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A Home for a Gay Channel (MTV caught off guard by hostile reactions to gay channel)
The New York Times ^ | May 30, 2004 | BILL CARTER

Posted on 06/07/2004 7:41:49 PM PDT by Cracker72

A Home for a Gay Channel By BILL CARTER

Published: May 30, 2004

EXECUTIVES of MTV Networks seemed to be caught a bit off guard by the hostile reaction to their announcement last week that they intend to create the first cable entertainment channel devoted to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender viewers, called Logo.

Religious groups, including the Traditional Values Coalition, denounced the idea as amounting to "moral anarchy" and promised to organize a boycott of companies that advertise on the channel.

But the executives behind the project remain convinced that MTV Networks will be able to overcome any impediments. After all, as the cable arm of Viacom Inc., it runs the most popular and powerful set of cable channels in the business - everything from Nickelodeon to Comedy Central, VH-1 and MTV itself.

MTV Networks is the only cable group with both the cultural position and, more importantly, the clout in the industry to launch a channel with so many enemies. Only a large media conglomerate has the leverage to get that type of programming distributed widely.

Judy McGrath, the group president of MTV Networks, said that within days of the announcement she was holding talks with cable system owners like Time Warner and Comcast about carrying the channel, not as part of their basic package but as part of their so-called digital tier. At the same time, she said, numerous companies had already contacted MTV about sponsoring the channel.

Logo is scheduled to begin operation in February. Very little programming has been announced, only a roster of movies, like "The Birdcage" and "Gods and Monsters." Ms. McGrath said that despite charges that the programming would be immoral and anti-family, the content would be "everyday basic cable television fare."


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1 posted on 06/07/2004 7:41:50 PM PDT by Cracker72
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To: Cracker72

Bravo is already the gay channel


2 posted on 06/07/2004 7:43:09 PM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: Cracker72

MTV itself is pretty much this kind of a channel anyway.


3 posted on 06/07/2004 7:43:51 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cracker72
EXECUTIVES of MTV Networks seemed to be caught a bit off guard by the hostile reaction to their announcement last week that they intend to create the first cable entertainment channel devoted to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender viewers, called Logo.

Are they really that stupid?

4 posted on 06/07/2004 7:44:23 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: Cracker72

They were "caught off guard" by the reaction?

Do these guys ever get out of their ivory towers and talk to the regular folks?


5 posted on 06/07/2004 7:46:03 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Cracker72

Could somebody tell me if the actor who played Robin William's drag queen character's ex-wife a man or a real woman?


6 posted on 06/07/2004 7:47:01 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Cracker72

They forget Questioning and Intersexual.


7 posted on 06/07/2004 7:50:49 PM PDT by zahal724
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To: Cracker72

Air America Syndrome


8 posted on 06/07/2004 7:52:10 PM PDT by antaresequity (This is not the "War on Terror"...Islam is the common denominator.)
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To: Cracker72
MTV just found out that there indoctrination plan is running a year or two behind schedule.

They'll program accordingly.

9 posted on 06/07/2004 7:53:06 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Cracker72
the executives behind the project remain convinced that MTV Networks will be able to overcome any impediments

I'm all for proving them wrong.

10 posted on 06/07/2004 8:00:38 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Cracker72

The New York Times is the nation's premiere gay newspaper.


11 posted on 06/07/2004 8:01:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AngieGOP
Bravo is already the gay channel

There's still some watchable programming on Bravo. Less, with their current fetish with "The West Wing".

Also OD'ing on gayness are TLC and Discovery. Other than the occasional "Myth Busters", I no longer watch either of those channels.

MTV must be suffering from too much incest. Like the story of Dutch's election in 1980, "I don't know anyone that voted for him".

I stopped watching MTV eons ago. Besides, it is a Viacom property. I'm not in their demographic - they don't
provide worthwhile entertainment or honest news, I don't contribute to their bottom line.

12 posted on 06/07/2004 8:01:21 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Another article about the all homo-all the time channel.

Two motives - money, but primarily indoctrination. The homosexual indoctrinators can't sleep at night because some people still don't celebrate the "gay/lesbian/transsexual/pansexual/bisexual" life.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this ping list.


13 posted on 06/07/2004 8:01:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Take Back The Rainbow! Take back the word "GAY"!)
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To: Cracker72; Barnacle; little jeremiah; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Sabertooth; Salem; dennisw; ...

"A Home for a Gay Channel (MTV caught off guard by hostile reactions to gay channel)"

God to Sodom and Gomorrah: I APOLOGIZE!

14 posted on 06/07/2004 8:07:42 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Cracker72
A Home for a Gay Channel

Are they talking about the same "Gay Channel" that is the cause of the AIDS epidemic?

15 posted on 06/07/2004 8:09:59 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: AngieGOP

I like Law & Order, and I saw a John Wayne movie on there the a couple of weeks ago.


16 posted on 06/07/2004 8:14:00 PM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: Calvin Locke

I like to watch American Chopper on discovery.


17 posted on 06/07/2004 8:15:21 PM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: Calvin Locke
Other than the occasional "Myth Busters"..

Hey, I thought those guys where gay.

18 posted on 06/07/2004 8:16:38 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Republican Wildcat

I must be getting VERY OLD. I actually remember when MTV showed music videos.

(And Beavis and Butthead.)


19 posted on 06/07/2004 8:18:08 PM PDT by RightWingNut
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To: gilliam

That deer in the headlight look isn't very convincing. They want to look like the innocent party but feed off the controversy for the publicity.


20 posted on 06/07/2004 8:20:50 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: gilliam

Just inform them that you don't want to have a cat that barks; it doesn't fit.


21 posted on 06/07/2004 8:22:17 PM PDT by conway
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To: Happy2BMe
God to Sodom and Gomorrah: I APOLOGIZE!

I don't think God has to apologize for anything.

Nor do I think he would compare 1 out of 100's of channels being "gay" to Sodom and Gomorrah which were completely given over to decadent behavior.

Remember Lot asked God to spare Sodom if He could find just a few righteous men. God couldn't find them.

No comparison to the USA.

22 posted on 06/07/2004 8:22:42 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Cracker72

What network ISN'T a shill for the gay lobby? This is not news. News would be a "Straight Channel".


23 posted on 06/07/2004 8:23:51 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Calvin Locke

Didn't MTV used to play rock videos? I have this vague memory of an old Dire Straits song...


24 posted on 06/07/2004 8:24:58 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: Jorge
"No comparison to USA."

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25 posted on 06/07/2004 8:25:01 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Cracker72
MTV Networks is the only cable group with both the cultural position and, more importantly, the clout in the industry to launch a channel with so many enemies.

And why, pray tell, would any company interested in making money "launch a channel with so many enemies?"

Shades of Err America!

26 posted on 06/07/2004 8:27:09 PM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: Old Professer

You mean in the Bird Cage? Nathan Lane played Robin Williams' "Wife" in that movie.


27 posted on 06/07/2004 8:29:16 PM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: little jeremiah

Two motives - money, but primarily indoctrination.

Since they comprise 2% of the population, it has to be indoctrination and recruitment.

I'll be joining the boycott. I think alot of Americans are tired of having their values smeared in their face.


28 posted on 06/07/2004 8:29:51 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: gilliam

"Are they really that stupid?" True, such a clear example of one's passion leading to a really bad business decision.


29 posted on 06/07/2004 8:31:07 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Happy2BMe
"No comparison to USA."

Ooops!

No need to apologize. I know that no good Republican who loves the USA would smear the entire country because the activities of a small minority.

30 posted on 06/07/2004 8:31:35 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Military family member

I mean the tall, ugly blonde "woman" that was supposed to be the mother of Williams' son.


31 posted on 06/07/2004 8:49:38 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Jorge

Are you a professional apologist for evil in America or just an amateur one?


32 posted on 06/07/2004 8:53:51 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Old Professer

Nathan Lang is a (hmmmm) man...


33 posted on 06/07/2004 8:54:11 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Cracker72

You know what would be cool? A channel that plays nothing but music videos. Maybe MTV could work on something like that.


34 posted on 06/07/2004 8:57:16 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: megatherium
Didn't MTV used to play rock videos? I have this vague memory of an old Dire Straits song...

Video Killed the Radio Star

...we can't rewind, we've gone too far....

Okay, I'm showing my age, but I remember watching this video on the "new" music tv channel.

35 posted on 06/07/2004 8:59:51 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Now... There you go again!)
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To: BearWash
Are you a professional apologist for evil in America or just an amateur one?

Where did I apologize for evil in America?

Show me the quote.

Unlike you I just don't enjoy hearing demagogue's smearing ALL Americans over the actions of a few.

36 posted on 06/07/2004 9:02:21 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: megatherium

That is the first thing I think of when I see the letters MTV. They played that video over and over and over and over and over again! It was pretty cool the first time.

Looks like the sodomites have taken over the network.


37 posted on 06/07/2004 9:03:58 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Cracker72
EXECUTIVES of MTV Networks...

Correction... Should read:

SCUM of MTV Networks...

38 posted on 06/07/2004 9:16:46 PM PDT by Barnacle (Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.)
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To: Old Professer

Christine Baranski ia Vals mom Robins Williams 1st wife..


39 posted on 06/07/2004 9:21:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Last Dakotan
Hey, I thought those guys where gay.

Probably. Actually, I find the banter off-kilter.

But seeing them try to clean up a Corvette that they stored in a shipping container for two months - with dead pigs in the seats?

40 posted on 06/07/2004 9:23:14 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: megatherium
I have this vague memory of an old Dire Straits song...

I think it was by The Buggles: MTV killed the Video Star.

41 posted on 06/07/2004 9:24:28 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Cracker72
How many times is MTV-Viacommie going to "announce" this channel?

I don't complain because this story has been posted for many months, I complain because it is still "news" to the New York press.

Just like the "news" of Herr America's launch. The NEWS of Err America's failure does not make headlines to much of the liberal establishment.

Gay-cable will be subsidized by all viewers whether or not they watch the channel (their cable/satellite bill will still go in part to Viacom).

42 posted on 06/07/2004 9:38:45 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: gilliam
Your question is rhetorical, I trust?
43 posted on 06/07/2004 9:39:47 PM PDT by SAJ (Buy 2 NGG05 9.00 calls, Sell 5 NGG05 12.00 calls against, for $1.000 net credit OB. Mortal lock.)
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To: Cracker72
Ms. McGrath said that despite charges that the programming would be immoral and anti-family, the content would be "everyday basic cable television fare."

Note to NYSlimes: those two statements are not exclusionary. They BOTH can be true.

44 posted on 06/07/2004 9:41:10 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: megatherium

"He got the action, he got the motion - oh yeah..."


45 posted on 06/07/2004 9:45:07 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle.")
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To: IronJack
Speaking of impediments...

Will reruns of the Michael Jackson trial from Court TV be airing on MTV, Logo, or Nickelodeon?

LOGO-TV: Putting the "TV" on TeleVision.

46 posted on 06/07/2004 9:46:43 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: megatherium
They want to look like the innocent party but feed off the controversy for the publicity.

Bingo. They've been talking about this since "Queer Eye..." got the media push and fag hag television schedulers saw the backlash.

This comes as NO surprise. It is merely another press release.

47 posted on 06/07/2004 9:49:45 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Cracker72; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ..

Ping.


48 posted on 06/07/2004 9:50:26 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Jorge
Nor do I think he would compare 1 out of 100's of channels being "gay" to Sodom and Gomorrah which were completely given over to decadent behavior.

No comparison to the USA.

Try to keep up with all of the homosexual agenda threads. It is one story of many:

Sexual Freedom Activists Target 'Archaic, Unjust' Sex Laws

In addition, the project will examine laws against public lewdness, "which are routinely misused to persecute and prosecute people who participate in non-traditional forms of sexual expression."

"I've seen firsthand how the misuse of these [public lewdness] laws has ruined the lives of gay and bisexual men," said Matt Foreman, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Cracking down on men who have anonymous sex in parks is now "persecution".

49 posted on 06/07/2004 9:53:36 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Happy2BMe; devolve; MeekOneGOP
I wonder who the advertisers would be?
50 posted on 06/07/2004 9:54:30 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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