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Supreme Court Strikes Down Anti-Porn Law
Washington Update email | 29 June 2004 | Tony Perkins

Posted on 06/29/2004 3:38:59 PM PDT by dixie sass

Supreme Court Strikes Down Anti-Porn Law

By a 5-4 decision today, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Child Online Protection Act, which was signed into law in 1998 as an attempt to shield children from online pornography. At the link below you can read the amicus brief we filed in this case, asking the Court to uphold the law. This decision is yet another victory at the High Court for pornographers, at the expense of America's children. Just one year ago the Supreme Court upheld the Children's Internet Protection Act because they realized the dangers in allowing children to be exposed to pornography in our nation's libraries. That danger is no less just because a child is sitting at home. Companies that make their profits peddling pornography should not have the luxury of exposing their filth to every child who may stumble onto their website.

With spam emails and pop-up ads littering the internet, it is easy to see how a child could unwittingly end up on a pornographic web site. It is not too much to ask that web users who want to access commercial pornographic content prove they are adults. And it is especially troubling that Justice Clarence Thomas was on the wrong side of this decision. However, as this battle continues on, we will be there to make sure that pornography companies are not elevated to a status higher than America's children. This law does not impede the decisions of adults who seek to view pornographic material. It merely recognizes what's common sense: we should concentrate on making it difficult for children to access porn rather than making it easier. Media Note: FRC Senior Legal Advisor Pat Trueman will appear tonight on CBS's "Evening News w/ Dan Rather," FOX's "The O'Reilly Factor," as well as on your local NBC and COX-owned stations. To stay up-to-date with our media appearances, visit us on the web at www.frc.org.

Additional Resources Ashcroft v. ACLU -- Amicus Brief http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=CB03L02&f=WU04F24&t=e


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: antipornlaw; children; internetporn; justicethomas
I am all for the first amendment right of free speech, but sometimes you have to draw the line at what is decent and is just plain filth.
1 posted on 06/29/2004 3:39:00 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: dixie sass
prove they are adults.

how do you do that online?

2 posted on 06/29/2004 3:43:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: dixie sass

Smutty words are speech, but pictures? Not in my opinion. That's like saying you can't require people to wear clothes in public because of free speech. I mean...just because the nudity is on paper and words can sometimes be on paper (or computer monitors), doesn't make nudity on paper (or screens) speech. That's an invalid argument. Why do we have such a stupid Supreme Court?


3 posted on 06/29/2004 3:46:35 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Graybeard58

credit card

we only let our grandchildren use the computer while we are sitting next to them.


4 posted on 06/29/2004 3:46:53 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Jim Robinson; Bob J; diotima; Nick Danger; Interesting Times; Libertina; MinuteGal; NautiNurse; ...

pass it on.


5 posted on 06/29/2004 3:47:20 PM PDT by dixie sass ( Claws are sharp and ready for use!)
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To: Graybeard58

I wish that I knew.


6 posted on 06/29/2004 3:48:31 PM PDT by dixie sass ( Claws are sharp and ready for use!)
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To: cajun-jack
we only let our grandchildren use the computer while we are sitting next to them.

That would work.

Credit cards would just prove that a kid got hold of someones credit card.

Glad I don't have any young ones anymore.

I have young grand kids but they aren't allowed to use my comp.

They can go home and let their parents watch them on the comp.

7 posted on 06/29/2004 3:51:18 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: dixie sass

Maybe its just me but I always considered "free speech" to mean the right to criticise the Goverment, for example.

Somehow I don't think pictures of people having sex is quite what the Founding Fathers had in mind.


8 posted on 06/29/2004 3:56:40 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs ("Making Al Gore regret inventing the internet, one post at a time")
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To: dixie sass; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; ...

I heard this during RUSH today at work there were a whole shop full of fathers and mothers that are very UNHAPPY campers.

It wasnt a pretty sight but it made me feel good they felt that way about it !


9 posted on 06/29/2004 3:56:57 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("In America, our origins matter less than our destinations, and that is what democracy is all about")
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To: Graybeard58

true enough...but 2 of ours live next door and have all their life...they think they are home when they are over here!!

But we bought them a subscription to "toontown" and some other fun and educational kids sites....some of the games are really quite fun (so i have heard, not that i would know personally) lol


10 posted on 06/29/2004 3:58:22 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: dixie sass

Another Clinton Law stuck down by the Supreme Court.


11 posted on 06/29/2004 4:00:50 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson

This is one law that should have stayed in effect. I have no desire to read or view porn and neither do most people that I know.


12 posted on 06/29/2004 4:18:23 PM PDT by dixie sass ( Claws are sharp and ready for use!)
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To: dixie sass
So how does this match up with the Courts ruling on Campaign Finance Reform (the central point of the free speech clause of the First Amendment)?
13 posted on 06/29/2004 4:36:12 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Graybeard58
There is all manner of ways to view hardcore porn on the net without a credit card.

Anyone here familiar with "The Hun?"

I don't understand what was the reasoning behind this decision... Isn't a public library, in which a user can view porn, put into the position of actually sponsoring porn, as are the taxpayers who support that library?

Thankfully, there are some rather sophisticated filtering programs out there.

The net isn't any safer than any other highway, and parents have to be responsible for where they allow their children to play...

14 posted on 06/29/2004 4:55:27 PM PDT by Prospero (Ad Astra!)
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To: dixie sass

The problem is not just MY child veiwing porn, it's the neighbor child. Like violence on tv, MY child becomes victim of someone else's problem.


15 posted on 06/29/2004 5:02:39 PM PDT by eccentric (aka baldwidow)
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To: dixie sass

It's time to fire the entire Supreme Court and ammend the Constitution to impose term limits on the "Justices'" tenures. Attorneys are self serving and corrupt by nature and should never be given such resposibility and absolute power.


16 posted on 06/29/2004 5:07:05 PM PDT by Birdsbane
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To: dixie sass
I am all for the first amendment right of free speech, but sometimes you have to draw the line at what is decent and is just plain filth.

I'm thinking that it shouldn't be an issue of "free speech."

No one is telling these pornographers that they can't sell, "express", ect...their filth. Just not to kids. That's why they call it "adult language," "adult behavior."

Just as a liquor store owner can't sell to minors, he can control who he sells to. The porno pirates don't care, they can't regulate just who looks at their trash online. As long as it gets seen.

Sick.

17 posted on 06/29/2004 5:29:43 PM PDT by kstewskis ("kstewskis has the best desktop and screensaver in cyberspace..." Mel Gibson)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 06/29/2004 7:21:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: kstewskis
No one is telling these pornographers that they can't sell, "express", ect...their filth. Just not to kids. That's why they call it "adult language," "adult behavior."

The question the Supreme Court is kicking down to lower courts is whether practical means exist by which pornographers can ensure that their works are not sent to children without having to withhold them from adults as well.

From a practical standpoint, I don't really know what can be accomplished legislatively, since offshore companies can still send in whatever they want.

19 posted on 06/29/2004 10:03:14 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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I think the supremes have a point -- why should the Internet be stripped down the the level of a kindergarten?

Many of the news articles try to make this out to be about obscene material and child porn, but such material is already prohibited in any form by federal law.

The COPA act that the Supreme court struck down today was about restricting access to material that is protected by the first amendment. COPA was all about putting additional restrictions on protected speech.

The Internet is an adult medium, just like Playboy is an adult medium, just like the New England Journal of Medicine is for adults, or Mein Kampf, or Free Republic. There's some really good non-porn articles and other content in Playboy, but do you let your children read Playboy? (Personally, I'd be more concerned if you let your kids read NEJM).

Do you give your kids Playboy? Then why given them the Internet?

20 posted on 06/29/2004 11:35:28 PM PDT by Nonesuch (Personally, I just photocopy and crop the Gahan Wilson cartoons.)
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