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If Specter gets his Chairmanship, let's boycott Santorum in 2006 (A Threat)

Posted on 11/07/2004 3:05:58 PM PST by Remember_Salamis

We must make it perfectly clear to Rick Santorum that if he lets Specter chair the judiciary committee, we WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM in 2006 for Senate. Instead, we will support Pat Toomey.

We must also make it perfectly clear to Bill Frist that if he does not block Specter Chairmanship, he might as well not even enter the 2008 primaries.

Both of these men hold the power over Specter and we must threaten to boycott their futures if they ignore their base.


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1 posted on 11/07/2004 3:05:58 PM PST by Remember_Salamis
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To: Remember_Salamis

Piffle


2 posted on 11/07/2004 3:06:37 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Santorum does not control it. I can't see why we'd boycott one of the most strident opponents of the liberal judiciary because Specter got this position. Seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 3:07:58 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Remember_Salamis

Repeated and constant threats from the "base" will not achive your goal.


4 posted on 11/07/2004 3:09:12 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Brilliant

Yep, I agree .. like cutting off your nose to spite your face.


5 posted on 11/07/2004 3:09:25 PM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Nothing like biting off your nose to spite your face!


6 posted on 11/07/2004 3:10:04 PM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Remember_Salamis

I'm at a loss here, Salami. Santorum is a strong prolife advocate and doesn't control the process. What are you thinking here?


7 posted on 11/07/2004 3:11:07 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Remember_Salamis

Let's ignore your suggestions.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 3:11:59 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Remember_Salamis

Not me sport.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 3:12:02 PM PST by Stentor
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To: CyberAnt

I guess great minds think alike.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 3:12:03 PM PST by Patriotic Bostonian
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To: Remember_Salamis

Remember that our "devout Catholic" Santorum staunchly supported baby-killing Specter to end the campaign of conservative Pat Toomey.


11 posted on 11/07/2004 3:12:27 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: Remember_Salamis

No.


12 posted on 11/07/2004 3:13:24 PM PST by tuckrdout (You lose your right to complain about taxes, if you voted for any democrat!)
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To: Brilliant

Santorum is #3 in the GOP Senate PEcking order (Frist, McConnell, Santorum). Santorum is Republican Conference Chairman, and it is nothing to shake a stick at.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 3:13:40 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Brilliant

Well, the reasoning is that Santorum actually endorsed the anti-life Specter, over the solidly pro-life, and conservative Toomey.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 3:14:45 PM PST by tuckrdout (You lose your right to complain about taxes, if you voted for any democrat!)
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To: Remember_Salamis

I don't think Governor Toomey would run against Santorum. Besides, Rick is a great conservative Senator. I'm sorry he supported Specter, but realistically it was Bush's support that put Specter over the top in the primary, not Santorum's.


15 posted on 11/07/2004 3:14:58 PM PST by old and tired
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To: Remember_Salamis
Excellent idea.

Let's tell GWB we'll vote dem in 2008 too. That'll scare em.

16 posted on 11/07/2004 3:15:54 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: johniegrad

Santorum is the Republican Conference Chairman, #3 in the senate pecking order. In that role, Santorum is also the Senate's mouthpiece. Santorum also endorsed Specter over Toomey, which he did not have to do. I believe he made comments vouching for Specter's ability to perform as Judiciary chairman.


17 posted on 11/07/2004 3:16:43 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Because of his staunch support of an infanticide-promoter like Specter, Santorum should join Kerry in refraining from Holy Communion.


18 posted on 11/07/2004 3:17:03 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: CyberAnt
Somehow threads like this are hard to reconcile with Rove: Election Could Mean Decades of GOP Rule. Post election euphoria I suppose.
19 posted on 11/07/2004 3:17:33 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Oops. I gave Toomey the governorship. I meant to say he'll be to busy running against Rendell for governor.


20 posted on 11/07/2004 3:17:47 PM PST by old and tired
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To: AskStPhilomena; All

Exactly. He can right his wrong, or face the wrath of his base in 2006.

I also see a good chance to send Frist the message that he has ZERO chance in the 2008 primaries (if he even has a chance now) if he puts Specter in the Chairman's seat.


21 posted on 11/07/2004 3:18:41 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

With all due respect--stuff it.


22 posted on 11/07/2004 3:19:43 PM PST by Antoninus (Santorum in '08)
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To: SJackson

Bad analogy. Dubya isn't running for anything in 2008. But we can send the message that if the GOP doesn't listen to the base regharding immigration, we will stay home.


23 posted on 11/07/2004 3:19:54 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Santorum does not control this--heck, he's not even on the committee.

It's amazing you pretend to know so much, but in reality know so little.


24 posted on 11/07/2004 3:20:21 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Remember_Salamis
Here's Santorum's defense (from the July-August 2004 Crisis Magazine):
Probably the issue of concern to most Catholics is the thought that Senator Specter will be in charge of moving President Bush’s judicial nominees out of the Judiciary Committee. I’m constantly reminded of his vote on Judge Robert Bork (though let’s not forget his questioning of Anita Hill during Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s confirmation hearings).

The reality is Senator Specter has supported all six of President Bush’s filibustered judicial nominees this session, both in committee and on the floor. Furthermore, he has said that when he becomes chairman of the Judiciary Committee, he’ll live by the bill he introduced in Congress last year that requires all judicial nominees who have the approval of their home-state senators to be reported out of the Judiciary Committee promptly.

Senator Specter, who has voted for every Bush judicial nominee, has said repeatedly that he doesn’t apply a litmus test for judges. I know this for a fact because during the last three years, the senator and I have joined together to nominate 20 judges to the federal bench, including six Democrats. From the public information available about those nominees, all were conservative jurists and to my knowledge—with one exception—were also pro-life.


25 posted on 11/07/2004 3:20:25 PM PST by gbcdoj
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To: AskStPhilomena

I once sold a hot dog to John Kerry. That sustained him until his next meal. I guess I helped him continue his pro-abortion jihad. Ought I refrain from Holy Communion, as well??


26 posted on 11/07/2004 3:21:14 PM PST by sitetest (Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Santorum made a mistake on this one. Otherwise he has been first rate in every other way.

And Frist is pretty good. Moreover someone said he was planning to step down. After all, he's a doctor with other interests in life.

If anyone's to blame it's Bush and Rove, who probably twisted Santorum's arm and persuaded him to speak out. Now it's Bush's job to control the Frankenstein monster he helped create.


27 posted on 11/07/2004 3:22:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Antoninus

What's your deal man? Santorum vouched for Specter's ability to chair the Judiciary committee, so let's hold his feet to the fire. I see you're backing Santorum in 2008 for Prez. I think Santorum is a very god man, but I think he went spineless during the primaries and needs to right his wrong.

How do you feel about telling Frist that he can forget about running in 2008 if he let's specter get on there???


28 posted on 11/07/2004 3:23:02 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Dude your an idiot


29 posted on 11/07/2004 3:23:25 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: Republican Wildcat

He's #3 in GOP Senate leadership, from the same state as Specter, and his endorsement of Specter was key in him defeating Toomey. If you don't think Santorum has pull, you're crazy!


30 posted on 11/07/2004 3:25:43 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis
You guys running around wanting to boycott people over something that will likely get resolved in the Republican Senate Caucus are hysterical.

In more ways than one.

31 posted on 11/07/2004 3:26:05 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: tuckrdout

From the mouth of Santorum in August 2004:

"Senator Specter, who has voted for every Bush judicial nominee, has said repeatedly that he doesn’t apply a litmus test for judges. I know this for a fact because during the last three years, the senator and I have joined together to nominate 20 judges to the federal bench, including six Democrats. From the public information available about those nominees, all were conservative jurists and to my knowledge—with one exception—were also pro-life."

DO YOU BELIEVE IN ACCOUNTABILITY???


32 posted on 11/07/2004 3:27:36 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: AskStPhilomena
Because of his staunch support of an infanticide-promoter like Specter, Santorum should join Kerry in refraining from Holy Communion.

No, he shouldn't.

Toomey would have cost the Republicans a seat in the Senate, as he could not have beat Hoelfel.

33 posted on 11/07/2004 3:28:01 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Bad analogy. Dubya isn't running for anything in 2008. But we can send the message that if the GOP doesn't listen to the base regharding immigration, we will stay home.

I didn't say he was, but a Republican will be running for President. I suggested we threaten him (GOP, same thing, we all know GWB isn't running) with voting dem, you suggest we threaten him with staying home. I doubt that's going to be effective. The time for that message in in 2006 and 2008, and in the primaries.

34 posted on 11/07/2004 3:28:10 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: sitetest
I once sold a hot dog to John Kerry. That sustained him until his next meal. I guess I helped him continue his pro-abortion jihad. Ought I refrain from Holy Communion, as well??

Kosher or Oscar Meyer? Did he eat it or go out to the bus for shrimp vindaloo?

35 posted on 11/07/2004 3:30:20 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: sinkspur
No, he shouldn't...Toomey would have cost the Republicans a seat in the Senate, as he could not have beat Hoelfel.

You've been on enough Keyes threads to know that doesn't matter.

36 posted on 11/07/2004 3:32:12 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: Remember_Salamis

And here I thought that circular firing squads were a particularly left-wing phenomenon.

This all doesn't sound very tolerant. Does not the Republican Party sport a pretty damn big tent?


37 posted on 11/07/2004 3:33:12 PM PST by StatenIsland
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To: Remember_Salamis
We must make it perfectly clear to Rick Santorum that if he lets Specter chair the judiciary committee, we WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM in 2006 for Senate. Instead, we will support Pat Toomey.

What's this "WE" taking point? You got an Amish in your pocket? Your profile says you're in Hawaii.

You take care of defeating Inouye. We Pennsylvanians like Santorum fine, THANKS.

38 posted on 11/07/2004 3:33:29 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Remember_Salamis

This makes no sense. Perhaps you could cut a deal with Karl Rove - don't try to do his job, and he wont try to do yours.


39 posted on 11/07/2004 3:34:12 PM PST by pollyshy
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To: Physicist
What's this "WE" taking point? You got an Amish in your pocket? Your profile says you're in Hawaii. You take care of defeating Inouye. We Pennsylvanians like Santorum fine, THANKS

Well, he said he won't vote for him. And he won't :>)

40 posted on 11/07/2004 3:35:33 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: sinkspur

"Toomey would have cost the Republicans a seat in the Senate, as he could not have beat Hoelfel."

-- Remember the SC Senate PRimaries, when everybody said that we needed to nominate former Gov. David Beasley because DeMint was not a protectionist and Beasley was more moderate? Toomey would have Won! Conservatives did not show up to vote for Specter, but they would have for Toomey. And who knows, maybe with Toomey on the ticket more Republicans would have shown up to vote for dubya. The GOP went spineless in Pennsylvania last spring, and now they are paying for it.


41 posted on 11/07/2004 3:36:48 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis

Silly wabbit...


42 posted on 11/07/2004 3:37:44 PM PST by ScholarWarrior
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To: SJackson

"The time for that message in in 2006 and 2008, and in the primaries."

-- THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING!!! FRIST is running for Presient in 2008, and we need to let him know that if Specter is nominated, the grassroots will remember.


43 posted on 11/07/2004 3:37:55 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: Remember_Salamis
Why don't you worry about Hawaii? You've got a couple of Dems there who deserve your attention.

Wanting to boot Santorum is the nuttiest thing proposed on this board in a very long time.

44 posted on 11/07/2004 3:38:27 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

It would be incredibly stupid politically to actively try to get a sitting Senator from your own State knocked off of a committee chairmanship. You're the one that is crazy for suggesting this. You should be embarrassed.


45 posted on 11/07/2004 3:39:20 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: sitetest

Instead of selling the hot-dog, out of charity you should have told Kerry to fast and do penance for supporting the slaughter of the innocents on an unprecedented scale.


46 posted on 11/07/2004 3:39:27 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: StatenIsland

Specter is nothing more than a troll in the Republican party. Did you know his campaign in the primaries recruited democrats to come switch registration to vote for him in the primaries? I don't have a problem with a big tent, but I do have a problem with a man who does not believe in the core tenets of our party being in a leadership position.


47 posted on 11/07/2004 3:40:41 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: AskStPhilomena; sitetest
Instead of selling the hot-dog, out of charity you should have told Kerry to fast and do penance for supporting the slaughter of the innocents on an unprecedented scale.

You trads are sure weird.

48 posted on 11/07/2004 3:41:14 PM PST by sinkspur ("It is a great day to be alive. I appreciate your gratitude." God Himself.)
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To: Remember_Salamis

LOL -- South Carolina is no Pennsylvania! Give us a break, please. How ridiculous to even try to make the comparison!


49 posted on 11/07/2004 3:41:15 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Physicist

We = grassroots. And I'm not Hawaiian; I'm active duty military stationed out here (CA resident).


50 posted on 11/07/2004 3:41:58 PM PST by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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