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Where Bush and Kerry Were In the Days before the Debate.
Several Linked On thread | 10-3-04

Posted on 10/03/2004 7:14:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

Edited on 10/04/2004 2:16:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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These are small details that have been variously reported and glossed over, but they reveal something important about why George W. Bush should be reelected. Bush truly, deeply cares. He doesn't have to utter a Clintonian bromide such as "I feel your pain". He genuinely does and he acts on it. Bush showed up for people who needed to know someone powerful cared. It was perhaps unwise to take time away from debate prep to visit people who needed to see him. One could argue, I can't help anyone if I an not elected and debate prep is important, and that is true. It is true in the way self-serving operators always reckon such things, the way John Kerry reckons such things.
1 posted on 10/03/2004 7:14:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I feel sorry for people who can't understand the importance of character in our elected officials. To me there is just no comparison between the two presidential candidates. You either vote for integrity or against it.


2 posted on 10/03/2004 7:22:27 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Anti-Bubba182

And here is what President Bush did AFTER THE DEBATE:


Bush lights up stage
President discusses war and economy
By Joel Moroney
News Journal


MANSFIELD -- President Bush spoke about the economy on the Renaissance Theatre stage.

Backstage, he cried during an emotional and private meeting with the family of Army Spc. A.J. Vandayburg, who was killed in Iraq on April 9.

"He cried right with us and it was like the exclamation point on our whole year," said A.J.'s father, Mansfield police Lt. Allen Vandayburg. "He cried with my wife. He cried with my daughter. He hugged us. It wasn't president versus cop. It was father to father."

Allen Vandayburg, wife Chantil and daughter Taylor, 12, were ushered in to see Bush, who sent everyone out of the room, including his press staff and Secret Service agents, Allen Vandayburg said.

Vandayburg said he never was asked about his political leanings or his feelings about the war.

"To me, that was impressive," Allen Vandayburg said. "I got to meet the person. I didn't meet the president. I met the person and the person was genuine."

Allen Vandayburg had just one favor of the president: See the war through to a proper finish.

"I told him it's not your fault ... but don't let our men and women over there die in vain."

Allen Vandayburg said the president knew A.J.'s brother, Marine Pfc. Christopher Vandayburg, has volunteered to go to Iraq in January.

"He shook his head. I think somehow he feels responsible for sending our kids over there," said Allen Vandayburg. He said the president was in no hurry to end the 15-minute meeting, despite a hectic schedule and a pressing campaign stop in northeast Ohio. "We'd end the conversation and he'd pick it up again."

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/news/stories/20041003/localnews/1348388.html


3 posted on 10/03/2004 7:22:59 PM PDT by DrDeb
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Here's the reality that brain-dead dems don't see --

Whatever justifications Kerry demands of Bush, he's not going to get.

The truth is, WE know that the prez isn't going to be able to tell us the WHOLE story in a time of war.

WE know that when the future of our nation is at stake, sometimes other counties are going to have to suffer, and they're not going to be happy about it, but tough tiffy -- at the end of the day, it's us or them.

WE know that the war on terror, including (YES, INCLUDING) Iraq, requires some major sacrifices both on our part and on the part of our so-called allies.

WE know that the terrorists would LOVE Kerry to be in charge because they can reason with him. Bush is like a mad bear -- and that's just what we need to take on an enemy that cuts off heads for fun.

And there you have a piece of logic that even the brightest debater isn't going to be able to asnwer.


4 posted on 10/03/2004 7:28:44 PM PDT by johannes89a
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To: DrDeb

Thanx for this post.

I have been feeling down and depressed with the stupid media hype for Kerry. It's good to see some folks understand what our President has to do and how he relates to folks, just as people, not as voters.

Just had a call from a new, young volunteer, too! That helped my mood a lot, as well.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:04 PM PDT by reformedliberal (When the elites speak their power to our truth, they have given us cause for revolution)
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To: Faith
"I feel sorry for people who can't understand the importance of character in our elected officials.."

They always pay for it sooner or latter, unfortunately with the rest of us. Clinton "kick the can down the road" policy set conditions that let Osama succeed on the 9/11 attack.

6 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:11 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ohioWfan; MJY1288; homemom; Miss Marple; prairiebreeze; rstevens; All

Ping (read the article excerpt in Post #3 -- our President is such a compassionate man!)!!!


7 posted on 10/03/2004 7:31:04 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb
"....He said the president was in no hurry to end the 15-minute meeting, despite a hectic schedule and a pressing campaign stop in northeast Ohio. "We'd end the conversation and he'd pick it up again.""

Another clue if people looked.

8 posted on 10/03/2004 7:31:52 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Winthorp...where's the latest citrus crop report....
9 posted on 10/03/2004 7:36:35 PM PDT by PushinTin
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To: Anti-Bubba182; johannes89a; reformedliberal

After reading the hysterical tripe on FR the last 2 days, I've almost concluded that we simply don't deserve George W Bush as our president -- quite frankly, I don't know why he puts up with it or many of us!!!!


10 posted on 10/03/2004 7:41:00 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb

What's that supposed to mean?


11 posted on 10/03/2004 7:44:53 PM PDT by johannes89a
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Kerry was holed up in Spring Green WI which is a beautiful area of SW Wisconsin that he's now despoiled. Probably wrote up his crib sheets there and had his nails done.

Bush was doing the peoples work, a phrase that actually has meaning once again, after Clinton used it as a euphemism for intern-bonking.

Substance wins over style, providing people are allowed to see the difference.


12 posted on 10/03/2004 7:45:41 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: DrDeb

That's a ridiculous post. I expected Bush to be rested and ready for this debate. Does that mean I don't deserve him? After watching that I started thinking does he really deserve us? Honestly. I was out there all last weekend, as were thousands of others across the country. We are doing our part, he didn't do his. Sorry. That's how I feel. This is too important for him to get comfortable. If it meant not going out and seeing hurricane victims until the next day, I don't see how that would have been so horrible. Sue me.


13 posted on 10/03/2004 7:51:00 PM PDT by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: johannes89a

Read some of OhGeorgia's posts and you'll understand!


14 posted on 10/03/2004 7:53:16 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: DrDeb
You are right..America doesn't deserve W....if they are swayed so easily by a lying, POS traitor in just 90min...God help us all

In the last year and a half I have put up with Mike in Iraq and listening day after day to the MSM, rats, etc.. tell me that what he was doing was wrong and meaningless...Im sick of it....Im going down fighting ..the RNC called earlier and a gave another small donation....if we fail in Nov, so be it...I will be done with politics and hoping for the best for America...I will lead my life in a vacuum knowing that America got what they deserved....sorry for the rant.

15 posted on 10/03/2004 7:53:43 PM PDT by mystery-ak (Mr Kerry, how did we ever get along without you?)
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To: Hildy

Quite frankly, I find your post ridiculous -- shall we have a contest?! [Can you tell I'm in no mood for diplomacy?!]

BTW: I was among the thousands working last weekend, this weekend and a zillion other weekends!


16 posted on 10/03/2004 7:57:44 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: mystery-ak

I'm right there with you!!!! [And it's going to be a helluva fight!!!]


17 posted on 10/03/2004 7:59:11 PM PDT by DrDeb
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To: bigbob
"Substance wins over style, providing people are allowed to see the difference."

Or if they take the trouble to look.

18 posted on 10/03/2004 8:04:07 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Hildy

Americans always deserve the ideal leadership and corresponding to human frailties, always get something less. That's what a democratic republic is all about. Our leaders are not gods. I refuse to kowtow to anyone. That makes me a proud American. We elect human beings to office, and we expect them to be imperfect. That's why we change leaders from time to time!


19 posted on 10/03/2004 8:06:18 PM PDT by risk
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The slaker kerry has not been at work in the Senate for 6 months now, he's just campaigning. While President Bush has been leading the country, in wartime, and natural disaster, and campaigning.


20 posted on 10/03/2004 8:08:11 PM PDT by drq
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