Posted on 05/13/2004 11:48:42 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:21:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Exactly. Nick barely spoke Arabic, why in hell would he be hauling around a Farsi prayer book, unless it was a proof of bona fides between terror contacts?
And an e-mail typed up on a bus wouldn't go out until the computer was reconnected to the Internet somehow, meaning it would have to be retained within memory. Personally, I'd sure as hell want to read any e-mail someone was sending out in my name!
Also, I don't think Nick ever graduated college, didn't have a license to practice engineering and yet he thought he'd get a job in Iraq? Where did he get the money to fly to and from Iraq twice? His "engineering" firm is not listed with the required state offices, according to news reports on FR this morning. Too many questions...
The key is Prometheus. Is it true Nick was getting 11,000 pounds a month? Was planning on a comfy Turkish Riviera sailing vacation shortly?
Berg Sr. was signed off as a principal on Prometheus. We know Prometheus was in Guatemala and other third world countries trying to build a network of left-wing radio stations.
Where was all this travel money coming from??????
If we can find a Soros-ANSWER-Prometheus financial link, BINGO!!! Slam Dunk.
This would also help to explain the unexplained ease with which Nick slid across int'l boundaries, which by all accounts was usually a red-tape nightmare.
I'm thinking the connection is Nick and Mike Berg > ANSWER > George $oros$.
And if his true mission was to make a liason with Al Queda....which his actual actions support....
This would be a bombshell. If Kerry ever lets Mike Berg get near him, he's a total fool. Mike Berg could be a living "smoking gun" connecting the organized Soros backed left to Al Queda.
Not to mention Kerry's own wife, and her $upport of radical leftist organizations!
Yes, it reeks, but the Berg's were sloppy and left too many clues. In the era of Free Republic, we can nail this into a case.
not at all but I assume him working at the Republican National Convention is true (its pretty verifiable) my concern is that you have the son of an ANSWR type who is sharing e-mail addresses with known al-queda members in the United States getting a job working the Republican Convention.
You nailed it. I can't believe Kerry has actually already aligned himself with this Berg guy.
If this is true, why would his father be so quick to dishonor the memory of his son?
Also, if this is true, isn't it also possible that he really was a spy?
Where did their globe-trotting "leftist radio stations for the third world" funding come from?????
A retired teacher named Mike ANSWER Berg? I doubt it.
Maybe he couldn't find a copy of "Catcher in the Rye" at the Baghdad Barnes & Noble. :-)
Wow! Ya'll have really been doing some digging. I'm impressed.
This is the sort of work and thinking that newspaper reporters used to do before they became transcriptionists for the DNC.
bbl
Might be time for some non-fiction. I'll bet you are pretty close to the truth.
I'm seeing Nick as an ANSWER agent. You would try to "sheep dip" him as a staunch Republican wherever possible. You would register him to vote Republican, etc. The easy superficial Republican bona fides, which will satisfy the leftist morons in our media.
Dig deeper, examine Prometheus. Stack up all the bizarre coincidences from the Mousawi password, to the Iraqi uncle in Mosul email help, the Farsi prayer book.....
The "my son was pro-Bush and pro-war" is just Mike Sr. sticking to their cover story.
It's no wonder I'm not working on "Domestic Enemies!" Today, truth is stranger (and more interesing) than fiction!
What about with a satellite connection?
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=7391
BREAKING NEWS: Nicholas Berg: The Dots Do Not Connect
Posted by Ira Simmons
Friday, May 14, 2004
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Nicholas Berg: The Dots Do Not Connect
First off, I'll get the obligatory stuff out of the way: the videotaped beheading of 26-year-old American Nicholas Berg, now believed to have been done by al-Qaida linked terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is truly horrifying and an outrage. It confirms that we must continue to fight the War On Terror using maximum force in any place necessary to ensure that these refugees from the Middle Ages are totally defeated.
Certainly Nicholas Berg is as innocent a victim of extreme Muslim atrocities as the 3,000 Americans killed on September 11, 2001, or the victims from the March 11, 2004, Madrid train bombings. But there are many questions about Berg's fateful visit to Iraq which do not square with information given by his family or the U.S. Coalition story of what exactly happened and why he was detained.
First, what has been given as Berg's college background and how he came to run a one-man communications firm seems a little strange if not outright preposterous. It was reported that Nick Berg attended four different colleges: the last was the University of Oklahoma where it is claimed he learned to install radio towers. But Berg never received a college diploma. Media reports said his one-man company was called Prometheus Methods Tower Service Inc. Reality check: it is virtually impossible to obtain such technical work as installing radio towers without a Professional Engineering license, let alone not having a college degree!
The first reports of his life story said that Berg supported President Bush in the War on Terror and helped install communications equipment at the 2000 Republican convention in Philadelphia. But his father, Michael Berg, is a member of the off-the-charts anti-war group International ANSWER (''Act Now, Stop the War, and End Racism.'') While children occasionally do not share the politics of their parents (I didn't), you have to wonder if telling the media that his kid was a Republican was something of a ruse to direct attention from Michael Berg's (and his son's) true politics.
Then there are the two 2004 trips to Iraq. While most contractors travel directly to Baghdad, Nicholas Berg instead landed in Jordan and found his way by land into Iraq. If indeed Berg was a one-man contractor installing radio towers, it would seem difficult to get any work in Iraq without (a) initially consummating commitments while still in the United States, and (b) having a link to a larger construction company such as Bechtel or (dirty word alert) Halliburton! As yet no radio towers that Nicholas Berg may have built while in Iraq on either trip have been identified.
We know that Nick Berg was bouncing around Iraq until he was detained either by Iraqi police or the U.S. Military in Mosul on March 24. I'll give his dad the benefit of the doubt here: Nicholas was definitely being detained by the coalition for any of the following suspicions:
a) He was loaded with electronics equipment, supposedly for his work on radio communications towers. Possessing sophisticated electronic gear in a war zone without producing any paperwork to prove that he is building radio towers probably set off alarm bells.
b) It was likely that Berg was on an FBI ''watch'' list. FBI agents interviewed Berg a few years ago when they were investigating the September 11 terrorist attacks because, unbeknownst to him, Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, had used his e-mail account when both were in Oklahoma. On Thursday Fox News reported that the FBI dismissed the link between Berg and Moussaoui as ''coincidental.''
c) Speaking on condition of anonymity in one media report, a U.S. official said Iraqi authorities detained Berg ''for his own protection'' because his behavior in Mosul seemed unusual for a Westerner. Plus Berg, who was Jewish, had in his possession texts that were considered ''anti-Semitic'' in tone. One of his friends has been quoted as saying that the Iraqi police thought Berg was an Israeli spy. To add insult to injury, Berg was also carrying some literature written in Farsi including a book about Iran.
d) On April 10, after he was released, Berg visited an Iraqi man who was once married to his aunt. Question: did his former uncle have political ties that caused any suspicions for the coalition?
e) Because he belongs to a far-left peace group and was known to authorities, Nicholas Berg's father likely raised a red flag and was a possible reason that the FBI visited the family in suburban Philadelphia at least three times during the 13 days that Berg was detained.
On April 5, Michael Berg filed a lawsuit alleging that his son was being held illegally in Iraq. Either Iraqi police or coalition authorities released Nicholas Berg the following day. From both his e-mails and interviews with friends, we know that Berg was moving around Iraq through April 10. It is unclear what happened next. On Wednesday, State Department spokeswoman Kelly Shannon claimed that the U.S. consular extended an offer to assist Berg to depart Iraq by plane to Jordan. But according to his dad, Berg refused, believing that flying out of Baghdad airport was too dangerous and instead he wanted to try driving to Kuwait. In another published report, a friend said Berg wanted to leave by riding through Jordan. Driving in Jordan or to Kuwait when offered a plane ticket home makes no sense: since the fall of Saddam, Baghdad Airport, heavily guarded by coalition forces, is probably as safe as any place in Iraq.
Between April 10 and May 8, when his decapitated body was found hanging from an overpass in Baghdad, Nicholas Berg's whereabouts are unknown. In the rambling speech seen on the grizzly video just before he was decapitated, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi indicated that he could have traded Berg for hostages being held by the coalition. If true, and believing a terrorist is always a stretch, one question arises among many: why was there no announcement through Al Jazeera, similar to other hostages, that Berg was being held?
To be sure, Nicholas Berg's brutal murder is a great tragedy that has much of the nation and the civilized world outraged. Ironically, Berg's death may do what his old man doesn't want: galvanize American resolve to win the War on Terror! Perhaps amidst the haze of statements from government officials and from a father who may have a hidden political agenda, maybe we can eventually get the real story of the curious life and tragic death of Nicholas Berg.
"And if they were on a bus, how did this guy end up accessing his e-mail?"
Lap-top perhaps?
Triple; Travis McGee
Carnivore never gets to intercept the email - because it is never sent.
Factors to consider:
Multiple logins
Geographically diverse locations
Insufficient time for a single user to travel from Location A to Location B
Carnivore might trigger on all three criteria being satisfied. Raise "might" to "would" if the email address was already under suspicion.
Remember, the information is still traveling over a network to get to and from the webmail server.
If you really want to beat Carnivore, send email--but never forward it from the same account. For example, an email is sent to Account A, with encryption. Reader A downloads email at a Starbucks or a Schlotsky's Deli via Wi-Fi, then disconnects. Email is decrypted and read.
Most of the email is padding--i.e., bulk intended to disguise the true length of the message. The actual message is cut-and-pasted into a new email, with different padding, encrypted with a different algorithm, and sent from a Account B.
The guy with the laptop then walks around with a Wi-Fi-equipped PDA, looking for an unsecured Wi-Fi network (which are legion--and usually unauthorized by the company hosting them).
He then boots up his computer, logs into the network, and sends the email from Account B.
Carnivore will have a very hard time connecting the two events, because they don't share a common IP address, email account, or message content.
76 posted on 05/14/2004 8:46:32 AM PDT by Poohbah (Four thousand throats may be cut in a single night by a running man -- Kahless the Unforgettable)
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I cannot imagine another father giving a pass like this to his sons killers, nothing in this situation adds up!
Isn't that the truth? The only person I had passwords for was my deceased daughter's email and that was because she was so ill that she wanted me to answer her mail for her. There are things going on with this case that are not being told. We may never know exactly what happened.
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