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Bush ‘riots’ may backfire on Kerry
The Sunday Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 08/21/2004 4:43:05 PM PDT by MadIvan

AT the corner of 10th Street and Second Avenue, an angry New Yorker was haranguing passers-by about “1,000 body bags coming home from Iraq”.

In a park nearby another man, inexplicably attired in a red minidress, handed out invitations to a “war crimes tribunal” where President George W Bush would be “judged by the American people”.

Both men later appeared in St Mark’s church where more than 150 radical political activists had gathered last week to compare notes on a packed agenda of marches, rallies and protests timed to coincide with Bush’s arrival in Manhattan for next week’s Republican convention.

There is a hint of revolution in the streets of New York, but the organisers of what may be one of the biggest anti-government demonstrations in America since the 1960s are wrestling with a dilemma. They may end up helping Bush rather than hurting him.

Far from embracing the rebellion against Republican rule, Democratic officials are keeping their distance from a potentially explosive grassroots upheaval that may prove to be dangerously counterproductive for Senator John Kerry, the Democratic challenger, whose lead in the opinion polls has begun to melt away after a series of attacks on his Vietnam war record.

Some of Kerry’s aides and many of his supporters fear that scenes of radical mayhem in New York will alienate moderate swing voters who may associate any extremist turmoil with the Democrat campaign. “The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,” warned Norman Mailer, the writer who is one of New York’s best-known liberals.

At St Mark’s last week, activists emphasised their commitment to non-violent protest. One anarchist group will hold a tea party outside the mayor’s mansion; other events include a “Books not Bombs youth convergence”, a “hip-hop protest and party” and a public reading of the American constitution.

The centrepiece of a “week of resistance” will be a march on Madison Square Garden, where Bush will deliver a closing address after four days of Republican celebration. Organisers expect at least 250,000 people to march and newspapers have given dire accounts of potential anarchist disruption. One leaked police document warned that protest tactics might include fire bombs, acid throwing and attacks with nail-studded potatoes.

A sense of looming confrontation was heightened when the New York Police Department unveiled its latest riot control gadgets, including helicopters with “night sun” lights to illuminate streets at night, bulletproof personnel carriers and a “mega megaphone” that can broadcast across several city blocks.

At the back of many Democrat minds are memories of their party’s 1968 convention in Chicago, when rioting against the Vietnam war was widely seen as having damaged the campaign of Hubert Humphrey, the party’s presidential nominee who crashed to defeat against Richard Nixon.

Most protests next week will focus on a different war — in Iraq — but to the chagrin of increasing numbers of Democrats, lingering divisions over Vietnam are continuing to dominate the presidential race.

Kerry’s decision to make his Vietnam war record the centrepiece of his run for the White House has embroiled the Democratic challenger in an increasingly vicious battle over his time as the young commander of a US Navy Swift patrol boat.

A bestselling book by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT) has accused Kerry of lying about several key incidents during his service and denounced him for “betraying” fellow veterans when he turned against the war.

Heavily financed by Republican sympathisers close to Bush, the group has also produced a television advertisement that appears to have provoked a sharp decline in support for Kerry among veterans. A second attacking Kerry’s post-war record was unveiled on Friday.

Kerry filed a formal complaint to stop the advertisements this weekend, claiming the SBVT has been acting as a front for the Bush campaign.

Despite evidence that the veterans group is politically motivated and that several members have lied or contradicted themselves, the affair has swamped the Democratic campaign.

While Kerry has aggressively rebutted accusations he did not deserve his medals, he remains in trouble over an old claim that he spent Christmas 1968 under fire after being illegally ordered into Cambodia. In their book Unfit for Command, Swift Boat veterans allege Kerry never visited Cambodia.

In one poll last week the “bounce” that Kerry had received from the Democratic convention last month had shrunk to a one point lead over Bush. A survey by CBS showed Kerry’s support among veterans had fallen; having been tied with Bush at 46% a month ago, he now trails by 18 points.

Next week it will be Bush’s turn to bounce and many New York Democrats are painfully aware that the president may be propelled even higher should rioting erupt on the streets. “Do the activists know what they are going into?” asked Mailer in New York magazine. “Or do they assume that expressing their rage is equal to getting Kerry elected? It could have exactly the opposite effect.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: backfire; convention; gwb2004; kerry; lefties; riots; rnc; rncconvention
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To: McGavin999

All it takes is video of one flag-burning outside and Bush takes the election. In Boston, it happened but wasn't publicized or televised because the protests were rather lame.


21 posted on 08/21/2004 5:10:05 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: MadIvan
The Swiftees are NOT in any way subsidized nor affiliated with the GOP/RNC;unlike the connection between the Dems and MoveOn etc.!

Kerry wants it to still be 1968,or 1972,so he'll have to live with the flap over his lies.

It appears that "THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW HISTORY,ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT",holds true. LOL

Every protester,every little anarchist and old hippie,are going to deliver a landslide for Bush.They just can't control themselves,no matter WHAT some "cooler heads" say.They will,unfortunately,do something terrible.And yes,as the shouted ,as some silly battle cry,in 1968,THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING. Fat lot of "good" it them back then.... and it'll generate reaction in 2004! LOL

22 posted on 08/21/2004 5:11:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MadIvan
Anarchists are going to have a tea party??!!???? I think I'd vote "anyone but Kerry" just so I wouldn't even be remotely connected to such a silly idea.

I mean, jeeesssh! And we are to take them seriously?

23 posted on 08/21/2004 5:14:19 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: MadIvan

I was worried about the protests. now I am rather looking forward to them *g*


24 posted on 08/21/2004 5:15:24 PM PDT by SonlitKnight
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To: MadIvan
One anarchist group will hold a tea party outside the mayor’s mansion; other events include a “Books not Bombs youth convergence”, a “hip-hop protest and party” and a public reading of the American constitution.

This is my favorite part. If they are anarchists, what do they care what the Constitution says? I'm sure I'm not the only person who sees the irony here.
25 posted on 08/21/2004 5:15:27 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Rokke
The quote you refer to is the worst but this one Heavily financed by Republican sympathisers close to Bush, the group has also produced a television advertisement that appears to have provoked a sharp decline in support for Kerry among veterans also shows the Times deep sympathies for Kerry.

I give it a "C", tops.

Prairie

26 posted on 08/21/2004 5:15:52 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: MadIvan
The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,”

Not a big thing to do, 'cause THEY ARE!!

27 posted on 08/21/2004 5:17:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I want to die in my sleep like Gramps -- not yelling and screaming like those in his car)
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To: conshack
Let's see, acid and nail studded potatoes. This ought to show just how dims play the political game. Sadly, if this were to happen, there will be some pubbies that will be paying the ultimate price.

And don't forget the marbles they plan on throwing under the police horses' feet. They should be tarred and feathered for even thinking of such a thing.

God help them if they do this in front of a Republican 2nd Amendment horse lover!

28 posted on 08/21/2004 5:17:22 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: MadIvan

Good post. I work in NYC and live in the borough of Queens and I have talked to the people here and they DO NOT want the protestors here. And they are Democrats. They know that most of the protestors are not from NYC and that makes them even more madder that they would invade NY and start trouble. Don't be surprised if you read about typical NYers taking on the Protestors!


29 posted on 08/21/2004 5:25:25 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: MadIvan
At St Mark's last week, activists emphasised their commitment to non-violent protest. One anarchist group will hold a tea party outside the mayor's mansion; other events include a Books not Bombs youth convergence, a hip-hop protest and party and a public reading of the American constitution.

Sheesh, what a bunch of losers. The Democrat party has turned into such a joke. If they wonder why they can't seem to find their "center," it's because they truly don't have one. They're a loose amalgamation of splinter groups, each one formed around a core of hating something. They're a repulsive bunch of misfits.

MM

30 posted on 08/21/2004 5:26:20 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: MadIvan
“The Republicans will do all they can to make the street protesters look like the disruptive, concealed and explosive heart of the Democratic party,” warned Norman Mailer, the writer who is one of New York’s best-known liberals.

They won't even have to break a sweat to get that job done. The protesters will do it for them!

31 posted on 08/21/2004 5:27:18 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: MadIvan
"Kerry filed a formal complaint to stop the advertisements this weekend, claiming the SBVT has been acting as a front for the Bush campaign."

Censorship!

Bush never tried to censor Fahrenheit 9/11! What's Kerry afraid of--the truth? And the Democrats gave Michael Moore a "seat of honor" at the Democrat National Convention!

32 posted on 08/21/2004 5:31:54 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush!)
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To: MadIvan

"Despite evidence that the veterans group is politically motivated and that several members have lied or contradicted themselves, the affair has swamped the Democratic campaign."

Ummmm...aren't political ads USUALLY politically motivated?


33 posted on 08/21/2004 5:36:47 PM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
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To: 3catsanadog
I mean, jeeesssh! And we are to take them seriously?

I have read tooooo many articles where the liberal protestors are given all the news space and if we're lucky the consertive protestors are given the 'token' last paragraph. The media sucks. Don't ever trust reporters.

34 posted on 08/21/2004 5:47:03 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Made in USA
What if Al-Qaeda hit NY with a dirty bomb and thousands were killed during the opening of the convention?

The chances of them pulling off something big at the convention are very low. They haven't been able to do anthing for almost 3 years, and for them now to do something where the security will be the most intense is very unlikely.

35 posted on 08/21/2004 5:47:40 PM PDT by ItIsATigerIMarried
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To: MadIvan
Kerry’s decision to make his Vietnam war record the centrepiece of his run for the White House has embroiled the Democratic challenger in an increasingly vicious battle over his time as the young commander of a US Navy Swift patrol boat.

Kerry asked for it. He invited the scrutiny.

And the Bush campaign can stay with Kerry's Senate record....Something Kerry is also trying to avoid.

36 posted on 08/21/2004 5:49:47 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: nopardons; MadIvan; All

Is there a way to find out who is financially backing any of the (so far)"announced anarchists attendees"??

I hope it's not too late to "search" for info on AS MANY OF THEM AS CAN POSSIBLY BE DONE ASAP this soon before the RNC convention, before they "scrub" their sites (like kerry has done) to try to cover up any "ties,lies,or trails" that lead back to the dnc and kerry.

With all the very quickly growing "complaints" to the FEC, and the "6 degrees of separation" game with GWB substituting for Kevin Bacon, the dems & their 527's,and all the "anti-Bush" & "trouble-making" financially backed dnc "black-ops" groups are "shreading and deleting" 24/7.

IMHO...as I type this, I'd wager the "word" is out to ALL dem groups to make sure they are "found to be clean" so they won't have any "problems", even "little ones",like the SV "flyer" that was
"found" by a "everyday normal citizen" in a RNC campaign "site" in FLA.....


37 posted on 08/21/2004 5:54:32 PM PDT by musicman
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To: Rokke

Evidently, you don't understand the definition of the verb "to lie." In liberal lingo, it means "to tell the truth" or "to contradict enemy propaganda."


38 posted on 08/21/2004 5:58:24 PM PDT by dufekin (Elect John F. Kerry,and let our enemies party like it's 1969 when he began his treason.)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm still scratching my head over nail-studded potatoes.
Me too - but if pressed I'd think they're cheap but painful "baseballs" to zing at the police. :-(
39 posted on 08/21/2004 6:01:48 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (What's this for? Oh. ;-))
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To: MadIvan
Democratic officials are keeping their distance from a potentially explosive grassroots upheaval that may prove to be dangerously counterproductive for Senator John Kerry,

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Considering Lurch's activities back in 1971, he's just one of them.

40 posted on 08/21/2004 6:07:58 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graff post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Cut funding and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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