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SEAL BITES KERRY
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team

Posted on 10/16/2004 7:45:26 AM PDT by longfellow

Military Record

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.

This will blow up in his face before October 15th. On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year." On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate, about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt Kerry, by his own words & actions, violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President .. having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team Director AuthentiSEAL

Phone (707) 438 0120

"The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs"

Terry L Silkey

tsilkey@mcelroymfg.com

1-918-831-9224

Fax 1-918-831-9256


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 180; form180; kerry; kerrysecrets; liar; militaryrecords; seals; sympathizer; vietnamcommunist
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1 posted on 10/16/2004 7:45:27 AM PDT by longfellow
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To: longfellow

NEVER FORGET ....... NEVER FORGIVE.......


2 posted on 10/16/2004 7:50:42 AM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: longfellow
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

Guess not.

3 posted on 10/16/2004 7:50:54 AM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: longfellow

Without any verification, this is just another accusation.
I can't stand the guy, and I think he was an opportunist regarding his medals, rather than a hero, but come on, if this is true, how about some substantiation?


4 posted on 10/16/2004 7:52:56 AM PDT by Imnotalib (Kerry-Edwards=Liar-thief)
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To: Maceman

Yeah, no one cares. The majority of the folks voting for Kerry are really launching a vote against Bush. Once you realize that it's easy to see why little of this is having the impact that we all hope it would with reasonable people. There are no reasonable people voting for Kerry. Either their blinded by their libness, ignorant not realizing what Kerry stands for, or so adamantly opposed to Bush that they'd vote for Hitler, literally, over Bush.

You can't persuade folks like that.


5 posted on 10/16/2004 7:54:58 AM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: longfellow

What can be done to make this a bigger issue? I find this information to be extremely important. I cant believe we could possibly elect a criminal as our President. If he is elected and this comes out after the fact....Edwards would be the president, which I find even more scary.

How can we make his hideen military records public??


6 posted on 10/16/2004 7:55:10 AM PDT by sjwells
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To: longfellow
Rather made a laughingstock of himself with memogate because of his burning desire to nail Bush. Kerry's files would be FAR more interesting, but not for Rather.

And I do wish Kerry's filegate story would finally gain some legs.

7 posted on 10/16/2004 7:55:32 AM PDT by xJones
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To: longfellow

BTTT


8 posted on 10/16/2004 7:55:48 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: longfellow

BUMP


9 posted on 10/16/2004 7:56:25 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Imnotalib

there must be some reason other candidates signed their 180
and Kerry won't. This reason sounds most plausible.


10 posted on 10/16/2004 7:56:47 AM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece:If Marx is your hero, Kerry is your candidate.)
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To: Imnotalib

contact him.

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team Director AuthentiSEAL

Phone (707) 438 0120

"The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs"

Terry L Silkey

tsilkey@mcelroymfg.com

1-918-831-9224

Fax 1-918-831-9256


11 posted on 10/16/2004 7:57:50 AM PDT by longfellow (You're either with US or from Hollywood! Ultimateamerican.com)
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To: Gibtx
Now that Bush Chaney has won 3 of the 4 debates what have we learned about the candidates that we didn’t know before. We already knew that Yaawn was not personable but we really didn’t know that he was nearly so full of hate and anger. We assumed that he had some ideas but found out what assume means, he has no plans or ideas. Mostly we learned that he will say and do anything to win an election.

The points that he let slip from deep inside Yaawn was that he would only go to war with a terrorist Country if it passes the Global Test. A test that was not passed in the first Iraq War and would not have been passed for Afghanistan since that was going to be a quagmire. We would not go to war to protect America if either France, Germany, China, North Korea or Libya disagreed.

He claims that America has lost it’s standing and admiration in the World. When exactly did the Europeans ever like America? Certainly not during the clinton regime when he couldn’t travel to Athens or Turkey because the protests were too violent with numbers pushing a million. Anyone remember the European term Maddie the Mad Bomber about Madeline Halfbright? Some of us would rather be respected & feared than loved by a bunch of radical unemployed Socialist/Communists.

We learned that he wants to destroy the current Medical System and install a Gummit program. He wants to enslave us with a Universal Healthcare modeling the Canadian system that takes 6 months to get an appointment. Never mind that Hillarycare II will drive the deficit into the Stratosphere.

He said that he will only raise taxes on the top 2% or $200,000 although the top two brackets he promises to rollback go down to the $150,000 level. He promises a tax-cut for us pissants in spite of his voting numerous times against Child Credits, death taxes, the marriage penalty and even raised taxes on Grandma’s Social Security. Anyone want to own a bridge in Brooklyn.

Mostly we learned that he is a very angry man who will attack anyone and everyone. During the debates he of course attacked the President in a fashion reminiscent of Jinjis Khan and Michael Mooron. Besides the President who apparently did nothing right, he attacked our closest allies, our troops fighting the wrong war, the VP’s daughter and even his own wife. In Yawn’s world the only person who measures up is Yawn Tax & Carry.

He exposed himself as man who refuses take stand on anything. He continuously dodges questions of a consummate politician, political sidestepping every issue to the point of exhaustion. His answers to personal questions were as bland and rehearsed as all of his answers. The Faith question he twisted the Bible verse of loving your neighbor to use as a club for not making Welfare large enough? Well, he did show what he truly worships, Big Gummit!

The debates actually gave us a good look into the emptiness that is Yawn Kerry. He has no soul, heart or backbone. Flip flop really doesn’t reach far enough because that supposes that he has taken a stand at one point or another. Other than his absolute hatred for America he cannot take a stand on anything. It is not a part of him to make a decision of any kind. He is the type that goes to a restaurant and orders the same thing every time because he could never order if there were more than 2 items. And forget the wine list, “pick something out Snookums.”

This is a shell that truly does blow in the wind. He criticizes anything other people do such as President Bush because they have positions to criticize. Twenty years in Congress and no accomplishments because he cannot take a stand and he is far too angry to bring people together. So here he sits on top of the most powerful political machine in the World’s history an empty hollow man.

Conversely, the debates showed us what a wonderfully simple leader we have now. This man is one of the most optimistic and family loving man to occupy the Oval Office. His vision of Freedom in the World is one of the most brilliant visions of all time. The belief that all men are endowed by their Creator yearning to breath freedom. To allow Democracy to overtake the Middle East and sweep across that land like a wildfire is purely brilliant. This is a mission that will bring Peace for the first time to a region that has been a desert of hope.

So in the next 2 weeks we have to do everything we can to make sure this man stays in the White House and let Freedom Ring around the World.

Pray for W and Our Troops

12 posted on 10/16/2004 7:58:28 AM PDT by bray (Hey Dingbat, how do you say Tax-Evasion in Portugese???)
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To: Maceman

John F. Kerry did not become a military officer by enlisting; he became an officer by a commission in the Navy. He held a reserve commission from December 16, 1966 to February 16, 1978. Commissioned officers are direct representatives of the president of the United States. Commissions are legal instruments the president uses to appoint and exercise direct control over qualified people to act as his legal agents and help him carry out his duties. The appointment to a commission has three requirements: The President or Service secretary must make the appointment; the military service must offer the appointment to the person, usually by giving the person a letter of appointment and an oath of office; and, the person must accept the appointment. Taking the oath of office is the most common method of accepting the appointment. Unlike draft that involuntarily inducts individuals into enlisted service, the military cannot force anyone to accept an appointment. If you have a service obligation and refuse an appointment, you must serve your obligated period as an enlisted person. John F. Kerry enlisted prior to accepting his appointment because he had incurred a service obligation perhaps because he was a military scholarship recipient or perhaps his number came up in the draft and he used an education option available to become an officer.

Although John Kerry’s January 2, 1970 release from active duty was under honorable conditions, speculation is misconduct while he was in the Naval Reserves resulted in a less than honorable dismissal that required a “board of officers convened under authority of Title 10 U.S. Code Section 1163” that determined his discharge was honorable. The approved recommendations of a convened board of officers are unusual and this is part of the cause for speculation a dismissal was upgraded to an Honorable discharge.

It is unclear from the records if all his commitment and obligation in the Naval Reserve was inactive duty status. However, U.S. Navy correspondence pertinent to his release from active duty states: “You are advised that your release from active duty does not terminate your status as a member of the U.S. Naval Reserve. On the day following the effective date of your release from active duty as specified in paragraph 3 of this endorsement, you will assume the status of a member of the Naval Reserve on inactive duty. While on inactive duty you are subject to involuntary recall to active duty to the extent authorized by Federal statute.”

If John F. Kerry completed his entire military obligation on inactive duty status, he would only be subject to trial by court martial under Articles 83, 104, or 106. The authority for this is found in Rule 202 Persons Subject to Jurisdictions to Courts-Martial, which expands upon Article 2 that defines classes of persons subject to the code. Only Article 104-Aiding the enemy has any connection to the conduct and behavior of John Kerry if his reserve time was nothing but inactive duty status. However, it is enough to give a second cause to speculate he some how influenced a dismissal into an honorable discharge.

It is public record John F. Kerry met with both delegation of Vietnamese Communists in Paris France in 1970 and it is allegedly in FBI files that he met with representatives from the North Vietnamese government in Paris France in 1971. Considering also his very active and visible leadership role in the antiwar movement, it is clear he was in direct violation of the UCMJ and Constitutional Codes and articles. “The scope of article 104 is it denounces offences by all persons whether or not otherwise subject to military law. Offenders may be tried by court martial or military by military commission.” “The nature of the offense is no unauthorized communication, correspondence, or intercourse with the enemy is permissible.” It is clear John F. Kerry knowingly and purposely aided the enemy. Consequently, the majority of Vietnam Veterans do consider him a traitor, betrayer, and a liar.

The dismissal is the commissioned officer version of a dishonorable discharge. Any dismissal subsequent to an honorable discharge null and voids any previous honorable discharge and any awards and decorations. Consequently, there are administrative peculiarities in the documents and certificates of some of John Kerry’s decorations that provide cause for some to believe the medal were revoked and then awarded back to him.

Even if John Kerry was not subject to jurisdictions to military court martial, he violated U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, which declares it is illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power. Violating the United States Constitution is something he believes he can do whenever he decides. His first foreign policy action as a freshman senator in 1985 was to visit with Sandinista officials to include three hours of direct and personal negation with Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega. This was also a direct violation of federal code and sections of the U.S. Constitution.

Senator John F. Kerry’s voting record as an elected official of government doesn't demonstrate a commitment to ensuring American fighting forces, intelligence gathering agencies, and law enforcement agencies are equipped and trained to do what is needed to keep our homelands safe. Senator Kerry has an inability to work effectively with Presidents who do not share his views. His mischief as senator to participate in unauthorized and secret negotiations with leaders and officials of other governments and the United Nations that are putting the lives of our armed forced in jeopardy in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is his sense of duty and sense of the good life can easily result in more harm than safety, more taxes than advertised in campaign promises, and other consequences. What kind of deals is he cutting to get the support of foreign countries and peoples? Why is the left wing Guardian newspaper of London identifying American voters and encouraging its readers to write letters to American voter’s encouraging them to vote for John F. Kerry?

The lack of inquiry and interest by the news media undermines the purpose for having a free press. Freedom of the press is an essential essence of liberty and the better time for vigilance is before misinformed voters make choices.


13 posted on 10/16/2004 7:58:41 AM PDT by johca
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To: sjwells

The only thing that could happen would be for someone to leak the documents. But, unlike leaked or forged documents about Bush, would have the media go after the leaker(s) and excuse Kerry. In addition, the media would say the material in any documents was false. This is a no go in with the main stream media as it is.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 8:00:18 AM PDT by Nutmeg08
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To: Maceman

A lot of predictions will be shown to be hooey after the Election.

Including this one.

< |:)~


15 posted on 10/16/2004 8:00:51 AM PDT by martin_fierro (™)
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To: Maceman

I was just going to say...! Or did he mean next year?


16 posted on 10/16/2004 8:01:33 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: MizSterious

It's already October 16th. You might wish to update your projected release date for this info.


17 posted on 10/16/2004 8:27:52 AM PDT by UMFan
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To: Imnotalib
...how about some substantiation?

What do you think Kerry's non-denial denials amount to?

18 posted on 10/16/2004 8:29:01 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Imnotalib
how about some substantiation

Unfortunately, we can't get any substantiation until Kerry signs the Form 180. And he won't sign it because he knows what's in there will fry him good. It's almost a "catch-22."

19 posted on 10/16/2004 8:30:46 AM PDT by pctech
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To: Fruitbat
You can't persuade folks like that.

Listen to yourselves. Read the "rathergate" threads. Early on, there were people trying to throw cold water on it.

Something really smells in Kerry's records. Keep the pressure on.

20 posted on 10/16/2004 8:47:42 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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