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"The Bush "Guard memos" are forgeries!"
FlounderCraft Ltd. ^ | September 11, 2004 | Joseph M. Newcomer Phd.

Posted on 09/13/2004 3:27:03 AM PDT by MMkennedy

First off, before I start getting a lot of the wrong kind of mail: I am not a fan of George Bush. But I am even less a fan of attempts to commit fraud, and particularly by a complete and utter failure of those we entrust to ensure that if the news is at least accurate. I know it is asking far too much to expect the news to be unbiased. But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence.

There has been a lot of activity on the Internet recently concerning the forged CBS documents. I do not even dignify this statement with the traditional weasel-word “alleged”, because it takes approximately 30 seconds for anyone who is knowledgeable in the history of electronic document production to recognize this whole collection is certainly a forgery, and approximately five minutes to prove to anyone technically competent that the documents are a forgery. I was able to replicate two of the documents within a few minutes. At time I a writing this, CBS is stonewalling. They were hoaxed, pure and simple. CBS failed to exercise anything even approximately like due diligence. I am not sure what sort of "expert" they called in to authenticate the document, but anything I say about his qualifications to judge digital typography is likely to be considered libelous (no matter how true they are) and I would not say them in print in a public forum.

I am one of the pioneers of electronic typesetting. I was doing work with computer typesetting technology in 1972 (it actually started in late 1969), and I personally created one of the earliest typesetting programs for what later became laser printers, but in 1970 when this work was first done, lasers were not part of the electronic printer technology (my way of expressing this is “I was working with laser printers before they had lasers”, which is only a mild stretch of the truth). We published a paper about our work (graphics, printer hardware, printer software, and typesetting) in one of the important professional journals of the time (D.R. Reddy, W. Broadley, L.D. Erman, R. Johnsson, J. Newcomer, G. Robertson, and J. Wright, "XCRIBL: A Hardcopy Scan Line Graphics System for Document Generation," Information Processing Letters (1972, pp.246-251)). I have been involved in many aspects of computer typography, including computer music typesetting (1987-1990). I have personally created computer fonts, and helped create programs that created computer fonts. At one time in my life, I was a certified Adobe PostScript developer, and could make laser printers practically stand up and tap dance. I have written about Microsoft Windows font technology in a book I co-authored, and taught courses in it. I therefore assert that I am a qualified expert in computer typography...


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This very detailed analysis sited by The Kerry Spot this morning (Sept 13, 2004)
1 posted on 09/13/2004 3:27:03 AM PDT by MMkennedy
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Indisputable Proof the CBS/Rather Memos are Forgeries!
  Posted by AKSurprise
On News/Activism 09/13/2004 1:37:49 AM CDT · 21 replies · 868+ views


FlounderCraft Ltd. ^ | JOSEPH M. NEWCOMER, PH.D.
"I am one of the pioneers of electronic typesetting. I was doing work with computer typesetting technology in 1972 (it actually started in late 1969), and I personally created one of the earliest typesetting programs for what later became laser printers, personally created computer fonts, and helped create programs that created computer fonts." "I was a certified Adobe PostScript developer" " I have written about Microsoft Windows font technology in a book I co-authored, and taught courses in it. I therefore assert that I am a qualified expert in computer typography." "The probability that any technology in existence in 1972...
 

The Bush "Guard memos" are forgeries! (Nonpartisan printing expert weighs in)
  Posted by not_apathetic_anymore
On News/Activism 09/12/2004 4:34:43 PM CDT · 126 replies · 3,995+ views


flounder.com ^ | Joseph M. Newcomer
First off, before I start getting a lot of the wrong kind of mail: I am not a fan of George Bush. But I am even less a fan of attempts to commit fraud, and particularly by a complete and utter failure of those we entrust to ensure that if the news is at least accurate. I know it is asking far too much to expect the news to be unbiased. But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence.... This is a long page with many graphics...click on...
 

The Bush Guard memos are forgeries ('authoritative & definitive analysis' per PowerLine)
  Posted by Cableguy
On News/Activism 09/13/2004 1:47:15 AM CDT · 17 replies · 434+ views


Flounder.com ^ | 9/12/04 | Joseph M. Newcomer
First off, before I start getting a lot of the wrong kind of mail: I am not a fan of George Bush. But I am even less a fan of attempts to commit fraud, and particularly by a complete and utter failure of those we entrust to ensure that if the news is at least accurate. I know it is asking far too much to expect the news to be unbiased. But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence. There has been a lot of activity on the...

3 posted on 09/13/2004 3:29:24 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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To: Keith in Iowa

Sorry, I'm a newbie poster and didn't see all the previous threads


4 posted on 09/13/2004 3:30:45 AM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: MMkennedy

I wonder how Dan Blather likes his crow, fried, or baked?


5 posted on 09/13/2004 3:30:51 AM PDT by gunnygail (Founding member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. (I operate the minigun, more fun):.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

you have to remember that Dan Rather has a 6TH sense about these things. (he sees memos from dead people)


6 posted on 09/13/2004 3:32:11 AM PDT by bdfromlv (leavenworth hard time)
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Honest mistake, MMkennedy, and in this instance, it's for the good. This guy "flounder" deserves mucho many hits, the more exposure he gets, is fine by me.
7 posted on 09/13/2004 3:35:51 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@CBS = In On The Fix.com)
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To: MMkennedy
The story Dan Rather did on Wednesday night on CBS 60 minutes was wrong? Dan Rather used fake documents? NO WAY i cant believe that the integrity of a CBS to totally run fake documents is beyond them... :)
8 posted on 09/13/2004 3:37:18 AM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: YaYa123

Katie, and Kitty, are next....


9 posted on 09/13/2004 3:37:30 AM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: FesterUSMC

September 13, 2004

Andrew Heyward, President
CBS News
524- West 57th St
New York, NY 10019
Fax#: (212) 975-1893

RE: Attempted Bush Smear Job on Sixty Minutes II

Dear Mr. Heyward:

Now that your CBS News division has elected to allow Mr. Rather to take the approach that the story was correct and that you are standing by it, you have essentially allowed him to “double the bet” while continuing to hold a losing hand.

Without strong leadership from someone at the top, like you, to remove Mr. Rather from his position, your network is going to lose every bit of credibility that you worked for half a century to build up.

Is one man’s maniacal obsession to bring down a sitting President, no matter the cost, worth the reputation of your entire network news division?

The sooner you act, the less the damage which is already substantial. Draft the letter and fire this discredited partisan “journalist”.

Sincerely,

Rob XXXXX


10 posted on 09/13/2004 3:39:46 AM PDT by RobFromGa (A desperate man is a dangerous man, and Kerry is getting desperate.)
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To: ken5050

Come on Matt, show us what you got!


11 posted on 09/13/2004 3:42:07 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@CBS = In On The Fix.com)
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To: RobFromGa; All

Y'all sure this guy knows what he's talking about?


12 posted on 09/13/2004 3:42:43 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: MMkennedy
Joseph M. Newcomer Phd.: "I know it is asking far too much to expect the news to be unbiased. But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence."

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This idiot needs to take his head out of the computer for a few minutes and smell the flowers!

"But the people involved should not actually lie to us, or promulgate lies created by hoaxers, through their own incompetence."??

What if "the people involved" are the enemies of the state? Is it okay then?

Incompetence my butt!

13 posted on 09/13/2004 3:42:57 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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>>>Sorry, I'm a newbie poster and didn't see all the previous threads

No problem. The search box is your friend, sort of - check what two words the previous postings have in common - that's what I did the search on.

Enjoy yourself here...
14 posted on 09/13/2004 3:45:24 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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To: RobFromGa

Rob, do you mind if I send this post to my local talk show here in Augusta? That would be Austin Rhodes of WGAC 580 AM.


15 posted on 09/13/2004 3:53:02 AM PDT by my right
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To: MMkennedy

I am not a fan of George Bush.

This statement right here negates any intelligence in this article.


16 posted on 09/13/2004 3:53:24 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: ken5050
Katie, and Kitty, are next....

Oh, how I'd love to see them grilled for their perpetration of all these lies, too.

Idiots.

17 posted on 09/13/2004 3:55:34 AM PDT by Allegra (This Message was Typed with a Selectric II)
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To: RobFromGa

May Mapes will be fired.

Blather will resign.


18 posted on 09/13/2004 3:57:01 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (The plural for RAT is RATS, not RATICS)
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To: PokeyJoe

Just about 5 years ago, CNN withdrew the "Tailwind" story...the paid the producer and reporter millions to just go away..


19 posted on 09/13/2004 3:58:39 AM PDT by ken5050 (Bill Clinton has just signed to be the national spokesman for Hummer..)
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To: garylmoore
This statement right here negates any intelligence in this article.

No, it doesn't. It's one of the most detailed, devastating studies of the memos I've seen yet.

20 posted on 09/13/2004 4:03:48 AM PDT by Rocko ( Dan Rather: "I'm GUILTY! GUILTY! GUILTY!")
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