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The Right to Bare Arms
NY Times ^ | July 19, 2004 | Meathead Editorial

Posted on 07/18/2004 9:37:46 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Cannoneer No. 4

As long as they don't get assault rifles. Bears are notoriously poor shots at long range.


61 posted on 07/18/2004 11:21:59 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Terrorist attacks ain't caused by the use of strength. They're invited by the perception of weakness)
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To: dasboot

Not to mention the beautiful Chilenas.


62 posted on 07/18/2004 11:24:38 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Terrorist attacks ain't caused by the use of strength. They're invited by the perception of weakness)
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To: cyborg

I think of her and the CLINTON FAMILY as a Hydra. Sharpen your knife and keep on cutting; we will prevail.


63 posted on 07/18/2004 11:38:02 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: neverdem

I once read that citizens who carry legally, are less likely to use a firearm illegally than LEO are.


64 posted on 07/18/2004 11:45:52 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: South40

What would be Harry Callahan's thought!


65 posted on 07/18/2004 11:46:47 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Er, uh, I trust you meant that the Queen of Hearts boasted about her being able to believe a dozen IMpossible things before breakfast. Right? (w!)


66 posted on 07/18/2004 11:52:03 PM PDT by SAJ (Buy 1 NGH05 7.50 call, Sell 3 NGH05 11.00 calls against, for $750-900 net credit OB. Stone lock.)
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To: bolobaby

Sure thing..........welcome to Virginia :)


67 posted on 07/18/2004 11:59:57 PM PDT by ar15girl
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To: JackelopeBreeder

We were camping up in the Arizona Rim country last week. I was openly carrying a holstered automatic pistol when armed U.S. Forest Service enforcement officers drove up to our campsite.

No surprise, nor so much as a question concerning the handgun, they just wanted to inform us of the fire danger and give an update on the forest fire a few miles away. All was friendly and of no consequence.

I can only shudder to think what would have happened under similar conditions in some of the more (sarcasm on) enlightened commie liberal states of NJ, NY, MA & such.

When one's government is in fear of it's free citizens being armed, those same citizens should be very much in fear of that same government.


68 posted on 07/19/2004 12:05:21 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: agitator

"Wyoming. Don't come here :)"

I know to get elected, the democrat gov there in Wyoming had to promise every citizen he would personally give them each a .44 mag. (:>)


69 posted on 07/19/2004 12:14:43 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: bolobaby

If you want to work for one of the "beltway bandits", come to Huntsville, AL
Barn Owl


70 posted on 07/19/2004 12:45:21 AM PDT by Barn Owl (Is he flippin' or floppin'??????)
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To: bolobaby
Good thing I'm planning on moving soon. Just trying to figure out where I can find the friendliest territory. Criteria: predominately republican, growing economy, low cost of living, good values, low taxes, and sensible laws. Any suggestions?

I was going through this same quandary at the beginning of last year. I made a few road trips which helped.

Then I came across Find Your Spot. After taking their free test they recommended several places based on how I answered the questions. One of the places I had never heard of before: Aiken, SC. I have now - I live here and am very content. And it meets all of your criteria.

Link.

71 posted on 07/19/2004 12:50:42 AM PDT by upchuck (You do know that the Tasmanians, who never committed adultery, are now extinct, don't you?)
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To: neverdem
The flaunting ritual is a tribute to "open carry" gun laws on the books in a score of states. Outcries from the unarmed public usually go unheeded. In Utah, university administrators worried over students' wearing guns in dormitories were overruled by the legislature, which defended gun rights — even to the point of packing in class.

This is great! I go to (a very expensive private) school in a pretty lousy area, where you can't take a walk at night without being accosted by a mentally ill person or threatened by someone probably high on something. Cars were stolen from our parking lot repeatedly, and our house was broken into at least once. I definitely learned situational awareness, though my calculus is rusty to the point of uselessness. If I and my friends, mostly pro-gun conservatives, libertarians, and liberals, were allowed to properly arm ourselves, the environment would be much nicer.

72 posted on 07/19/2004 1:11:15 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: neverdem
Virginia law: effective this month, state law bars any locality from enacting gun regulations.

Dear NYT:

It's actually much better that: our new law not only prevents localities from enacting new anti-gun regulations, it also removed all of the existing "granfathered" local regulations from the books. Two birds with one stone.

And it put localities into line by requiring that a temporary concealed carry permit be issued on the spot should that locality exceed its 45-day statutory issuance deadline. No more footdragging.

And 14 other new pro-firearms laws.

Gotcha.

73 posted on 07/19/2004 1:47:48 AM PDT by angkor
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To: dasboot
Chile

But no RKBA. Unless things have changed a heck of a lot.

If you got a "porta armas" it was for one gun and a bullet and shell casing from it was kept in the national armory.

74 posted on 07/19/2004 1:50:26 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( "Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew" Ense et aratro!)
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To: bolobaby; neverdem

I lived for a couple years up in mid-New Hampshire, it was very nice. Once you get past the lower part of NH (which is packed with Mass tax evaders and illegal aliens) it lives up to the Live Free Or Die motto, although people don't run around flouting the law or abusing freeedom. An interesting aspect is that one friend went for his concealed carry at the local (town) PD and had it the next day.

Also drove around Alaska for a month with a vague notion of perhaps moving there. Its another superb state which I came to call the United State Of Alaska. It's a world unto itself.


75 posted on 07/19/2004 2:00:17 AM PDT by angkor
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To: agitator; bolobaby
In fact, it's been my observation that regulation and restriction of rights increase in direct proportion to population population density.

Interesting point and very pertinent to this NYT editorial: one of the firearms laws stricken by the VA legislature was that "high density" localities could require a firearms permit. I don't know if any of our "high density" localities (which would be most of Northern VA) actually had such a requirement, but they can't anymore.

76 posted on 07/19/2004 2:07:20 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
We were camping up in the Arizona Rim country last week. I was openly carrying a holstered automatic pistol

That's why I camp only in National Forests and avoid National Parks whenever possible (where firearms are not allowed).

The NF's also offer less crowding and usually a more pristine setting than the NP's.

77 posted on 07/19/2004 2:17:26 AM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

give them time...


78 posted on 07/19/2004 2:22:50 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: epow
Judging by the recent actions of the VA legislators and governor, the majority of VA's citizens disagree. Doncha just love to hear the libs whine and moan when unConstitutional gun laws are repealed?

This NYT editorial is even more whiny and moany than the Wash Post story yesterday (or was it Saturday?).

And you're right, it's a hoot.

What makes it even more satisfying is that the NYT can't gin-up any "corrective" actions or editorial drumbeating, since they'd get a hearing only in Alexandria, Arlington, and perhaps Reston (oh, and maybe Falls Church City which lost it's grandfathered ban on open carry).

So the NYT is reduced to impotent carping, and that's as far it'll get.

The NYT (as to be expected) not once mentioned that Starbucks can put a "No Firearms Permitted" sign on its doors if it so chooses, and that any proprietor of any establishment can ask an open carry patron to leave (or just remove the firearm from the premises). The penalty for refusal to comply is misdemeanor trespassing.

79 posted on 07/19/2004 2:27:30 AM PDT by angkor
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To: neverdem
And how about the couple walking their dogs on busy Market Street in Reston? They carried pistols on their hips, plus extra ammunition clips, as if the area were a set from "The Wild Bunch" and not one of the most crime-free places in Virginia.

And it probably stays crime-free within their immediate vicinity.

The NYT are a bunch of sissy-girl gunophobes.

80 posted on 07/19/2004 2:30:52 AM PDT by MitchellC (No gamma rays for oil.)
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