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I am a swing voter

Posted on 08/12/2004 12:05:29 AM PDT by Lepidopteran

I am a swing voter, neither Republican nor Democrat. I supported President Bush in his response to September 11 and I supported the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. But I like John Kerry's message about the need to do something about the people in this country who have no health insurance. It's a hard choice.


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To: Slings and Arrows

bbbaaaaaaaa.... shear me please..... its getting hot... baaaaa


241 posted on 08/12/2004 1:54:04 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: GeronL
Petulant child:

(Stamping feet. Pouting.)

I want my llama lolly!

242 posted on 08/12/2004 1:55:56 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sit Ubu. Sit. "(Woof!) "Good dog. ")
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To: GeronL

I think I saw Osama hiding in there.


243 posted on 08/12/2004 1:56:26 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Wow, kinda early!


244 posted on 08/12/2004 1:56:30 AM PDT by Neets (Conservative women LOVE BURLEY MEN, not GIRLIE DEMS.!)
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To: Lepidopteran

Another DU'er to FreeRepublic. Welcome.

I like to put liberals on the right path, so I'll break it down:

There are three types of health care systems:

1. A consumer-based system where everybody pays as they go
2. A corporatist, employer-provided system we know have
3. a single-payer government provided system

We currently have #2 for the most part, with #3 for seniors. It's a flawed system and actually a historical fluke: companies started paying workers with health care benefits during WWII to get around wage freezes. Employees liked health care, and government noticed, so they started allowing companies to deduct money spent on health care from their taxes. But it's a truly flawed system wherein the consumer does not decide what kind of health care he recives, nor does he have ANY regard for how much healthcare he consumes (he's not paying for it!). Furthermore, "employment mobility" is stifled because people are afraid of losing coverage and big businesses have an unfair advantage over small businesses by (large group plans are cheaper per worker than small plans).

The little devil on the left shoulder, #3, is also driving up costs. Did you know medicare only pays for 90% of the bill? And what do you think the hospital does to pay for the other 90%? Pass it on to non-medicare recipients in the form of $8 aspirins, for example.

You see, both candidates want to move us away from #2. However, Kerry wants to move us towards #3 while President Bush wants to move us towards #1 with his "medical savings accounts".

The president wants to enlarge Medical Savings accounts and down the road reform the corporate tax structure so employers aren't encouraged to give employees health care they really don't need.

Simultaneously eliminating corporate taxes and the welfare that goes along with it (the two are roughly the same amount) while expanding President George W. Bush's Medical Savings Accounts (MSAs) to all Americans would (1) eliminate the tax incentive to "pay people in benefits" (2) allow Americans to save for their own high-deductible health insurance. This would lead to a truly consumer-driven market.
There is very little cost awareness among insured consumers of health care services. If the cost of consuming a good is relatively low, consumers will generally consume more of them! This is especially true if a consumer gains little financially from minimizing their consumption. This is precisely the case in the healthcare industry, and it should be fixed by making American consumers, already cost-conscious in other facets of life, become cost-conscious about healthcare costs. This can only be done by making consumers pick their own healthcare plans.

Vote 4 Dubya!


245 posted on 08/12/2004 1:57:04 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Neets; KangarooJacqui
Or late, depending on your perspective.

If anyone asks, I live in Australia and this is a perfectly reasonable hour to posting comments on FreeRepublic.

Shhh!

Don't let on.

246 posted on 08/12/2004 1:58:19 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sit Ubu. Sit. "(Woof!) "Good dog. ")
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To: jnarcus
"...If you are dead it doesn't matter whether you have health insurance...DOn't you get it? WE ARE AT WAR!!!! "

But..but, what if I'm only---WOUNDED/ Say, in a supermarket bombing, by a piece of , uhh...shrapnel?? Is that the right word?...yes, uhh, wounded by a piece of rice-coated shrapnel on the butt? Who would pay for the bandage THEN?

You say we're at war, so could I get a Purple Heart for that??? Maybe that would be a good trade off for having to pay for my own Band-Aid.
247 posted on 08/12/2004 1:59:21 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: BJungNan

as I read my post and your reply out loud, my wife asked who stuck the red hot poker up your arse...i concur...


248 posted on 08/12/2004 2:00:45 AM PDT by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I think our Trollus Zottus took a poster's advice and crawled over to DU for some meet and greet.


249 posted on 08/12/2004 2:02:05 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: rolling_stone

Glad you got to see it. It's been around awhile. That unknown flamer is one funny guy, isn't he.


250 posted on 08/12/2004 2:04:38 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: Remember_Salamis

bump


251 posted on 08/12/2004 2:08:41 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

hahaha....ugh


252 posted on 08/12/2004 2:09:09 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Have you seen this??

Can you verify thie authenticity of this war photo please?

253 posted on 08/12/2004 2:12:57 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

Oh!!!!!!!!!

OK!!

Got it.

Must ready for the J.O.B. now.


254 posted on 08/12/2004 2:16:46 AM PDT by Neets (Conservative women LOVE BURLEY MEN, not GIRLIE DEMS.!)
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To: Remember_Salamis

We have a winner!!!


255 posted on 08/12/2004 2:17:10 AM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Lepidopteran

Here Kitty, Kitty...

256 posted on 08/12/2004 2:17:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GeronL; Darksheare; Dead Corpse; King Prout; Slings and Arrows; SandyInSeattle; Conspiracy Guy; ...
This thread is fighting for it's life.

It can go in one of three directions.

A. Continue to have some relative coherence as a rebuttal to that little popinjay's nuisance post about "swing" voters, who lean toward Kerry because of his position on health care.

2. It can become a standard-issue, pro forma "Viking Kitty" thread, which follows the usual routine.

Zed. It can be hijacked by a deviationist element of the RKBA Crew, who will shortly turn this thread into an unrecognizable mishmash of inscrutable non-words, bizarre sounds and images, theoretical equations and unfathomable philosophical dilemmas.

257 posted on 08/12/2004 2:17:33 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sit Ubu. Sit. "(Woof!) "Good dog. ")
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To: The Scourge of Yazid
It can be hijacked by a deviationist element of the RKBA Crew, who will shortly turn this thread into an unrecognizable mishmash of inscrutable non-words, bizarre sounds and images, theoretical equations and unfathomable philosophical dilemmas.

That sounds like a good one. But its time for me to get offline...

258 posted on 08/12/2004 2:19:03 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: Lepidopteran

THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY WOULD YOU BELEIVE ANYTHING A DAMN LIAR SAYS?!


259 posted on 08/12/2004 2:19:40 AM PDT by AmericaUnited (It's time someone says the emperor has no clothes.)
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To: Neets
Good luck at work.

Though you must now, being silly is some people's full-time occupation.

260 posted on 08/12/2004 2:19:57 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Sit Ubu. Sit. "(Woof!) "Good dog. ")
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