Skip to comments.John's Kerry's Military Service Record
Posted on 09/05/2004 2:59:39 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
Sincere thanks to Chosin Few member Hector Cafferata, MOH, F/2/7 for forwarding the enlightening communication which follows.
If anyone still believes John Kerry is an honorable Navy Veteran, the following should remove any remaining doubt.
Thank God he did not attempt to enlist in our beloved Marine Corps.
SAEPE EXERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATER INFINITAS
"Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever"
United States Marine Corps
Even I'm getting tired of learning all of the rotten stuff about Kerry but it's best that we know. I pray that many Kerry supporters are beginning to understand why he would not serve the nation well.
John Kerry does not want his service record questioned. This is the reason why.
Subject: Hanoi John's Military Service On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive . On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy. 2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate. 3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam. 4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA. 5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath . to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
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Is there any statue of limitations on bringing Kerry up on charges of sedition?
It has been posted, and several Freepers responded, saying that it is a red herring. Apparently, Vietnam veterans were not really expected to report for reserve duty. It would not have set well with them to have to stand in formations with, and take orders from, people who hadn't gone, and might not have to go.
Their advice was to drop this line of accusation.
Treason by a Naval officer in time of war is not considered serious for a democrat. Why such a fuss? :)
We know this, however the press does not care or do not know.
It doesn't matter if this information is true if it is buried where the majority of voters will never learn of it.
How can this man be the leader of our country??
Kerry's Reserve status -- Kerry's release from active duty orders state that he was transferred into the Inactive Reserves and was not obligated to attend any drills. His only obligation was to keep the Navy informed of his whereabouts since he was subject to recall. On 1 July 1972 Kerry was transferred into the Standby Reserve (Inactive) and then received his Honorable Discharge in 16 Feb 1978. The Navy's 24 May 1986 letter to Kerry gives a good synopsis of Kerry's service.
I can recall a similar timeframe for my naval career. I had served almost eight years, but it was years later until I was finally discharged. I had a regular commission, but I was transferred into the Naval Reserves (inactive) and then Standby Reserves. I can recall that I was sent some sort of letter asking me if I wished to continue my service in the Standby Reserves. In any event, I wouldn't make too much of Kerry's status as he moved through the Reserve process.
There are several issues that need to be raised relative to Kerry's Reserve status. Kerry met with the Vietnamese Communists in Paris, per his sworn testimony before the Senate, while still being a member of the Naval Reserves subject to recall. He returned and advocated acceptance of the Communists' negotiating points. Kerry also participated in the VVAW as a national officer and was involved in the infamous Kansas City meeting where discussions were held about assassinating USG officials. The question is whether Kerry was violating the UCMJ or federal statute by being involved in these activities while still serving in the Reserves and being subject to recall.
What I found curious on Kerry's initial website many months ago was the fact that he listed his military service as 1966-1970-Active Duty and 1972-78-Reserves. He conveniently left a gap between 1970-72, which I can only believe was done intentionally so as not to raise questions. Currently, his service timeline no longer includes his reserve service. Curiously, it ends with the following: April 29, 1970 Kerry listed as Registrant who has completed service. John Kerry for President - John Kerry's Vietnam Service Timeline
I have no idea what listed as a Registrant means because Kerry remained a member of the inactive Reserves until he was transferred into the Standby Reserves on July 1, 1972. This could be a smokescreen to inoculate Kerry from charges that he was giving aid and comfort to the enemy while still being a member of the Reserves. We definitely need more information on this one.
Which begs the satirical question:
When does a Democrat consider treason to be serious?
My question is this. The email states that Kerry got his discharge in 2001, but on his website there is an honorable discharge issued in 1978. February 16.
I find it interesting the the Presidential Unit Citation was on the DD215 from 2000 and wonder when it was actually awarded. There are too many documents missing from Kerry's record. He is obviously hiding a lot of stuff.
What are the sources for communist funding of VVAW? Are they available on the internet? If so, please post url.
Do you have the aliases of these "several freepers"? Who were they?
I don't think that is true, Rocky. My ex-husband was in the naval reserves and served a 1 yr tour of duty in Vietnam. He also went to reserve meetings until he was discharged. I think it was a 6 yr commitment.
I guess it is time to get my feet wet (lurked around here long enough).
found at: http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Service_Record.pdf
This is the Enclosure (1) to some document that was dated January 25, 1985. It was written by LCDR D. W. Meyers, Office of Legal Counsel, Naval Military Personnel Command. It shows dates of different events.
Here's an excerpt from the .pdf file:
D.O.R as LT, USNR 1 January 1970
Release from ACDU/
Trf to Naval Reserve 3 January 1970
Trf to Standby Reserve - Inactive 1 July 1972
Discharged for U.S. Naval Reserve 16 February 1978
Is there any statue of limitations on bringing Kerry up on charges of sedition?
Under the UCMJ - and Hanoi John is liable to it - there is no statute of limitations for any crime receiving the death penalty. These include Hanoi Johns sedition and treason.
Has the Navy issued a formal statement yet on Kerry?
They were investigating how he earned medals in record time.
Has anyone ever seen an SPN in any of his paperwork?
I will bow out after this, because it is certainly not an area of my expertise, but here are some posts to one thread. There was another thread today that was even closer to the content of the current thread and had similar replies. I couldn't quickly locate it. I don't know what the right answer is on this issue - that is, was Kerry in violation of the UCMJ in 1971?
Thanks, Rocky. Hope you don't bow out. :)
Maybe he has a loophole for being awol, but that doesn't excuse him for the treason. and violation which technicly prevent him from even holding a senate seat.
This is straight out of Unfit For Command.
Hanoi john is UNFIT for COMMAND or being the President of the U. S. of America.
It does not matter what was expected of VietNam vets. Apparently, missing a National Guard meeting and making it up later was pretty common in Bush's unit.
What matters is did Kerry live up to THE LETTER of his obligation. They started this with whether or not Bush lived up to the letter not the spirit of his obligation. That is their standard and Kerry better have met it or this will be an issue.
When it's commited by a Republican...
This is very interesting ....but who plans to go after him on this??? Its Not a real good idea for the GOP'ers to do this. This will look really bad if we do.
...527's are 'all the rage' this season.
FReepers are key in getting the word out about the righteousness of the SBVFT by exposing Kerry's FRAUD.
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Swiftee window sticker thread - get yours! Freep mail for details.
The DD-215 is a form which is used to correct the DD-214, which is his separation from active duty.
Many times, awards are made "after the fact". For instance, my DD-214 from my service in Korea qualifies me for four awards. Since that time, at least six awards to which I am qualified have been added.
I didn't ask for a DD-215 but if I had, many if not all would have been added to it.
I suspect that the Unit Citation was awarded after he was separated but included the time that he served in the unit. You might want to investigate it, but it will probably be a dry hole.
Yeah, I know. My husband just submitted his request for some unit citations that he didn't know about.
In Kerry's case, at least one of them was signed by Richard Nixon. I was just hoping. :)
U.S. Constitution Amendment XIV
Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States,
shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
John F. Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files
Bye Bye Kerry!!!!
You don't think we still pay any attention to that old piece of paper, do you? < /sarcasm>
BTTT! Time to release those records like President Bush, John boy!
I always have appreciated a bit of sarcasm.
Still, at this level, Kerry's actions have been consistently appalling.
Bye Bye Kerry ~ Bump!
While a senior at Yale, Kerry asked his draft board for permission to study a year in Paris, which the draft board declined. A Slate article reported that Kerry wrote in a 1986 book,Maybe he wasn't so enthusiastic?
"[The Swift Boats] were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing. Although I wanted to see for myself what was going on, I didn't really want to get involved in the war." --John Kerry timeline
All that is needed is to show what Kerry was doing when, and how it relates to 'treason' and Constitutional law.
Pray for W and Our Troops
Who decides Kerry gave aid and comfort? A court?
Does this explain the 1978 discharge?
1966 + 6 years active + 5 years BNaval reserve + 1 year inactive reserve = 1978
Not so fast. Bush has not signed an SF 180 either. He is releasing his own records just like Kerry.