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cnn.com ^ | Friday, November 19, 2004 | cnn

Posted on 11/19/2004 11:06:54 AM PST by crushelits

ST. PETERSBURG, Florida (AP) -- A gunman fatally shot two people and wounded a third inside a Radio Shack store
at a strip mall Thursday night, then shot himself to death, police said.

Another customer and an employee managed to escape uninjured from the store at the Gateway Shopping Center, police spokesman Bill Proffitt said.

Police did not identify the gunman, but police spokesman George Kajtsa said the man "had some mental issues, according to his family."

"He was involved in some kind of a road rage incident today that the Pinellas County Sheriff's Department is investigating," Kajtsa said. He had no other details, other than that the incident occurred well before the evening shootings.

Proffitt said investigators did not know the gunman's motive or whether he knew his victims. The Tampa Tribune previously reported that the gunman was a former Radio Shack employee, but Proffitt could not confirm that.continues...

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KEYWORDS: banglist; killself; pinellas; pinellascounty; radioshack; shooting; shootingkills3; stpetersburg; tampabay

1 posted on 11/19/2004 11:06:55 AM PST by crushelits
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To: crushelits
the man "had some mental issues"

Nice work detectives.

2 posted on 11/19/2004 11:08:27 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: crushelits
Must have sold him the wrong battery.
3 posted on 11/19/2004 11:10:55 AM PST by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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To: crushelits
"Just the RCA to 1/8" connector, sir? That will be $1.19, please. May I have your name, address, ans SS #?"

"AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!"

4 posted on 11/19/2004 11:11:33 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek

You beat me to it. I figure they asked him for his phone nnumber!


5 posted on 11/19/2004 11:15:10 AM PST by RetroSexual
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To: crushelits

Why can't any of these guys just cut to the chase and shoot themselves FIRST!

Prioritize people.


6 posted on 11/19/2004 11:15:37 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: crushelits

I have often wanted to go on shooting rampages in Radio Shack stores. You guys on the left coast are lucky to have Fry's, a good alternative.


7 posted on 11/19/2004 11:15:38 AM PST by Oblongata
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To: crushelits

What was this about? Fighting over rechargeable battery brands?


8 posted on 11/19/2004 11:16:16 AM PST by RockinRight (Liberals are OK with racism, as long as it is aimed at a Republican.)
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To: crushelits
I caught two thieves who were ripping me off when I ran a Radio Shack out in San Francisco back around 1980. The woman was trying to distract me (no, not that way) while the guy was pulling a car stereo out of it's box and shoving it into a bag (this was an old, BIG store). I saw him, walked over and grabbed the bag out of his hand.

As I walked over to the counter to call the cops he kept tring to reach into the bag. I kept knocking his hand away. When I got to the counter the two of them ran out the door, laughing (I was alone and couldn't really stop them).

When the cops came we looked into the bag and discovered what he must have been reaching for: a 12" long kitchen knife.

I took the rest of the day off.

9 posted on 11/19/2004 11:21:48 AM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: crushelits
You really have to watch out for these "mental issues" guys (and I think they are almost always men).

Just recently on a multi-state trip I stopped off at a gas station in a small town. After gassing up my car I parked it and walked back to pay the bill. On the way there I came across this man standing behind a pick-up truck who angrily told me, "Go that way!" and gestured to the direction I was going anyway.

I looked into the eyes and saw unbelievable anger and wildness.

I checked with the lady at the cash register and she said, "Yeah, everybody walks gingerly around him as he can fly off at the least provocation."

You gotta be careful.

10 posted on 11/19/2004 11:22:53 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: Senator Pardek
One time, one damn time, I slipped up and gave my correct number.

They obviously do a reverse search on them because I started to get mailings from RS and other places that I never heard of.

I said then, that if I ever went back in to RS and they asked me for personal info, I was going to walk out and not return.

I went back, they asked for my address and PH# and I walked out.

I've not been in a RS for about 10 years, now.

I will not go in to one, just for that reason.

I suspect they have lost quite a bit of business because of that policy.

(Plus, they are a bit overpriced in my opinion.)

11 posted on 11/19/2004 11:33:32 AM PST by OldSmaj (Islam is a false religion. It's adherents and followers are doomed to hell.)
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To: OldSmaj
I went back, they asked for my address and PH# and I walked out.

I just say 'no'. They've never refused my money.

12 posted on 11/19/2004 11:37:18 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: OldSmaj

I always give such places the telephone number and address for the local sewage treatment plant.


13 posted on 11/19/2004 11:39:45 AM PST by Constitution Day (ps. i'll find my frog)
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To: OldSmaj

(Plus, they are a bit overpriced in my opinion.)""

Overpriced is only half the problem.

Under serviced is the other problem.

The last time I bought anything there they asked for my name and I said John Wayne. The guy froze in place. End of questions.


14 posted on 11/19/2004 11:41:39 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: ridesthemiles

The real Radio Shack motto: You've got questions, we've got acne.


15 posted on 11/19/2004 11:44:24 AM PST by ko_kyi
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To: dts32041
Must have sold him the wrong battery.

Would that lead to Assault and battery charges?

16 posted on 11/19/2004 11:45:35 AM PST by msnimje
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To: Glenn

Try what I did once. When the "clerk" asked me for my last name, I said "Sale". He had a hard time spelling that, and then asked for my first name and I said "Cash". After a few seconds of letting this puzzle sink into his pea brain, I said, "Just write down Cash Sale and don't ask me any more questions.

He had a difficult time comprehending that, but after some hesitation and herculean mental gymnastics on his part, I walked out with my merchandise.

I seldom purchase anything from RatSh!t because they can take a piece of wire 2" long and turn it into krap (tm). Sometimes they are the only place to buy some simple electronic part, but their stuff has been so bad, that I'll go to the local Rite-Aid, Walgreens or Walmart instead of buying from RatSh!t.

There *is* some pleasure though in saying "Just write down cash sale, ring it up and give me my stuff" to the stupid retard there.

About the only question they have answers to is "where's the door?"


17 posted on 11/19/2004 2:50:02 PM PST by hadit2here ("Danger lies not in what we don't know, but in what we think we know that just ain't so." Mark Twain)
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To: crushelits
He had two or three prior arrests but the victim of the assaults didn't press charges. So, he was out on the streets. He had a twin sister who was very apologetic to the victims' families but of course, that won't bring them back. One guy is still in the hospital who worked at Radio Shack. I used to live right there and mom would go to Publix and I would often go into that Radio Shack to buy stuff. We moved out of St. Petersburg when it looked like downtown was getting closer to us.

Yes, the guy had a history but it wasn't taken seriously. Our law enforcement would rather hand out parking tickets than watch habitual criminals. Remember Carlie Brucia of Sarasota? Kidnapped and killed by a habitual criminal.

Florida's law enforcement is the BARNEY FIFE VARIETY, especially PINELLAS COUNTY.

18 posted on 11/19/2004 4:59:13 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: stainlessbanner

Since his picture has been on local tv, I can say that he was not a member of the religion of peace. He was an angry, balding while male. for real


19 posted on 11/19/2004 5:00:36 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: crushelits

The killer looked like Mark Hacking of Utah who shot his wife. Very close resemblance. His sister looks like a NOW member. Cropped hair, no makeup - very plain. She was interviewed by www.baynews9.com (exclusive interview with them).


20 posted on 11/19/2004 5:02:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: ridesthemiles
Last time I went in, Dubya's father was Prez.

I told the salesman my name was George Bush and my address was 1600 Pennslyvania Avenue, Washington, DC.

He input the info...without batting an eyelash.

He was Middle Eastern.

21 posted on 11/19/2004 5:02:56 PM PST by DCPatriot (I don't do politically correct very well either.)
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To: Oblongata

Oh yea, just love standing on those four hour lines at Fry's! We have Radio Shacks too. They're good when you just freakin need a battery or adapter or something fast.


22 posted on 11/19/2004 5:03:14 PM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: ridesthemiles

I think managers have to work 80 hours a week. I think they have turnover issues.


23 posted on 11/19/2004 5:03:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: OldSmaj
I will not go in to one, just for that reason.

I don't think they do that anymore. But you're still better off not going back.

24 posted on 11/19/2004 5:08:51 PM PST by steveo (Member: Fathers Against Rude Television)
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To: Hildy
Also be careful buying any software from Fry's. It appears that they are re-shrink wrapping returned software for re-sale. They are also selling defective second line software.

There is a strict exchange only policy for Fry's software which means if you buy a faulty inoperable program which is alleged to be appropriate for your system's operating system, Fry's will only exchange it for the same inoperable software.

I bought a $40 program for my operating system after listening to one of Fry's so-called "IT" experts ramble on for an hour why that particular program was the best and worth the money.

The CD appeared to be new, but it did not work at all. I waited one hour for a supervisor to hear my complaint at Fry's return counter. The supervisor explained the strict no-return policy, but then I suggested that they try the CD on one of their computers.

I waited another half hour while the Fry's supervisor attempted to load the program and get it running.

When he could not load the program, the Fry's supervisor said "we'll make a one-time only exception in this case and give you store credit. Just don't tell anyone."

25 posted on 11/19/2004 5:22:30 PM PST by bd476
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To: crushelits

Have to wonder if this is one of those "gun free", criminal empowerment zone malls.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 5:41:06 PM PST by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: floriduh voter

I just got a seasonal job at the Shack. Managers have P/L responsibility. If they know their merchandise and keep their crew productive, the commissions are very good if the store is in a good location.


27 posted on 11/19/2004 6:56:34 PM PST by qwertyz
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To: floriduh voter
Florida's law enforcement is the BARNEY FIFE VARIETY, especially PINELLAS COUNTY.

My cousin, the one who drove a lawn mowing company into the ground, is now a deputy in some county in Florida.

28 posted on 11/19/2004 7:29:29 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.n)
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To: crushelits
"A 3.5mm stereo to 1/4" stereo adapter? Sure, here's one"

"No, that's not the right one. Neither of those ends is a 3.5mm stereo."

Hmmmm, I know we have one around here someplace."

"Arrrrrgggggg."

29 posted on 11/19/2004 7:34:13 PM PST by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has never led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: floriduh voter

My dad interviewed with them for a management position once, when he was desperate for work, and got a speech about "you have to work X number of hours and you can't have these days off and blah blah blah and you have to work real hard and I'll see if in a couple of years you are doing good I might be able to get you promoted so you can run your own ripoff Shack"

He was a radar tech in the A.F. has a degree in physics and has run more than one manufacturing plant and some guy with acne problems and has to date his left hand on weekends was giving him a speech about "see above". I thought it was funny then but now that I have a couple of years under my belt I get the feeling he had a lot of self control not to put the kid over his knee and spank him.


30 posted on 11/19/2004 7:35:41 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (You can turn your head away from the Berg video and still hear Al Queda's calls to prayer.n)
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To: crushelits; floriduh voter
the shooter had a two outbursts of "road rage" -- aggressive and violent, not just flipping someone off -- prior to heading off the the nearest Radio Shack for target practice.

my thought on learning this was that, were there more people who valued their second ammendment rights (you know, who were taught to value it as a right and an obligation for able bodied citizens to bear arms) then perhaps the people whose cars he wailed on might have stopped him, or at least put the fear of God in him, before he killed two innocent people and put another in critical condition.

If, that is, people weren't taught that government run domestic law enforcement is their daddy.

I've fumed about Pinellas Co law enforcement extensively, and the court system to a lesser extent. I'm an honest, professional white male -- never been a trouble maker -- and I've had enough experiences with the "system" to fill a book. Pinellas is hopelessly corrupt, the sherrif's deputies indulge in too many steroids, watch too much "crime scene" and court tv. Juges and lawyers are so in bed with each other it's plainly obvious.

Taken together,they're dangerous, overzealous, and unstable.

31 posted on 11/20/2004 5:23:17 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: the invisib1e hand; All
According to today's paper, his mom told the Sheriff's that her son was probably on the way to the Shooting Range. IMO, the mother knew that he had a weapon. Why no APB? The local law enforcement is always MOPPING UP instead of pursuing. As I noted in my post, imo, he was ANGRY white male category rather than an islamic extremist. The last name had kind of a foreign flair to it. I have nothing against white males. He indeed was an ANGRY one.

Pinellas County has no leadership paying attention. Charlie Crist is from here. I wonder if he will weigh in on this mass killing. The remaining victim if he survives WILL BE BLIND.

32 posted on 11/20/2004 5:56:05 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: TERMINATTOR
The guy's mom was interviewed about the road rage wherein no charges were pressed and she told the sheriffs that he was "probably on his way to go Target Shooting." Well, she was close. Radio Shack is a few doors down from Target.

Why no APB if they thought there was an armed man on the loose? There was no APB, just the aftermath footage of bodies being removed by ambulance. The girl and the one fellow died of wounds to the abdomen. The girl called her mom to say goodbye and that she knew she was going to die. The fellow was also alive when transported.

One remains, the Radio Shack assistant manager.

WHY NOT PICK UP ON THE CLUE FROM MOM THAT HE WAS GOING TO TARGET PRACTICE?

Further, in March, law enforcement rejected his application to become a cop... WHERE WAS THE APB? There wasn't one. I lived on the street where the road rage started and the cross street was where the shootings/murders occurred.

He probably chose Radio Shack because it is medium sized and there's a section in the back where they have two walls for merchandise. He probably knew he could go in there in a small area where there was nowhere for people to run but rather, they were trapped.

33 posted on 11/20/2004 6:03:11 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: qwertyz

That store was in a great location by a Target, a Publix grocery, a Petsmart, a Party City, other stores I can't remember BECAUSE I MOVED FAR AWAY FROM THERE.


34 posted on 11/20/2004 6:04:39 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter
the clerk of the court, recently elected, says he homeschools his children. Can't recall his name, but that should bring an interesting -- maybe even a balanced -- perspective to a meaningless position.

Everett Rice is a freak, from what I hear. Judging by the demeanor of the sheriff's dept, in light of the principal that leadership makes the organization, I must conclude that he is indeed a sick fellow. Only now he gets to be a representative of the people. this place is under some kind of curse.

35 posted on 11/20/2004 6:57:50 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Ken Burke's the new clerk. I've met him and told him if he ever ran for POTUS, he had my vote. He's going to be the only outsider we'll have. I think that's why he won the election. People were yearning for a talented outsider.

He can audit any and all judges whenever he wants to. He's a CPA for starters and Karleen DeBlaker was warming a chair for the past five to ten years. He'll be a vast improvement, benefiting all.

36 posted on 11/20/2004 7:01:45 AM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
My cousin, the one who drove a lawn mowing company into the ground, is now a deputy in some county in Florida.

that qualifies him for a government job anywhere.

37 posted on 11/20/2004 7:09:13 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: floriduh voter

he's got his work cut out for him. is he a scientologist? that faction makes for interesting politcs. ahem.


38 posted on 11/20/2004 7:11:12 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: crushelits
The shooter was a student at USF = jihad U of sammi alarian(?) and betty castor (D beat in run for FL Senate in Nov.). My guess he was upset about his islam brothers getting killed and betty's election loss.

Jammer
39 posted on 11/20/2004 7:19:00 AM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Actually, last I heard, the positions at Radioshack are retail sales positions - just because you can build a TV/cell-phone/dvd-player doesn't mean you can sell one! Not to mention salesmen/women with _too_much_ knowledge probably just confuse the customers! (I'm sure this is why they want to check people out first, before handing them the keys to a store)


40 posted on 12/05/2004 2:51:41 AM PST by someguyT
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To: hadit2here

Come on now, no need to be ignorant! RadioShack employees are people too, and I'm sure, like all companies, they aren't allowed to sock customers in the face when they are rude to them! Controlling this urge can often be confused with facial expressions appearing to be looks of confusion. I've worked retail before - I know this feeling! Usually the thoughts going through my mind included "this guy probably thinks he's funny" and "wow, I think I'll take as long as possible to do this, pretending I'm stupid, and maybe I'll make him late to whatever he's doing next." We didn't really want to retain these customers anyway, as they usually didn't spend much money in our store! Watch out, and remember - it may be good fun for you picking on someone, but you never know when they may have "mental problems" and snap!


41 posted on 12/05/2004 3:05:43 AM PST by someguyT
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To: Phsstpok
"(this was an old, BIG store)"

When I go to Radio Shack (rarely anymore) I always get around to telling the youngsters what Radio Shack
used to be like. An electronics hardware store. But most of the old hardware stores are gone too, so they have
no point of reference. They just nod, and try to humor the old fogey and
..."by the way what's your telephone number?"

42 posted on 12/05/2004 3:50:41 AM PST by trickyricky
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To: Paridel

ping


43 posted on 12/05/2004 3:52:37 AM PST by June Cleaver (in here, Ward . . .)
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To: someguyT
Not to mention salesmen/women with _too_much_ knowledge probably just confuse the customers!

Maybe back in the day that was true, but I haven't been in a Radio Shack in the last 15 years where there was any clerk who knew a woofer from a diode.

44 posted on 12/05/2004 4:11:31 AM PST by Looking4Truth (Never trust the old media for information.)
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To: Looking4Truth

Actually, that was kinda my point - if you look around in the "newer" Radioshack, they are starting to look _more_ like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. I think they're trying to change, in order to generate more profit (I imagine resistors, caps, pots, etc probably don't generate much profit in the average store). I believe the _average_ consumer nowadays seems to care more that something works out of the box, rather than how it works - it's almost to the point where they want drive-thru service! I'm frustrated myself that the convenient parts hardware store seems to be dwindling, but no need to bash a company for changing its business model to generate profit (good for shareholders!). If anything, I like the way they organized the parts they do have into the drawers - it makes it a little easier to find without having to ask!


45 posted on 12/05/2004 2:28:55 PM PST by someguyT
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To: crushelits

"You've got questions. We've got CRAZED LUNATICS WITH GUNS!!!!11"


46 posted on 12/05/2004 2:32:40 PM PST by vezke
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To: vezke

Oh and they certainly dont have any answers. Usually just a dumb stare.


47 posted on 12/05/2004 2:34:52 PM PST by vezke
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