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Kerry turns tables on Bush in Pennsylvania Poll
AP ^ | 5-27-04 | Peter Jackson

Posted on 05/30/2004 7:14:23 AM PDT by grumblibear

A Quinnipiac University, CT poll released on Thursday, May 27, shows that Kerry has reversed his standings vis-a-vis George Bush, and pulled even with statistically as the choice of Pennsylvania voters.

Whereas an April poll showed Bush leading Kerry by 45 to 39 percentage points, the May poll shows Kerry pulling even with Bush at 44 to 41 percentage points.

Bush lost the state of Pennsylvania in the 2000 election, as well.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; battleground; bush; kerry; polls; quinnipiac; swingstates
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1 posted on 05/30/2004 7:14:24 AM PDT by grumblibear
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To: grumblibear

"Bush also lost the state of Pennsylvania in 2000 as well."


How could Bush possible win if 110% of voters in certain precincts voted for Gore?


2 posted on 05/30/2004 7:19:36 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: grumblibear
A Quinnipiac University, CT poll released on Thursday, May 27, shows that Kerry has reversed his standings vis-a-vis George Bush, and pulled even with statistically as the choice of Pennsylvania voters.

I defy anyone to diagram that sentence and explain what it means.

3 posted on 05/30/2004 7:22:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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How could Bush possible win if 110% of voters in certain precincts voted for Gore?

That never happened. This little nugget has been debunked about 500 times on FR.
4 posted on 05/30/2004 7:24:21 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A Quinnipiac University, CT poll released on Thursday, May 27, shows that Kerry has reversed his standings vis-a-vis George Bush, and [has] pulled even with [him] statistically as the choice of Pennsylvania voters.


5 posted on 05/30/2004 7:31:14 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: grumblibear

Ok, Bush was leading 45 to 39. He now leads Kerry 44 to 41. And this is reversing the standings how?


6 posted on 05/30/2004 7:36:10 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: Paul_B

Thank you for editing it.


7 posted on 05/30/2004 7:36:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: grumblibear
A Quinnipiac University...

Quinnipiac University always seem very liberally slanted.

Is there a website anywhere that examines polls for their accuracy based on post election results, so that you know how much of a fudge factor each pollster adds for their guy?

If there isn't, there should be.

8 posted on 05/30/2004 7:41:31 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: fhayek

Went back to the source and read the article. Kerry is at 44 to Bush's 41. Its a poll of 701 registered voters. Take it for what its worth.


9 posted on 05/30/2004 7:43:26 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: grumblibear
41% is a bad number for an incumbent. His job approval is also 41% in PA in this poll. However, he is still within striking distance because Kerry's support is so weak as well.

If the worst of the Iraq news is behind us, and the economy keeps humming, W still has a shot at PA in November.

10 posted on 05/30/2004 7:49:08 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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"Ok, Bush was leading 45 to 39. He now leads Kerry 44 to 41. And this is reversing the standings how?"
Well, this is new liberal math, ya know...
11 posted on 05/30/2004 8:03:52 AM PDT by Toidylop
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"How could Bush possible win if 110% of voters in certain precincts voted for Gore?

That never happened. This little nugget has been debunked about 500 times on FR."

Yeah, well, don't forget that, magically, 90% of eligible voters turned out in Philadelphia - and went 95% for Gore....


12 posted on 05/30/2004 8:11:39 AM PDT by Al Simmons (Proud BushBot since '94!)
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To: fhayek
Ok, Bush was leading 45 to 39. He now leads Kerry 44 to 41. And this is reversing the standings how?

That has to be one of the most blatant liberal spins put on poll results I have seen in quite some time. Thats a laughable headline for those results. Somebody needs to fire that "journalist".
13 posted on 05/30/2004 8:30:54 AM PDT by GROOVY
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To: fhayek

I love how these pollsters have so much faith in their numbers. It is all noise and they sell it as fact. What a joke. BUSH 2004 Because we must!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


14 posted on 05/30/2004 9:40:30 AM PDT by Bombard
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To: grumblibear

Just a reminder of how to read ratspeak.
In ratspeak if the Republican is ahead of the rat by 4 or less points, its too close to call. If the rat is ahead by a quarter of a point, he is pulling away. If a rat is up anything from 1/2 point to 4 points he is pulling away and the race is over.
ratspeak is a predictable as stories aboout a politician getting arrested. When the guy's party is only mentioned on the jump page, you don't have to look. When it's a Republican the guy's party is mentioned in the headline.
But none of us notice this because after all, we're conservatives and conservatives are not too bright anyway. Just ask any rat professor in a big liberal factory school, he'll tell you.


15 posted on 05/30/2004 9:59:57 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Jalapeno

Read it again, Hayek. Kerry leads Bush by 3%, 44% to 41%.

Statistically, this may be interpreted as so close as to be "even", given the margin of error typical of most polls.

Please let me know if you need further explanation.


16 posted on 05/30/2004 10:44:58 AM PDT by grumblibear
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To: fhayek
Sorry, I seem to have left out a key word, "Bush", as in "...has pulled even with Bush statistically...". Does that help you?
17 posted on 05/30/2004 10:47:41 AM PDT by grumblibear
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The sentence was written by a giddy college graduate, who can't take criticism, who was deleriously happy at the news that a Bush 44-Kerry 41 lead is 'turning the tables.'


18 posted on 05/30/2004 10:49:41 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: grumblibear

Forget about poll sfor a few months....just for the fun of it.


19 posted on 05/30/2004 11:05:55 AM PDT by Consort
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Again, the original post and the linked story clearly indicate that Kerry is leading Bush, 44 to 41, in Pennsylvania.

I don't see why you have to stoop to childish insults, such as describing the author as a "giddy college graduate" who is "delerious". But then you can't seem to get your facts straight about the poll figures, so perhaps your opinion isn't much more valuable than your reading comprehension?


20 posted on 05/30/2004 2:24:10 PM PDT by grumblibear
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