known to have a miscarriage has flashbacks for the rest of her life.

In any other context,it would be seen as inhuman, e.g., "I don't believe in divorce, but I'm bored with my husband -- he's just become so... inconvenient -- and so, I was thinking of divorcing him. But the day before I was going to file papers on him, he got killed by a drunk driver. Whew!"

There is such a massive logical disconnect surrounding the subject (abortion), that, it's like mass hypnosis.

[hosepipe]

Kill the heirs BEFORE their born.. Then you don't have to share the money.

[Delphinium]

We're partying like it's 1939...

And Christians are feeling nice and secure as they keep too busy playing church to be too alarmed about the 38 million already dead.

[Don Joe]

...the 38 million already dead.

Just a drop in the bucket. The drive now is to advance the cult of death even further. Singer wants to kill them after they're born. And, he's taken seriously, given a prestigious post at an ivy league university, and welcomed in polite society.

We've blown clean through the "handwriting on the wall" stage. We're inside the gates of hell, to coin a phrase.

[O Neill]

Please, O'Neill, Heinz Ketchup has already disavowed any association with the afforementioned Mrs. Heinz-Kerry...

You're undoubtedly correct & there will be no transferrence to Heinz Ketchup.

Still, whenever I rent a car & see the Hertz counter, I still think of O.J. Simpson leaping over chairs at the airport...and, inevitably, rent from Avis, Alamo or Budget...

[Prodigal Daughter]

Thank you for the link. I'll read it tomorrow!