New Defense Against RPGs

UDLP Website | 9/08/2004 | UDLP

[muleskinner]

United Defense Defeats RPGs with Close-In Counter Measure Active Protection System On Sept. 8, United Defense Industries announced that its Close-In Counter Measure (CICM) active protection system successfully intercepted and destroyed incoming Rocket Propelled Grenades (RPGs) during end-to-end testing at the U.S. Army’s Redstone Technical Test Center at Redstone Arsenal, Ala.

In successful end-to-end tests, the United Defense CICM system detected launched RPGs, tracked incoming rockets, launched its countermeasures and defeated RPGs before they reached the protected system.

"This successful counter-RPG mission was accomplished in less than nine months through targeted research and development efforts and rapid prototyping capabilities by United Defense and its teammates to quickly develop a successful, affordable near-term counter to RPGs," said Carl Sullinger, CICM Program Manager. "We expect to offer the CICM system to the U.S. military as a force protection measure for our fighting forces in combat while providing a fully compatible path with active defense suites for future systems."

[Squantos]

Cannoneer gone sick or worse ?!?!?!?!?

Anyone know how this works ? Is it a metal storm phalanx thang that'll trash troops in the line of fire etc ??

Stay safe !

[fso301]

Quietly manufacture 100,000 RPG rounds that are DESIGNED to detonate when the launcher's trigger is pulled. Then equally quietly put them up for sale in the Kosovo-Syria-Pakistan-Iran-Saudi arms markets.

This was done in the Cold War.

[snippy_about_it]

Cannoneer has gone off to work in Afghanistan. Bequeathed the ping list to me a couple weeks ago on the Tuesday Foxhole Treadhead thread, his other armor ping list he left for Darksheare.

He should have internet access by 9/18 or soon after and perhaps he will get a post in on FR somewhere. :-)

We pray for his safety.

[VOA]

bump

[Zeroisanumber]

The Russians and the US gave them out like they were candy back during the Cold War. They have a long shelf life, require little maintainance, and are cheap as hell to buy on the Black Market. In short: The Knuckleheads aren't going to run out anytime soon.

[jwalsh07]

How much does an RPG cost????? anybody known ?

A dinar a dozen.

[neverdem]

Stories like this I put on the banglist. Consider it done. Great Post!

[Squantos]

Second that.......DOD or Contractor ?........or maybe none of my business........:o)

If he checks in tell him I wish him well.......Stay safe !

[neverdem]

BANG, are you guys on the treadhead list? I didn't notice your names on the original list typed up by Cannoneer no. 4. I must have been added after he typed up the original.

[SLB]

FWIW tomorrow morning I am setting in on an armor lessons learned in Iraq seminar. I will post some information out of it sometime in the next few days. The briefing is unclassified, but I will not post anything that could be used by the rag heads.

[bunkerhill7]

RPG-7 Penetration Armor= 330 mm

Muzzle Velocity = 140(m/s)

mass= 4.4lb

ergo 4.4 x v = 2020 ftlbs.

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water cannon:

velocity at muzzle =120 m/sec

min/max agent per impulse shot = 3.0 / 12.0 liter

12 liter mass = 25lbs

25 lbs. x v ft/sec = 9840 ft/lb.

at 9840 ft/lb for water cannon vs 2020 ft/lb for rpg's, with sound beamforming targeting, could deflect or stop rpg's?

http://www.tenix.com/Main.asp?ID=467

[Darksheare]

Here's the treadhead list at last revision that I had:
archy; Gringo1; Matthew James; Fred Mertz; Squantos; colorado tanker; The Shrew; SLB; Darksheare; BCR #226; IDontLikeToPayTaxes; Imacatfish; Tailback; DCBryan1; Eaker; Archangelsk; gatorbait; river rat; alfa6; Lee'sGhost; Dionysius; BlueLancer; Frohickey; leadpenny; skepsel; Proud Legions; ExSoldier; King Prout; Professional Engineer;alfa6 ; bluelancer; cannoneer No.4 ; An Old Man; DMZFrank; hookman;in the Arena;GregB;Bethbg79;MoJo2001;Radix

I know there are more supposed to be on it.
Who has the up to date list so far?

[Squantos]

Understand........ I'm just wondering if this uses projectiles in a claymore fashion then I'd hate for it to miss me and the APC behind me "detected" it before I could duck twice per se...... or was near an APC conducting overwatch mission for door kickers and alley apes.....

Stay safe !

[neverdem]

I believe snippy_about_it has it. I noticed my name on 2nd glance.

[Travis McGee]

Yep, there's something about projectiles fired automatically, while I might be in front of them! Still, good to see the R&D.

[dts32041]

That was done with hand grenades in Viet Nam. Worked about four times then just turned into booby traps.

[Squantos]

Agree but I'm one whos glass is neither half full or half empty........just too big a glass when it comes to R&D, new and improved promises etc.

Stay safe !

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks. Give me a ping when you post.

[snippy_about_it]

Let's compare Darksheare. Cannoneer had a treadhead and an armor I think. I'll freepmail you what he gave me.

[Robert Drobot]

I want one.