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The Democratic Party is Toast
washingtonmonthly.com ^ | September 2004 | Grover Norquist

Posted on 09/26/2004 10:40:57 AM PDT by mjp

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1 posted on 09/26/2004 10:40:57 AM PDT by mjp
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2 posted on 09/26/2004 10:42:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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It's by Clinton's design (both Hillary and Bill). With the democrats in tatters, she will be able to take over as its head next election. They did this on purpose so they can look like moderates and Americans will trust them.


3 posted on 09/26/2004 10:45:38 AM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Believe it when you see it.


4 posted on 09/26/2004 10:46:04 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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Norquist is an apologist for islam and jihad. He is a disgrace to conservatism. He should be shunned.
5 posted on 09/26/2004 10:47:15 AM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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I agree. Norquist is to the conservative cause what KKK Byrd is to the liberals. He has discredited himself. He has sold his birthright for Arab money.


6 posted on 09/26/2004 10:48:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Thank you for this post. I disagree with this exceeedingly eloquent and carefully reasoned essay, only in that I believe the democrat party to be extremely dangerous for many years to come. I plan to benchmark Grover Norquist for future reading. He is excellent.


7 posted on 09/26/2004 10:49:00 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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BushCheney win in '04 means a debate on eliminating forever the income tax and the 16th amendment too


8 posted on 09/26/2004 10:50:42 AM PDT by Chilldoubt
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To: Urbane_Guerilla; montag813
Norquist is an apologist for islam and jihad. He is a disgrace to conservatism. He should be shunned.

That is SO true. See this article at Two Conservative Republicans Vying for NJ Gov: One Has Controversial Arab-American Ties; the Other Just Twinned His City with Beit El in the Sept. 2004 magazine which shows how Norquist et al is compromising politicians.

9 posted on 09/26/2004 10:55:37 AM PDT by Ziva (Steve Lonegan for NJ Governor (loneganforgovernor.com))
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Bump, FYI


10 posted on 09/26/2004 10:56:15 AM PDT by Ziva (Steve Lonegan for NJ Governor (loneganforgovernor.com))
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The modern Democratic Party is the party of government. Its growth is the health of the state--and vice versa. Over time, all the party's building blocks are dependent on continuous support and reinforcement by the power of the central government. Trial lawyer money is now a major part of the Democratic Party, but it is wholly dependent on legislators and courts maintaining the present tort laws that allow lawyers to interject themselves into any and all contracts and relationships.

Actually it is much worse than the above indicates, because it isn't focused on the right place.

The democratic party is only as strong as it political professionals that work for the party during an election.

I know inside the beltway people who use to work for either in the offices of democratic congressmen on or as committee staff of democratic party controlled congressional committess. These types of people went from either staff for a single elected official to staff of a committee to partronage assignments when the Dem's controlled the whitehouse. They are fighting between themselves for fewer and fewer jobs in the DC area.

To make maters worse the old standby alternative, lobbying, has now under solid Republican control of the legislative and executive branches closed a lot of doors to Democrat lobbiests.

This is forcing a lot of the professional political party hacks/workers to go back to the states they came from and try to either get "real jobs" or to force them into small time (i.e. small salary) local partisan politicial jobs back home. They as a group are not happy campers and discussed that the party they have devoted much of their life to can no longer provide them with a "decent" standard of living.

These folks have been hanging on hoping that a Democrat will get elected to the whitehouse so that they can get partronage jobs in the executive branch. Many have taken out second mortgages to work in the Kerry Campaign or have been hammered by party officials to donate a significant amount of their salary from congressional staff jobs to the Kerry election campaign. If the Dem's loose more seats in the House and Senate and the winers cut back on partisan committee staff and the Executive branch stays in the hands of Republicans, you will see a mass migration out of the Washington DC area in November.

11 posted on 09/26/2004 10:59:41 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: SteveMcKing
It's by Clinton's design (both Hillary and Bill). With the democrats in tatters, she will be able to take over as its head next election. They did this on purpose so they can look like moderates and Americans will trust them.
There's more to it than that, but the Clintons are certainly a big factor.
12 posted on 09/26/2004 11:02:56 AM PDT by samtheman (www.swiftvets.com)
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I had a radical enviro nut case come to my door the other day. He started his spiel for donations by informing me that his organization was trying to undo all the damage Bush and Cheney have done to the environment.

Me: What damage? They haven't done any damage to the environment and you know it.

He: Obviously you don't want to see the truth.

Me: I'm asking you for the truth. What damage?

He: I don't need to waste my time with you.

Me: Hold on, YOU came to MY door. Now I ask you again, what damage?

He: I can't talk to someone who won't see the truth.

Me: Then give me the truth.

He: There's no point. You'll chose to believe lies.

Me: You came to my door making accusations about the president, I asked you for specifics and you can provide none.

He: Because you choose to ignore the truth.

About then it hit me, these people can no longer get away with lying about their causes. There is a great cleanser, deodorant let's call it, that will expose them as the frauds they are. I could have invited him into my house and within ten minutes of internet surfing gotten to the truth of the matter.

This is the MO of the Democrat party. But it doesn't wash anymore. Glad to see they're on their way out. Now let the real debate begin.

13 posted on 09/26/2004 11:03:24 AM PDT by groanup (Our kids sleep soundly because soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines stand ready to die for us.)
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"And the coercive utopians--the radical environmentalists, animal-rights activists, feminists, and others ..."

He forgot to mention the National Education Association.

14 posted on 09/26/2004 11:04:07 AM PDT by dano1
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To: Lazamataz

Appears to be an early ancestor of the Azgard.


15 posted on 09/26/2004 11:06:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("let them go naked for a while"...Theraaazaaaaa Heinz-Kerry)
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The dims are too screwed up to know they are toast. They will whine and blame everything and everyone but themselves.


16 posted on 09/26/2004 11:06:26 AM PDT by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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Oh, there will still be something called the Democratic party in 2008, probably still in 2040, and possibly even in 2100. But until they shed themselves of that apostasy that seized control of their party during and after the Viet Nam War, the "anti-war" faction, which in fact is only against SOME wars, they will flounder around forever as a minority party. They have made themselves as irrelevant as Whigs, or Prohibitionists, and for the same reasons - they do not, or cannot, address the issues that concern the greater number of Americans.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT FUNDING HEALTH INSURANCE! They DO care about how much health care costs, and getting quality care. But no government program yet proposed by the Democrats tackles the problem of making access to health care both less costly and more widely available. In essense, every proposal comes down to rationing what health care is available, and limits future medical advancements to only what is cheap, not what is good.


17 posted on 09/26/2004 11:06:33 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Robert357
I saw a similar article published no too long ago. My wife is a republican lobbyist and she is surrounded by democrat idios that make her life miserable.

To make maters worse the old standby alternative, lobbying, has now under solid Republican control of the legislative and executive branches closed a lot of doors to Democrat lobbyists. This is forcing a lot of the professional political party hacks/workers to go back to the states they came from and try to either get "real jobs" or to force them into small time (i.e. small salary) local partisan political jobs back home. They as a group are not happy campers and discussed that the party they have devoted much of their life to can no longer provide them with a "decent" standard of living.

18 posted on 09/26/2004 11:07:11 AM PDT by crushelits
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Largely well written yet too long.The people who really need to be educated aren't usually able to handle more than a paragraph.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 11:08:58 AM PDT by noodler
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this is more death rattle .... they brought it on them selves.. the hate ... and they are being used by the MSM and using at the same time...... there is just so much food to go around in the left wing and its all eaten up...

i hope they move to europe...... and stay...


20 posted on 09/26/2004 11:12:15 AM PDT by Gibtx (Wow)
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