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Why Calling Conservatives "Nazis" is Such an Inane and Incongruous Remark
CHRONWATCH.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 26, 2004 | JOE MARIANI

Posted on 11/26/2004 6:09:22 PM PST by CHARLITE

Once again, we're being ''treated'' to the same tired old cries of liberal outrage. How dare the stupid people of America not whole-heartedly embrace liberal ideas and policies? Why, they must all be mind-controlled. They must all be... Nazis!

The latest in a long string of Hollywood half-wits to invoke the Nazi meme is Linda Ronstadt, who said of the election, ''Now we've got a new bunch of Hitlers.'' Such diverse personalities as David Hoffman (the legal editor of Pravda), Senator (and former Kleagle in the KKK) Bobby ''Sheets'' Byrd (D-WVa), novelist/priest Andrew Greeley, former Vice-President Al Gore, and multi-billionaire anti-American George Soros (founder of MoveOn.org and other left-wing groups) have all torpedoed their own arguments by invoking Nazi comparisons, as have numerous other politicians, artists, pundits, and garden-variety liberals.

''Nazi'' is a sort of pet insult many liberals use to taunt conservatives without understanding what it really means, the same way a three-year-old will endlessly repeat any four-letter words someone might happen to drop in front of him or her. The more you say, ''Don't say that; it's a bad word'' the more likely you are to hear it.

The Nazi epithet is so over-abused that there's even a rule concerning it on the Internet, called Godwin's Law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. Sooner or later, someone's going to resurrect the Nazis... and whoever does so is generally understood to have lost the argument.

Comparing someone to a Nazi involves far more of an emotional appeal than a factual argument, unless the person is, in fact, a card-carrying Nazi. If you're not actually discussing genocide and brutal world domination, the Nazi comparison is just plain offensive. What confuses most people is its frequent application to pretty much anybody to the ideological right of Lenin.

In fact, the Nazis were actually socialists by nature, not capitalists. In a 1927 speech, Hitler said, ''We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.''

The word ''Nazi'' is short for Nationalsozialistische deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, or National Socialist German Workers' Party. Hitler came to power by turning the unemployed, the working class, and the academic elitists against the rather conservative German republic. In fact, once he achieved power, anyone who questioned his policies was branded a ''conservative reactionary'' by the state press.

In a widely distributed 1932 pamphlet, Joseph Goebbels addressed the question of Socialism. ''We are socialists,'' he wrote, ''because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces.''

The Nazi Party platform contained 25 demands, adopted in 1920 and essentially unaltered at the time Hitler took power. Many of those socialist demands resonate far better with modern-day American liberals than Conservatives. Consider the following examples:

7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens.

Does this sound more akin to the liberal belief that the government is responsible for job losses or gains, or the conservative position that jobs are created by private enterprise (though helped or hindered by current economic policies)? Does it sound like a demand for welfare?

11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of rent-slavery.

This is aimed directly at landlords and large business owners. It hardly seems likely that capitalists and conservatives would insist that no one receive any money unless he personally earn it by doing the actual work themselves.

12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

If that doesn't sound like today's standard liberal hate speech against Halliburton, nothing ever will.

13. We demand the nationalization of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

Nationalization of industries is hardly in line with the conservative aim of privatization of industries. It's liberals, in general, who want to nationalize industries (starting with healthcare).

14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

Wealth redistribution? Does that sound like a particularly right-wing ideal?

15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

Republicans and conservatives are accused of wanting to halt Medicare and steal Social Security in every election cycle, so this demand for expansion could hardly be a part of any conservative agenda.

25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general.

Conservatives, who favor more limited government with lower taxes (in order to restrict its growth), would directly oppose a strong central government with unlimited authority (possibly resisting with guns, which German citizens first had to register, then surrender).

Despite the historical facts, liberals frequently insist on equating conservatives and Republicans to Nazis. This is only done to stir up feelings of hate, of course. If Democrats want to know why they keep losing elections, it's because they allow the left-wing politics of hatred to be their public face. Until the Democrats relegate liberals to the minority fringe where they belong, we will continue to see the country slide towards a one-party system, which would be detrimental to us all.

About the Writer: Joe Mariani is a computer consultant and freelance writer who lives in Pennsylvania. His website is available at: http://guardian.blogdrive.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agendas; conservatives; davidhoffman; georgesoros; georgewbush; hitler; kerrydefeat; leftwing; liberals; moveonorg; namecalling; nazis; policies; republicans; robertbyrd
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By now, we know that the "glitterati" are robotic, loud mouthpieces. With the exception of one Susan Sarandon (who has a degree in Drama), they're all unlettered college drop-outs or with only H.S. diplomas and are either willfully or functionally ignorant. No doubt when someone like Ronstadt calls this administration "Nazis," she more or less thinks she's right. . . . kinda sounds right to her...........ah-h-h.
1 posted on 11/26/2004 6:09:22 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
Ronstadt is more and more the overweight country-woman these days.

Her diet is too high in carbohydrates, and the sugar highs are punching holes in her brain tissue.

No doubt the end is near.

2 posted on 11/26/2004 6:14:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: CHARLITE
Why Calling Conservatives "Nazis" is Such an Inane, ignorant and Incongruous Remark.

Nothing more needs be said. How do you reason with a brick?

3 posted on 11/26/2004 6:14:06 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; faithincowboys; ..

ping


4 posted on 11/26/2004 6:15:24 PM PST by stockpirate (They still don't understand, Great! Looking forward to the next 4 years.)
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To: CHARLITE

In addition, Nazis had an anti industrial bent. Some 30 years ago various writers speculated the new home of the Nazi Party would be the environmental movement.


5 posted on 11/26/2004 6:15:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Publius6961

Logic is a terrible thing to waste.

Never try to debate with liars or fools.


7 posted on 11/26/2004 6:17:49 PM PST by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: CHARLITE
If Democrats want to know why they keep losing elections...


9 posted on 11/26/2004 6:25:55 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: CHARLITE

Liberals today even the elite are poorly educated.

Like my brother who has a degree in literature and has never been employed outside of a factory, they think a degree in a useless subject makes them masters of all knowledge.

They know nothing of history, real science, economics or logic but they claim the right to regulate what is taught as history, embrace pseudoscience and fuzzy math.

They are the epitome of the idiot class.


10 posted on 11/26/2004 6:28:08 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Free the Fallujah one.)
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To: Slyfox

Thats a scary photo, I WAS thinking about scarfing some stuffing........now I think I'll open the other bottle of wine. ;)


11 posted on 11/26/2004 6:29:19 PM PST by AirForceMom (The purpose of life is to fight maturity)
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To: CHARLITE
Since Hitler claimed to be a socialists,
and since the left seems to be in favor of socialization I wonder if they might not have it backwards
12 posted on 11/26/2004 6:37:54 PM PST by Grey Rabbit
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To: AirForceMom

Fear not. Just remember, Hillary is the best the devil can do.


13 posted on 11/26/2004 6:37:56 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: ZellsBells
there is a clear distinction between socialism and fascism

I guess one could be considered 'global socialism' and the other 'national socialism' but they're still socialism.
14 posted on 11/26/2004 6:39:15 PM PST by BJClinton (Honk if you love peace and quiet.)
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To: CHARLITE

Great article!


15 posted on 11/26/2004 6:41:02 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: Slyfox
She's just so disgustingly obnoxious, I still can't believe she was elected senator in my state.
16 posted on 11/26/2004 6:41:50 PM PST by AirForceMom (The purpose of life is to fight maturity)
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To: CHARLITE

Once again, we're being ''treated'' to the same tired old cries of liberal outrage. How dare the stupid people of America not whole-heartedly embrace liberal ideas and policies? Why, they must all be mind-controlled. They must all be... Nazis!

Good thing for them we're not. I wonder if they realize that? Probably not as they realize so little.

These morons remind me of a particularly spoiled two year old.


17 posted on 11/26/2004 6:41:52 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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To: AirForceMom

Don't feel bad these things happen, I've got Mark Dayton...Do I have to say more? :-)


18 posted on 11/26/2004 6:44:42 PM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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Bur...But.....those nice young people at DU assure themselves that Republicans are Nazis on a daily basis!


One does have to wonder what kind of fit they would have if this was posted there......

*moses over to DU to have a look see*


19 posted on 11/26/2004 6:46:11 PM PST by Newshues
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To: Frank_2001
If you liked this one, you'll also like the one I just now posted, by Burt Prelutsky who loves to put these ignorant celebrity DOLTS in their place! "Hollywood: Land of Naieve Liberals" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289130/posts Thanks for commenting, everyone! Char
20 posted on 11/26/2004 6:53:15 PM PST by CHARLITE
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