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ZOT! Are You Guys Scared Or What (Do Not Erase But Reply!)
July 21, 2004 | Tafkatld

Posted on 07/21/2004 4:52:37 AM PDT by Tafkatld

A few minutes ago I posted here about Linda Ronstadt. No swearing, no personal insults. Other posters here viciously attacked and insulted Ronstadt, their posts remain. My post got deleted within minutes. Are you guys really that scared? I believe in free speech and the exchange of opinions, obviously you don't. Mr Robinson, answer me: on what basis was my post deleted? I almost feel compelled to post on various other websites how I doubled up laughing about the cowardice on display here. Again, show me your courage please, cheers from the Leftist Dutchman!


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To: Tafkatld

In case you are numerically challenged this is Dial-A-Prayer. Perhaps they can help you with the issues you face in life.


141 posted on 07/21/2004 6:44:18 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: Tafkatld

Wow. That you could assemble so many misstatements or falsehoods into one post is quite an accomplishment.

I haven't really researched the relative strength of the Dutch economic and political institutions, so I have no comment about them.

However, your analysis of the condition of the political and economic institutions indicates three possibilities: (1) You are woefully misinformed due to exposure to leftist commentaries and news outlets; (2) You have attempted to research the available factual data but simply lack the intellectual ability to draw reasonable conclusions from the data; or (3) You simply make up your own conclusions and then repeat them even though you know them to be false.

Contrary to your stated opinion, going into Iraq was NOT a horrific mistake. Regime change in Iraq has been the official US policy since about mid-way thru clinton's second term. It was far overdue, and it will improve stability in the Middle East rather than degrading it.

You state that no WMDs have been found and no ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda have been established. Again, both of these statements are false. Either you are ignorant and misinformed or you are a liar.

As for the rest of your comments about Afghanistan, world terrorism, and political futures, my son's six-week-old kitten offers more intelligent and thought-provoking conversation.


142 posted on 07/21/2004 6:44:38 AM PDT by VRWCmember (This tagline not to be removed under penalty of law except by consumer.)
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To: Darksheare

Doughnuts and juicy juice


143 posted on 07/21/2004 6:44:40 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Sir Guy de la Conspiracie, kuh-nigget extraordinaire. RKBA & Insane Clown Posse since 7/04)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

hmmmm...
thank you all for hanging aroung. I would not consider myself a liberal, though. That word is used in Holland for those adopting the Late Capitalist Small Govt No Taxes line of thinking, which I strongly object to. I don't mind paying taxes for decent public services, which we have in Holland. As I said, the trend towards Late Capitalism is on the rise in Holland, and that is not a good thing. I am deeply opposed to the privatization of Correctional Facilities/Prisons, for instance. Nor do I believe in the privatization of public transport, energy companies, and water supplies. We witnessed with horror the California electricity scandal, which had everything to do with issues concerning privatization, although you no doubt will blame Gray Davis.
I do not believe in depleting the world's national resources supplies either, but sadly enough the SUV craze has hit Holland too. Bad, as in baaaaad.
These were, admittedly, random thoughts.
As for Iraq: I found a lot of insult and threats in your posts, and very little that could be construed as 'factual'. I studied in the sciences and am a firm believer in the way Karl Popper looked upon facts, and how to deal with them. That said, I will diligently look at the links provided by the more intelligent posters who replied. But references to Hannibal Lecter, or death threats, I find rather boring. They don't impress me at all and just confirm the opinion held by many Europeans left, right and center, that a lot of U.S. inhabitants are trigger-mad violent intruders. You may trust that I don't hold such a general view. I like Americans, like American culture (Hawthorne, Ives, Melville, Twain, Springsteen, for instance), like the U.S. work ethic and much more. It's just that I cannot second many of the USA's politics at the mo.
So there. And I am not a troll - I wonder what constitutes a troll here: someone who does not follow the party line? Please explain.
Tafkatld.


144 posted on 07/21/2004 6:46:31 AM PDT by Tafkatld (GOP - what is that, then?)
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To: Tafkatld

"As for Iraq: I found a lot of insult and threats in your posts, and very little that could be construed as 'factual'. I studied in the sciences and am a firm believer in the way Karl Popper looked upon facts, and how to deal with them."

Explain then how mix in flight binary chemical artillery shells which Iraq had no examples thereof prior to 1996 end up in Iraq?
They are not of US manufacture, but seem to be of Warsaw Pact style manufacture.
AND, how did proscribed FRENCH SAM missiles made in 2003 get into Iraq at all?

You still have yet to explain "women and children evaporated".
Are you referring to the sensational reports coming from the Fedeyeen of a beamweapon that melts people?
(If you are, then you have just proven yourself a liar.)


145 posted on 07/21/2004 6:52:06 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: PetroniDE
Hey -- Where did you find the flying donkey ???? I like that graphic.

Thanks. Someone posted that here several weeks ago. I just copy the good ones and use them on various threads.

146 posted on 07/21/2004 6:52:08 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Flush the john/john rat ticket in 2004. #1 & #4 liberals in Congress.)
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To: Tafkatld
Lemme see if I got this straight --

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good...
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good...
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad..

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good...
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good....
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad....

Clinton commits felonies while in office - good...
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good..
Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good...
No WMD found in Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good...
Recession under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good...
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good.
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good...
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good...
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good...
Saddam in custody - bad.

147 posted on 07/21/2004 6:52:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Tafkatld
Maybe you can answer a question that most conservatives can't. How does it feel to be born stupid? I am not talking just any stupid, but the downright vapid, tiresome and tedious type exhibited by most liberals.

Do liberals wakeup one day and realize that shoe laces are beyond their cognitive function or is it gradual process? Something like a neurologically challenged dog that keeps chasing parked cars until knocked senseless.

Do liberals realize their cognitive function is equivalent to a rotting mushroom or do they enable each other with nuanced fantasies of superiority?

I am serious about my questions and please take it as a compliment that I am asking you and not just some other hit and run troll. Take pride in your achievement at being a representative sample of a truly dysfunctional DNA mishap.
148 posted on 07/21/2004 6:53:45 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: Tafkatld

When it is discovered that a troll has left excrement you have to get the pooper-scooper and get rid of it. It's just the polite thing to do. You wouldn't want anyone stepping in something so foul.


149 posted on 07/21/2004 6:54:40 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Tafkatld
Yes I am Dutch and a paying member of our Green Left Party



150 posted on 07/21/2004 6:54:47 AM PDT by itsamelman (40: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall." 42: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman")
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To: Tafkatld
just confirm the opinion held by many Europeans left, right and center, that a lot of U.S. inhabitants are trigger-mad violent intruders.

I can see any downside to that perception.

BTW, a "troll" is a person who posts with the intent to be disruptive or inflammatory.

151 posted on 07/21/2004 6:55:54 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: Tafkatld

You openly call yourself a Leftist.

Leftists, socialists, communists--all of the same stripe, and cut from the same ideological cloth.

It was your ilk that was the mass destroyer of the twentieth century.

Hundreds of millions of innocents either were killed or deprived of their liberty and their very sustenance by your misguided, evil experiment in God-denying socialism.

You are deceived, sir. You have believed the lie. You have built your spiritual and your philosophical foundation on shifting, unstable sand.

And here on FR you will find a collection of folks who long ago saw through that destructive deception...people who believe in freedom and fight for it every single day.

We're far from perfect. But next to the drivel you posted, we're all saints and geniuses.

Grow up.

Find God.

Lose the delusions.

Are you listening?


152 posted on 07/21/2004 6:56:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Sloth

Oops, should be CAN'T see any downside.


153 posted on 07/21/2004 6:56:21 AM PDT by Sloth (We have to support RINOs like Specter; their states are too liberal to elect someone like Santorum.)
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To: Tafkatld
I'll raise a toast to John F. Kerry then

I was willing to debate until I saw this; now I know you're a complete europeon troll. If you cannot see his duplicity and cowardice .. well .. you're probably too stupid to debate logically.

154 posted on 07/21/2004 6:57:01 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Many a law, many a commandment have I broken, but my word never.)
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To: Tafkatld

"They don't impress me at all and just confirm the opinion held by many Europeans..."

And your behavior confirms the opinions held by all of us about the nose in the air elitist effete snobs in europe who pretend to be inttelctuals but are in reality liars, hypocrites, bigots, and ignorants.


155 posted on 07/21/2004 6:57:23 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Darksheare
sensational reports coming from the Fedeyeen of a beamweapon that melts people?

That is the first that I have heard of this. Can you point me toward further details, please?

If Sandia labs or the Skunkworks had cooked up something with this capability, what would be a better place to test it than against terrorists?

I hope it is true.

156 posted on 07/21/2004 6:57:56 AM PDT by Living Stone (The following statement is true: The preceeding statement is false.)
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To: TigersEye

TigersEye = Good!


157 posted on 07/21/2004 6:59:37 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas ("There are two Americas, unfortunately for Edwards, neither one voted for him." Conan O'Brien)
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To: Lazamataz

Leftist Euro Trolls = The Other White Meat


158 posted on 07/21/2004 7:00:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Berger was an attorney w/o his secretary, and he just re-filed in the wrong drawers! Move On!)
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To: Living Stone

No, it isn't true.
The Fedeyeen terrorists were frightened to death by an M1 Abrams SEP version that fired it's main gun down a street at an enemy position, the main gun discharge set a vehicle on fire, scaring the heck outta the superstitious fanatics.

But, supposedly, it 'hosed down' a group of womenand children.
There was an article on it somewhere, I'll see if I can find it again.


159 posted on 07/21/2004 7:00:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (Show compassion, club a baby troll today!)
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To: Living Stone

Melted terorrists?

Hey, we could make fondue!


160 posted on 07/21/2004 7:00:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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