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Kerry's Cambodian links questioned
Kansas City Star ^ | 08/14/04 | SCOTT CANON

Posted on 08/14/2004 12:22:11 AM PDT by Pikamax

Kerry's Cambodian links questioned Did he see action there? Candidate's staff, critics disagree By SCOTT CANON The Kansas City Star

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John Kerry's “reporting for duty” salute at the Democratic National Convention last month emphasized the key biographical boast of his campaign — decorated combat service in Vietnam.

Now his repeated claim that he also weathered combat upriver in Cambodia has drawn harsh skepticism — driven by anti-Kerry veterans who star in a political commercial and book financed by Texas Republicans.

Roy Hoffmann, a retired admiral who was a Navy captain in command of Kerry's unit at the time, said the candidate's past statements about spending a Christmas Eve in Cambodia can't be true.

“I think he just outright lied,” said Hoffman, now aligned with Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and one of the officers criticizing Kerry in the ad. “He never was there.”

Over the years, Kerry has referred to spending Christmas or Christmas Eve 1968 in Cambodia and coming under fire. At the time, Cambodia was considered a neutral nation presumably off-limits to U.S. troops.

“I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia,” Kerry said in 1986 at a Senate committee hearing during a debate on U.S. policy toward Central America. “I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me.”

A few years earlier, the Massachusetts senator had talked with the Boston Herald about “the absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops.”

Nixon had been elected by Christmas 1968 but didn't take office until the next month.

The Kerry campaign has since said that the presidential candidate's recollection was imprecise — that his runs into Cambodia came in the early months of 1969. A June 2003 article in The Washington Post quotes Kerry talking about a mildewy and faded green camouflage hat he carries in his black attache.

“My good luck hat,” Kerry told the Post. “Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia.”

The book Unfit for Command put out by members of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth contends “all the living commanders in Kerry's chain of command … indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone” to Cambodia.

Yet the Kerry campaign said it was far from rare for American forces to pursue Viet Cong over the border.

“Swift Boat crews regularly operated along the Cambodian border from Ha Tien on the Gulf of Thailand to the rivers of the Mekong south and west of Saigon,” said Michael Meehan, a senior adviser in the Kerry campaign. “Boats often received fire from enemy taking sanctuary across the border. Kerry's was not the only United States riverboat to respond, inadvertently or responsibly, across the border.”

In 1969, Nixon authorized “Operation Breakfast,” the secret bombing of Cambodia in an attempt to destroy North Vietnamese base camps and supply routes in that country. In April 1970, Nixon announced that U.S. troops were invading Cambodia.

Douglas Brinkley drew from Kerry's journal in his flattering Tour of Duty biography. This account has Kerry's swift boat and two smaller patrol boats moving “up the Co Chien River to its junction with the My Tho only miles from the Cambodian border” and then tooling through idyllic canals north of Sa Dec — a village roughly 50 miles south of Cambodia.

The book describes the day's tranquility destroyed by an ambush that seemed to extend beyond a Christmas truce. Having survived that attack, the book said, Kerry and his comrades later had to back off from a South Vietnamese base to avoid friendly fire.

In Meehan's statement Friday, the campaign said Kerry spent Christmas Eve 1968 in “the watery borders between Vietnam and Cambodia deep in enemy territory.

“In the early afternoon,” the statement continues, “Kerry's boat, PCF-44, was at Sa Dec and then headed north to the Cambodian border. There, Kerry and his crew along with two other boats were ambushed, taking fire from both sides of the river, and after the firefight were fired upon again. Later that evening, during their night patrol, they came under friendly fire.

“Many times he was on or near the Cambodian border and on one occasion crossed into Cambodia at the request of members of a special operations group operating out of Ha Tien” on the Gulf of Thailand, Meehan said in his statement.

Hoffmann said he was leery of Kerry's claim to have ventured into Cambodia in early 1969 to deliver CIA operatives or special forces soldiers.

“I was always properly informed. The whole time I was there, I don't recall” such a mission, Hoffman said.

The anti-Kerry group, consisting mostly of men who served on other boats in the Mekong Delta, has accused him of cowardice in a battle where he was decorated for pulling a soldier from the river. These veterans, many angry about his later anti-war activities, have also said his Purple Hearts were awarded for superficial or self-inflicted wounds. Kerry's crewmates have come to his defense.

Kerry's defenders have dismissed the discussion of when and whether he fought in Cambodia as a ploy to diminish his military honors — a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts.

“We're quibbling over these details when a man volunteered for service and earned these honors protecting his fellow comrades in arms,” said Michael Golden, spokesman for Kerry's Missouri campaign.

To reach Scott Canon, call

(816) 234-4754 or send e-mail

to scanon@kcstar.com.

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First glance

• Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has said in the past he spent Christmas Eve 1968 on a Navy mission in Cambodia, a country where U.S. forces were forbidden to go.

• Critics contend he could not have been in the country then, but Kerry's campaign said American boats often patrolled Cambodian waters during that stage of the war.


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1 posted on 08/14/2004 12:22:11 AM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax; nopardons; potlatch; Grampa Dave; ALOHA RONNIE; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Smartass; ...

2 posted on 08/14/2004 12:25:11 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pikamax

He was never in Cambodia. As has been pointed out by others, they did not send any troops for about 13 months AFTER Kerry left Vietnam.


3 posted on 08/14/2004 12:25:27 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: GeronL
troops to Cambodia...

proofread!

4 posted on 08/14/2004 12:25:55 AM PDT by GeronL (KERRY: "I went to Cambodia with the CIA and all I got was a hat")
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To: Pikamax

Now his repeated claim that he also weathered combat upriver in Cambodia has drawn harsh skepticism — driven by anti-Kerry veterans who star in a political commercial and book financed by Texas Republicans.

WTF! ?


5 posted on 08/14/2004 12:27:46 AM PDT by Remington Rebel
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To: Pikamax

Sorry if I sound naive, but wouldn't it be very easy to verfify his whereabouts in January of 69? Who was he with, etc...


6 posted on 08/14/2004 12:33:15 AM PDT by Jenya (Removed a brutal dictator, liberated millions....our thriving economy....Yep, it's Bush's fault.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Nobody is "quibbling",but Kerry and his band of losers are spinning like dervishes.
7 posted on 08/14/2004 12:35:43 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"Christmas, January, these were absolutely interchangeable."


8 posted on 08/14/2004 12:37:07 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
And seared... SEARED into his brain. LOL
9 posted on 08/14/2004 12:38:21 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pikamax

It's making the rounds!


10 posted on 08/14/2004 12:49:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: nopardons

"And seared... SEARED into his brain. LOL"

It is apparent that his little brain was not "seared" sufficiently in times past.

I suggest that we take up donations that his little brain is properly seared that these hallucinations are no longer revisited.

Blessings, Bobo.


11 posted on 08/14/2004 1:06:03 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: bobo1

Oh,I think that Nov.2 will be the antidote to his poor,wee brain problems. :-)


12 posted on 08/14/2004 1:09:26 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Bush with 54% of the vote or more.

Blessings, Bobo


13 posted on 08/14/2004 1:15:31 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: bobo1
Sounds good to me! :-)

And bless you too.

14 posted on 08/14/2004 1:21:42 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Pikamax

"We're quibbling over these details..."

We're quibbling over these details because they go a long way to proving that not only was he a liar 30+ years ago but that he has continued to leave a trail of lies throughout his political career.


15 posted on 08/14/2004 1:36:45 AM PDT by Humbug (please don't read this tag yet...it's not quite ready)
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To: Pikamax
“My good luck hat,” Kerry told the Post. “Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia.”

Am I the only one who is constantly reminded of the Eddie Murphy character in "Trading Places"?

"...yeah, I was in Sang-Bang, Gang-Gong, Special-Unit-Aiborne Batallion,...my name was Agent Orange, yeah Agent Orange."

16 posted on 08/14/2004 2:02:48 AM PDT by Watery Tart (John Kerry--the other white meat)
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To: Pikamax

“We're quibbling over these details"

The devil is in the details, the man's a lying sach of s---.
Why would anyone support this traitor?


17 posted on 08/14/2004 3:55:30 AM PDT by gakrak
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To: nopardons
And seared... SEARED into his brain. LOL

and critical turning point in his life.
18 posted on 08/14/2004 4:09:12 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: Pikamax

bump


19 posted on 08/14/2004 4:44:36 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry and The Taxocrates must be defeated! "Kerry wasn't in Cambodia before he was in Cambodia.")
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To: Pikamax

20 posted on 08/14/2004 4:49:28 AM PDT by Nick Danger (www.swiftvets.com)
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