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Fury at anarchist convention threat
New York Daily News ^ | 7/11/04 | PATRICE O'SHAUGHNESSY

Posted on 07/12/2004 3:59:33 AM PDT by kattracks

Fringe elements are hoping to spark major disruptions at the Republican National Convention with a series of sneaky tricks - including fooling bomb-sniffing dogs on trains bound for Penn Station, the Daily News has learned.

Internet-using anarchists are telling would-be troublemakers to decoy specially trained Labrador retrievers with gunpowder or ammonium nitrate-laced tablets in a bid to halt trains or even spur the evacuation of Madison Square Garden.

Top cops are girding against the attempt to foil strong anti-terrorist strategies aimed at protecting conventiongoers - including President Bush - as well as peaceful protesters during the Aug. 30 to Sept. 2 GOP fete.

"Where is the legitimate protest in trying to endanger the public?" an angry ­Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly told The News.

"It is the height of irresponsibility," he added. "These hard-core groups are looking to take us on. ... They have increased their level of sophistication and violence."

So in addition to guarding against the most vile, organized and destructive of terrorists, Kelly and company have to combat a shadowy, loose-knit band of traveling troublemakers who spread their guides to disruption over the Internet.

The dog decoy ploy is the among most insidious in the fringe groups' bag of tricks - which includes throwing marbles under the hooves of police horses and using slingshots to pelt the animals.

"They're trying to use up our resources with false alarms. ... The sensitive dogs would become burned out with too many alerts," said a police source.

Preliminary plans call for state and city cops with the dogs and hand-held chemical detection devices to board commuter and subway trains one stop before they reach Penn Station, under the Garden.

The trains will be swept for suspicious packages and terror suspects before being allowed to continue into the station - the country's busiest, with about 600,000 passengers on a regular workday.

"We're going to make certain there is absolutely no disruption of the train," Kelly said in announcing the procedures on April 28.

Two days later, an Internet posting detailed how to stoke disorder by miscuing the bomb dogs.

The posting instructed people to "go to a rifle, pistol or skeet shooting range, spend an hour shooting to saturate clothing with smell of gunpowder, go directly to a New Jersey Transit, LIRR or subway train headed for Penn Station.

"Try to have at least two people on a train in different locations, sit or stand near the doors as the train approaches the station, try to get near police and dogs, loiter as long as possible around the dog, try to pet it if possible.

"If the dog alerts on your scent, do not leave or resist; the situation will cause a major disruption of the train schedule. ... If there is more than one person on the train that causes a dog to alert, you can bet that the train will not be going anywhere for a long time ... neither will any trains behind it."

The message instructs to "Play dumb for as long as possible" before telling the police you unwittingly got the gunpowder on your clothes at a shooting range. "It is important that the police call in all possible resources to investigate the situation. ... With any luck, Madison Square Garden will be evacuated."

"Rush hours are ideal, the final night of the convention, very good, too," the posting said.

After being alerted to the gunpowder posting, investigators uncovered Internet mentions of dispersing traces of ammonium nitrate on the trains.

Ammonium nitrate is one of the most common farm fertilizers in the world. The dogs are trained to detect the fertilizer because it has been used in major bombings, from the 1993 World Trade Center attack to Oklahoma City to Bali, Indonesia.

The NYPD also is preparing for possible "Black Bloc" tactics by small groups of anarchists, in which demonstrators wear black clothing and bandannas over their faces - and wield pipes, bottles and commit acts of vandalism against corporate "enemies" such as the Gap, Starbucks and McDonald's.

Cops have been trained to isolate violent individuals among peaceful protesters, and will employ an 1845 law that prohibits people from wearing masks in street gatherings, except for masquerades.

The NYPD has sent cops to Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Miami, sites of previous political conventions, and to Boston, which will host the Democratic convention this month, to collect intelligence.

"There is the same hard-core element that we have seen move from city to city where violence has marred protests," another police source said.

Trail of global mayhemHere's a look at major events in recent years that were disrupted:



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I find it very telling that there are no similar plans from this group of "fringe elements" for the Dem convention.
1 posted on 07/12/2004 3:59:34 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; Honestly; thecabal

This is a must read, more terrorists at work.


2 posted on 07/12/2004 4:04:57 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (A Google search for: communist manifesto 1963 & muslim manifesto 1990, Will show todays laws in them)
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To: kattracks
I find it very telling that there are no similar plans from this group of "fringe elements" for the Dem convention.

That because they will be the convention....
3 posted on 07/12/2004 4:05:45 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: kattracks

File this story under: The mystery of iniquity. We ought to send the bill to their parents for any damages their Me-ocratic tantrums cause.


4 posted on 07/12/2004 4:05:48 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: kattracks

Hats,bats and horses bump.Club em all,let triage sort em out.


5 posted on 07/12/2004 4:11:07 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: kattracks

The sewer 'Rats are heading home...


6 posted on 07/12/2004 4:12:54 AM PDT by pageonetoo (Rights, what Rights'. You're kidding, right? This is Amerika!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
On another thread we dug up some articles that detailed the joining of al Qaeda with anarchists and communists in Italy. Milan-cell type al Qaeda and the Oil for Food bribes lefties have actually been meeting. One article said it was in connection with Bush's visit to Italy a while back. One of the leftwingers who attended is Father Benjamin- a French priest who despises Bush - and who just happens to have been on the Baathist oil vouchers nipple.

I would expect that these groups' cooperative efforts extend across the Atlantic to our crazies as well.

7 posted on 07/12/2004 4:15:35 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

I'll bet Saddam's money found it's way to some on our side of the pond as well.

Certainly there's an island somewhere in the Aleutians that is fairly empty that needs a large number of young people with lots of energy to colonize it and make it more habitable.


8 posted on 07/12/2004 4:19:06 AM PDT by datura (The Difference Between a Democrat and a Communist Is????)
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To: SirLurkedalot

Talk about a revolution!


9 posted on 07/12/2004 4:21:16 AM PDT by Ros42
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To: kattracks

This will backfire enormously.

The tactics may have changed but the sentiment is the same as the sixties and people no longer tolerate that type of behavior.

If they act up and this turns into an armed siege, all bets are off and the election is a landslide for President Bush.


10 posted on 07/12/2004 4:21:19 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I'm still prettier than John Edwards.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Here's a clip from one of those articles:

(snip) ...Italian police are investigating the IPA, whose members originally were Iraqi communist dissidents living in European exile. Their leader, Abdul Jabbar Kubaisy, reconciled with Saddam Hussein in Baghdad in February 2003 and committed the group "to confront American imperialist aggression."     Mr. Kubaisy returned to Baghdad when the United States invaded Iraq, leaving his deputy, Awni al Kalemji, to organize anti-American propaganda, according a senior official of the Italian military intelligence organization SISMI.
    Mr. Kalemji took part last summer in the "Anti-Imperialist Camp," a weeklong gathering of communists and other leftists including revolutionaries from Iraq, the Philippines, Nepal, the Palestinian territories and Venezuela. The camp was held in the Umbrian hill town of Assisi, home of St. Francis of Assisi (1181-1226), patron saint of animals and the environment and founder of the Franciscan Order of monks.
    Also present were radical intellectuals such as Franco Cardini, a leading expert on medieval history who says that recent videos of Osama bin Laden are fakes distributed by the CIA to foster anti-Islamic sentiment.
    Another participant was the Rev. Jean-Marie Benjamin, a French Roman Catholic priest who in February 2003 organized a visit to the Vatican by then Iraqi Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz.     Father Benjamin's name appeared on a list of 270 persons and organizations that received suspect vouchers under the U.N.-run Iraqi oil-for-food program, the subject of several investigations.
    Organizers of the Anti-Imperialist Camp still are collecting funds for the IPA, asking for the equivalent of $12 from each participant, Libero reported recently. It said the contributions were going into a special bank account but did not say where they went from there.... (/snip)
Source: -- "Al Qaeda seeking funds in Italy," By John Phillips, THE WASHINGTON TIMES, June 12, 2004
11 posted on 07/12/2004 4:21:26 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: SirLurkedalot
Hats,bats and horses bump.Club em all,let triage sort em out.

My thoughts too, but I'm sad to say that you will find some on even this forum that will consider that an abuse of the Patriot Act. IMO, anyone who does what is suggested is in the same category as a terrorist and anything that happens to them is just fine.

12 posted on 07/12/2004 4:22:33 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: kattracks

It seems to me that these so called "pranks" would be equivalent to screaming FIRE in a crowded theatre.

Will there be charges for such antics?

Also, seems counterproductive, especially if they target Republican convention and not the Democratic convention.

Democrats could be seen as "anarchist" friendly, and thus not targets.


13 posted on 07/12/2004 4:25:14 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: piasa
I agree.

Also,I've seen some Animal Rights and Green websites that are pro-Palestinian,anti-Jewish.Following links from one site to the next can be enlightening.

There's quite a twisted web of different groups tied to terrorists in one way or another.

14 posted on 07/12/2004 4:29:43 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: kattracks
Anyone disrupted in the least bit by one of these vermin should file suit. Garnish their trust fund and welfare checks for the rest of their life.
15 posted on 07/12/2004 4:31:11 AM PDT by fso301
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To: kattracks

The NYPD in this city is in no mood to play games with these nitwits and are not going to be gentle with these scumbags when they apprehend them. The cops in NYC have been looking for an excuse since 9/11 to unload on someone. That, and the fact that almost every cop I know in this city is a Bush supporter.


16 posted on 07/12/2004 4:32:36 AM PDT by Larry381 (The Democratic Party-Celebrating 60 years of aid and comfort to America's enemies)
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To: Free Trapper

Soros and his ilk has really been spreading the cash around...


17 posted on 07/12/2004 4:34:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: OpusatFR
This will backfire enormously.

You bet - the NYPD is not the Seattle PD.
18 posted on 07/12/2004 4:36:37 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: kattracks
The NYPD also is preparing for possible "Black Bloc" tactics by small groups of anarchists, in which demonstrators wear black clothing and bandannas over their faces - and wield pipes, bottles and commit acts of vandalism against corporate "enemies" such as the Gap, Starbucks and McDonald's.

Shoot them dead on sight. Should have started doing so years ago.

19 posted on 07/12/2004 4:36:50 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Kerry, who refuses to go to work, "Knows how to put America back to work"!)
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To: William McKinley; Grampa Dave; Miss Marple

Anarchists Suck *ping*


20 posted on 07/12/2004 4:38:43 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Ros42

Most lefties follow the Alligator Mouth/Canary Ass model,but not all of them.


21 posted on 07/12/2004 4:39:07 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: SirLurkedalot

"Club em all,let triage sort em out."

Well put.


22 posted on 07/12/2004 4:40:36 AM PDT by jocon307 (Nor forgive!)
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To: All
News coverage of actions by groups like this will cause the true colors of our media to be revealed. Talk about an election altering event! Most Americans wouldn't want to be associated with this type of shenanigans and be repulsed.
Each one of these "trust-fund anarchists" wants to be a martry until they are being buggered by big willie or "handsome" red. Do the bookings at Riker's, these punks will make a few new friends, beside having had a flesh suppository. My only wish would be spending a day as a fly on the wall, watching their tears at their painful comuppance.
Finally, there are plans to have groups of "vigilant" Jerseyans, deputized to ride the rails and buses and take suspicious characters off mass transit and into, heh, heh, "custody" in the Pine Barrens.
It will be quite exciting.
23 posted on 07/12/2004 4:41:27 AM PDT by olde north church (Logic made me a conservative, circumstance made me a zealot.)
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To: kattracks
"I find it very telling that there are no similar plans from this group of "fringe elements" for the Dem convention."

Notice my tag line - I added it some months ago:

All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or ANARCHISTS

24 posted on 07/12/2004 4:43:50 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: kattracks
As a side note, these groups have been practicing / perfecting their "virtual mob" tactics for more than a year. In the first cases, the effects were totally harmless - swarming a particular store in NYC. Now by combining these sets of tactics, they can effectively shut down the city's transportation system as LE has to err on the safe side.

Call it, "pulling a Spain without detonating a single bomb".

25 posted on 07/12/2004 4:44:21 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: kattracks
The left wing atheist/communist attack on the right wing freedom loving people of America continues to grow in size and intensity, there is an ever increasing polarization between the right and the left in America. The left wing intends to destroy America by bringing in totalitarian control of it's citizens, peace through government control of all citizens is it's siren call and they have effectively been attaining that end for some 70 years now.
What has become of all the left wing efforts to control and destroy but sorrow and grief for all of us, they see people as fools who need them to control them and lead them into the ditch of secular humanism.
They hate freedom of religion and of speech, the press is now a left wing arm of government and spews propaganda to those ignorant of their agenda; violence and deception are their ways, cursing and bitterness is their fruit.
I pray to the LORD Jesus Christ for this dying nation.
26 posted on 07/12/2004 4:46:03 AM PDT by wgeorge2001 (For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.)
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To: trebb
We "are" at war.

Anyone advising or practicing these kinds of things are aiding and abetting our enemies and putting our lives in jeopardy at the very least.

I think "shoot on sight" is the proper response.

27 posted on 07/12/2004 4:46:07 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: kattracks
Internet-using anarchists

I wonder why they didn't use the term "telephone-using anarchists" or "automobile-using anarchists"...

28 posted on 07/12/2004 4:52:58 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Kozak
"I find it very telling that there are no similar plans from this group of "fringe elements" for the Dem convention."

"That because they will be the convention"

You're right! See #24.

29 posted on 07/12/2004 4:53:01 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: wgeorge2001

If you did something beside pray, maybe decide to fight these j@ckasses, we wouldn't be a "dying nation". Just a thought.


30 posted on 07/12/2004 4:56:01 AM PDT by olde north church (Logic made me a conservative, circumstance made me a zealot.)
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To: All
I would like to start a pool on the:
Gender
Race
Sexual Orientation
Disability
Age
Date
Time
They will sacrifice one of their own to be a martyr for their cause a la Kent State.
31 posted on 07/12/2004 5:00:00 AM PDT by olde north church (Logic made me a conservative, circumstance made me a zealot.)
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To: olde north church

I'm not so optimistic. The news coverage will end up being of the "police brutality" and "violations of civil rights" that the NYPD and other LE organizations "commit" in trying to secure the Convention, and break these anarchist tactics.

The mainstream presstitutes will show pictures of five anti-abortion protestors at the DNC and scream that they are "disruptors"...there could be five thousand violent anarchists at the RNC and they will be labeled "peaceful protestors" being "oppressed" by the NYPD.

}:-)4


32 posted on 07/12/2004 5:06:12 AM PDT by Moose4 (Grill a liberal this Fourth of July weekend. They're low-carb.)
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To: trebb

If they'd tone it down(yeah,I know,keep dreaming...)I'd tone it down too.If we allow what amounts to outright sedition pass for free speech we do their dirty work for them.If America is going down the tubes I don't want to tell my grandchildren that I just watched it happen.


33 posted on 07/12/2004 5:09:04 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: kattracks
fringe groups' bag of tricks - which includes throwing marbles under the hooves of police horses and using slingshots to pelt the animals.

This was used by the War Protestors (including Bubba Clinton)in London in the 60s.A good friend went from rising horse patrolman to disabled solicitor because of it.

34 posted on 07/12/2004 5:09:09 AM PDT by leadhead
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To: piasa
A number of years ago,I knew a card-carrying neo-Nazi that showed me some printed literature.

Some of the articles had pictures of Black Muslims meeting with the neo-Nazis.

Their mutual wish for separation of the races had them considering ways to split our Nation into smaller "racial" countries by working together.

.

The same Nazi was into Animal Rights,Green,Odinism,Wicca;and thought the Anarchists would be very useful to the "cause".

I'm sure that not all people in these groups want the downfall of our Nation but our enemies are many and interconnected.

35 posted on 07/12/2004 5:11:52 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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To: Larry381
I like the Chicago Police T-shirts at the 2000 rat convention. As I recall the media pitched a hissy fit over the FOP shirts. They read as I remember them:
"We beat up your parents in 1968 and if you get out of line we will beat you too."
36 posted on 07/12/2004 5:11:52 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (You can always tell a skunk by the smell.)
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To: kattracks

These people are idiots. They aren't making trouble for their causes--their adopting causes as a guise to make trouble.


37 posted on 07/12/2004 5:12:24 AM PDT by Skwidd (Isolationism Now!)
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To: jriemer; Grampa Dave
I have said for quite some time that the far lefty groups are ripe for rolling into Al Qaeda. I expect the next terrorist attack will be with the collusion of these folks.

It isn't enough to look with suspicion on Middle East types. We also need to pay attention to the Black Muslims, the anarchists, PETA, ELF, and assorted nut cases.

38 posted on 07/12/2004 5:22:15 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: leadhead

Grrrrrr!


39 posted on 07/12/2004 5:22:19 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (God bless our Veterans!!! And God bless America!!!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
We ought to send the bill to their parents for any damages their Me-ocratic tantrums cause.

No. They need to be charged with aiding and abetting terrorists. Trying to confuse, disrupt and over burden anti-terror security resources is a direct act of support for terrorism.

40 posted on 07/12/2004 5:25:58 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: kattracks
I find it telling that there are no similar plans ... for the Dems convention."

Some of them are probably delegates to the Democrat convention. And the rest are mostly fellow travelers such as ELF, ALF, the Ruckus Society, etc.

41 posted on 07/12/2004 5:29:28 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: IrishCatholic
Funny T-shirt! But trust the prostestors and the media to restage Chicago '68 as faithfully as possible.
42 posted on 07/12/2004 5:30:14 AM PDT by ishmac
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To: kattracks

Sounds like the terrorists at democrat underground, moveon.org, and ACT (americans coming together). It even sounds like the kerry/edwards campaign.


43 posted on 07/12/2004 5:34:28 AM PDT by punster
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To: kattracks

Who finances these people?


44 posted on 07/12/2004 5:40:06 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: kattracks
Fury at anarchist convention threat

Once again the headline takes me on a tangent. I didn't think they were organized enough to announce a convention. Now I've returned to the correct focus.

45 posted on 07/12/2004 5:42:56 AM PDT by jimfree (Never did no wanderin' after all.)
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To: kattracks

Allow New York's Finest to crack a few skulls and this kind of foolishment would stop.


46 posted on 07/12/2004 5:52:26 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: jriemer; All
If you will do a general search on google for:

flash mobs + moveon

It is all for the democrats.......LOL

There are over a thousand listings of how the mobs have been used and it can be very dangerous.

My fear was always that the terrorists will use the "cover" of a flash mob to get to the real target.
47 posted on 07/12/2004 5:53:27 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (A Google search for: communist manifesto 1963 & muslim manifesto 1990, Will show todays laws in them)
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To: Scenic Sounds
The anarchists are all enslaved,
My own flag is forever waved by grateful people I have saved.

They ought to be enslaved for wanting to being mean to the doggies.

48 posted on 07/12/2004 6:00:02 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: kattracks

I had a few beers with some leos of various agencies last week. We talked at length about the upcoming DNC convention. They were quite concerned about the black bloc "anarchists."

I felt obligated to point out that they were communists, the complete opposite of anarchists, and that they were mostly foreigners supported by Soros and international communism, yet they were certainly connected to the dems as well.

I also recited as much as I could remember about the tactics they had used before and what I'd heard about being planned for the convention.

I'm expecting some "must see tv" from this.

Tried to volunteer to help as well. Too old to go baby seal on the young blackshirts, but would be delighted to perch on a rooftop and do some plinking.


49 posted on 07/12/2004 6:02:26 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (If they were anarchists, they'd refuse to organize!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Some of their support comes from George Soros.

Also John Kerry's wife.

It's a sad thing that a "possible" First Lady of the U.S. uses her fortune to support anti-American groups through her financial foundations.

50 posted on 07/12/2004 6:02:30 AM PDT by Free Trapper (Because we ate the green mammals first!)
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