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DYNAMITE Vietnam POWs Say Kerry's Words and Deeds Were Used by Guards to Torture Them
INSIGHT ^ | AUGUST 4 EDITION | Richard Tomkins, UPI White House correspondent

Posted on 08/09/2004 2:06:47 PM PDT by Liz

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To: GarySpFc

The Cambodia Story has broken of Fox News (Carl Cameron). Kerry's people stated he never claimed to be in Cambodia. Maybe this new info will change the way some of the "speak no evil" crowd looks at the situation.


41 posted on 08/09/2004 3:24:38 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump


42 posted on 08/09/2004 3:27:12 PM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person)
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To: baseballmom

Just saw him hiding in the Grand Canyon on the news.


43 posted on 08/09/2004 3:28:54 PM PDT by battlegearboat (I'm reporting for duty...kerry did doodee on me)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Kerry is a lying traitorous ba*tard who needs a tractor to pull his head out of his ass. All of his glory hunting for medals, and his betrayal of his fellow vets after his return were always a part of his plan to run for the Presidency.

Shout the truth from the rooftops! Kerry is unfit to lead. I'd say he couldn't lead two nuns in a prayer.

44 posted on 08/09/2004 3:31:31 PM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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To: Sisku Hanne
But this I now understand in my heart- that instead of the understanding and forgiveness they so desperately needed and deserved, they were met with vicious disdain and disrespect for their sacrifices.

Forgiveness? For what? For going when their country called. For doing their duty honorably. For acting like American soldiers have always acted, before and since Vietnam? No they need no forgivess, but they do need appreciation. You can see that by their reactions when they finally get some, as many did in various parades and such after Desert Storm/Shield, when the nation began to see how shabbily it had treated them. Most of course weren't devastated by that treatment, but it still hurt.

45 posted on 08/09/2004 3:35:04 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Sisku Hanne
It is absolutely repellant to me that the same people who practically celebrate the intentional snuffing of unborn babies lives can then turn around and shout "baby-killer" to our soldiers. It creates a hateful rage inside I didn't know I was capable of feeling. May God forgive me.

Well thought out and formulated post FRiend. God has mercy for us all.

46 posted on 08/09/2004 3:51:57 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I am too blessed to be stressed and too annointed to be disappointed!)
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To: Liz
I think the Dummycraps won't understand what they're doing wrong for at least 2 or 3 more elections.

First they just get by getting a lying draft dodger elected...A POLISHED Liar.

Now they've nominated a MALINGERING MALCONTENT who they've branded a "Hero" (by whose definition, I can't find). He's just a BAAAAD Liar.

When they come back to Earth and get with the Webster's Dictionary we all grew up with, maybe they'll have a chance again.

47 posted on 08/09/2004 3:58:00 PM PDT by Wondervixen (Ask for her by name--Accept no substitutes!)
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To: GarySpFc

Anyone hear someone named Chris ????? who is an RNC person debate ol' Susan last Friday night? He made absolute mincemeat out of Susan about the Swift Vets.

Anyone know who that was and what his role is? Chris needs to be one of the "key spokesmen" for Dubya. He was awesome.


48 posted on 08/09/2004 3:59:36 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
"Lawyers and character asassinations are the modern subsitutes for spit and blood. The difference is that now the vets are home to fight, not still on the battlefields or in the prison camps."

"Nothing, nothing has changed in regard to John Kerry's treatment of Viet Nam Veterans."

Amen.

49 posted on 08/09/2004 4:04:13 PM PDT by semaj ("....by their fruit you will know them.")
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To: semaj

bttt for the People against FnKerry


50 posted on 08/09/2004 4:07:29 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo Pres./Jeff Flake V.P. 2004!)
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To: Liz

Add in the on-the-record-lie from FnKerry's on lips in the well of the Senate that he spent Christmas '68 in Cambodia when his commanders say otherwise.....I just hope more of the public is paying attention and see what a low-life lying fraud FnKerry is....typical Dim.


51 posted on 08/09/2004 4:13:20 PM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo Pres./Jeff Flake V.P. 2004!)
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To: Sisku Hanne

Well said.


52 posted on 08/09/2004 4:13:40 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: Sisku Hanne
instead of the understanding and forgiveness they so desperately needed and deserved

It is they who should forgive us. They did nothing to apologize for. We, collectively, did. We turned our backs on them.

I will not commit this same sin twice.

53 posted on 08/09/2004 4:15:03 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Liz
By September 1 sKerry will be very sorry he decided to make the Viet Nam war the centerpiece of his campaign. I have a feeling those involved are just getting started.

Of course, what else could he have run on?

54 posted on 08/09/2004 4:30:24 PM PDT by upchuck (Words from sKerry or Actions from President Bush? You decide.)
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To: El Gato
Sorry, I should have been clearer. Of course all of them deserve appreciation, but I think that some did feel they needed a sort of personal "absolution" too.
The word "forgiveness" stuck in my mind because I just finished reading "The Five People You Meet In Heaven". The main character, Eddie, was a WWII soldier. In the book he meets a little Phillipino girl who he had inadvertently killed when setting fire to a building which he thought was empty. It literally broke my heart to finally comprehend what our soldiers go through, especially when confronted with an instance of causing a civilian casualty (Especially nowadays when the liberal MSM seems to just love wringing their hands over that sort of thing). I can't begin to imagine the pain of bearing that knowledge. When I read the chapter where Eddie releases this burden and finally forgives himself (as the little girl had forgiven him), I felt as if God have me one moment where he laid that soldier's burden on my heart. Just one moment, and it was like a hot branding iron; an excruciating and overwhelming moment of grief and sorrow that fairly took the breath right out of me.

I'm understanding that some of these vets have born a psycholological burden so heavy that it has driven the to take their own lives or destroy themselves with booze or drugs. Some came home with feeling of shame, made worse by the treatment they received. I think some are like Eddie in the book, and spend their lives punishing themselves, when it shouldn't be that way at all. But if you come home only to be spat upon and cursed, what other choices do you have?

They absolutely do make the most noble of all sacrifices- another point the book made. The book made a point that what is most important in your life are the sacrifices you make, not the rewards you may expect.
They should be properly honored for that willingness to lay down their life for something greater than themselves. It was heartening to see proper recognition in the Gulf War, but it disgusts me to hear of leftie protestors disgracing some of our soldiers who have been coming back from Iraq.

I hope one of the things that comes out of this, besides the SwiftBoat Vets getting their personal well-deserved victory, is that more people do realize the enormity of the Viet Nam soldiers' sacrifice on so many levels. And maybe some protestors (who still have any remaining semblance of a moral compass) will start to realize the consequences of their words and actions. How many more dead soldiers do we have because of the MSM, the left, and their continual politicized bashing of the Iraq war effort? As far as I'm concerned Kerry, MM, the NYT, Hollyweird, and the whole pathetic lot of them have the blood of our brave soldiers on their hands.

55 posted on 08/09/2004 4:34:31 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (Deprogramming the left, one truth at a time.)
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To: Sisku Hanne

I feel the same rage at people who will kill innocent babies and then accuse our American military of the same thing. God understands our feelings - they are right and just.


56 posted on 08/09/2004 4:41:56 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: Liz
Kerry was trying to be a magician. By trying to focus everyone's attention on the war hero nonsense he was holding in his one hand, he was hoping that people wouldn't notice the traitorous anti-war activities he held in his other hand. Looks like its all going to blow up in his face.
57 posted on 08/09/2004 5:10:13 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Liz; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Kerry is a scoundrel and a traitor.

It is scary that a large part of the populous is behind him and will vote for him.

And when he looses the presidential race and goes back to doing the job he was elected to do (that he is not doing right now) will prosecution be sought for his aiding the enemy of the United States?
58 posted on 08/09/2004 6:15:03 PM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Liz

for later


59 posted on 08/09/2004 6:25:37 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: Delta 21

But he rewrites history so well

Bet you didn't know in his history book Nixon was President
in Dec 68

Gee I was there in Dec 68 and I could have sworn it was Johnson.


60 posted on 08/09/2004 6:32:53 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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