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Who poisoned Yushchenko?
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 12/08/04 | Jeremy Page

Posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:02 PM PST by Pokey78

Doctors at the Austrian clinic that treated Ukraine’s opposition leader confirm there was a plot to kill him

MEDICAL experts have confirmed that Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine’s opposition leader, was poisoned in an attempt on his life during election campaigning, the doctor who supervised his treatment at an Austrian clinic said yesterday.

Doctors at Vienna’s exclusive Rudolfinerhaus clinic are within days of identifying the substance that left Mr Yushchenko’s face disfigured with cysts and lesions, Nikolai Korpan told The Times in a telephone interview.

Specialists in Britain, the United States and France had helped to establish that it was a biological agent, a chemical agent or, most likely, a rare poison that struck him down in the run-up to the presidential election, he said. Doctors needed to examine Mr Yushchenko again at the clinic in Vienna to confirm their diagnosis but were in no doubt that the substance was administered deliberately, he said.

“This is no longer a question for discussion,” Dr Korpan said. “We are now sure that we can confirm which substance caused this illness. He received this substance from other people who had a specific aim.”

Asked if the aim had been to kill him, Dr Korpan said: “Yes, of course.”

Proof that Mr Yushchenko was deliberately poisoned would be a devastating blow for his rival, the Prime Minister, Viktor Yanukovych, as the two candidates prepare for a repeat of a presidential run-off on December 26.

It would raise questions about whether the poisoning was ordered by Mr Yanukovych, his allies, or even the Kremlin, which fears that Mr Yushchenko will take Ukraine out of its sphere of influence by joining Nato and the EU.

Mr Yushchenko had said recently that he would soon reveal proof that his opponents had tried to assassinate him, but a spokeswoman said he had no plans to travel to Vienna.

Mr Yushchenko fell ill on September 6 and was rushed to Rudolfinerhaus four days later with severe abdominal pain and lesions on his face and trunk. His liver, pancreas and intestines were swollen and his digestive tract covered in ulcers, but doctors could not explain the symptoms. Against their advice he went back on the campaign trail after a week, but returned to the clinic two weeks later with back pain.

Again he returned to campaigning, with his face half paralysed and a catheter inserted in his back so that doctors — still baffled — could inject painkillers into his spinal column.

Rudolfinerhaus doctors had previously said that they did not have medical evidence to back up or rule out deliberate poisoning.

Mr Yanukovych’s supporters ridiculed the opposition, saying the illness was probably caused by bad sushi, too much cognac or a severe case of herpes. A parliamentary investigation found no evidence of poisoning.

But Dr Korpan said that toxicologists and other experts at laboratories in Britain, the US and France had since examined Mr Yushchenko’s blood samples and medical records. “We will reveal the results in the near future and confirm the cause of this mysterious illness,” he said. “We need to check him again here in Vienna. If we received him today, we could finish the whole investigation in two or three days.”

He declined to say exactly what the substance might have been, or where it might have come from. “Maybe it was administered through injection, maybe in water, maybe through eating, but the way to give it to him is very simple. This substance can be given very precisely — to only one person,” he said.

John Henry, a prominent British toxicologist, has suggested that Mr Yushchenko’s symptoms were consistent with dioxin poisoning, which causes a severe form of acne called chloracne. Doctors at Rudolfinerhaus did not initially test Mr Yushchenko for dioxin, in part because his skin changes were not as severe as they are now. He also refused a biopsy of his face because he did not want to campaign with stitches. Other doctors have suggested that Mr Yushchenko may have been struck down by a rare illness. Dr Korpan said that Mr Yushchenko should be able to make a full recovery but needed to get back to the clinic. “We are waiting to check him as soon as possible and then we can say what he needs.”

He said Mr Yushchenko was no longer having injections, but was taking a combination of vitamins and medicine to boost his immune system.

The offices of Leonid Kuchma, the outgoing President, and Mr Yanukovych did not comment on Dr Korpan’s disclosure.

But Viktor Pinchuk, Mr Kuchma’s billionaire son-in-law, said in a recent interview he did not believe that there was evidence that Mr Yushchenko was poisoned.

“I believe he is sure it was poisoning. He’s not a liar. But some people from his camp created this provocation against him, his image, the government and the country,” he said.


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1 posted on 12/07/2004 3:11:02 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78

The old commies are at it again. how many USSR Premiers look get one day and the next thing you know they were on deaths door. And low and behold they died.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 3:16:32 PM PST by marty60
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To: Pokey78

3 posted on 12/07/2004 3:16:35 PM PST by sigSEGV
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To: Pokey78

He' suffering from exhaustion.


4 posted on 12/07/2004 3:17:21 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Pokey78; jan in Colorado

Gee, why does this have me thinking of Georgi Markov again....


5 posted on 12/07/2004 3:17:22 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Pokey78

BEFORE

6 posted on 12/07/2004 3:17:24 PM PST by bitt (I am smitten by the Prez.)
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To: Pokey78
"A parliamentary investigation found no evidence of poisoning."

Hah, that settles it then /s>

7 posted on 12/07/2004 3:17:34 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Pokey78

The KGB has a quite extensive knowlege of poisons which it has a history of using to dispose of its enemies.


8 posted on 12/07/2004 3:18:00 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Pokey78
This is a bombshell.

It is now confirmed that he was poisoned.

9 posted on 12/07/2004 3:19:08 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Pokey78
A Related Story

Check the pic out. Nasty.

10 posted on 12/07/2004 3:19:33 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78

Personally, I think there could be a lesson to be leaned here. A couple of 'em.


11 posted on 12/07/2004 3:21:11 PM PST by riri
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To: Pokey78
KGB Poison Umbrellas.
12 posted on 12/07/2004 3:21:11 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: riri

leaned-learned


13 posted on 12/07/2004 3:21:27 PM PST by riri
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To: Pokey78

hopefully we won't see our own domestic leftists adopt similar tactics in the near future.


14 posted on 12/07/2004 3:26:39 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Pokey78
"Other doctors have suggested that Mr Yushchenko may have been struck down by a rare illness."

Rare illness? Yeah, sure! You can be sure that if the Dems could get away with this sort of crap in this country, George Bush would be dead with a rare illness.

15 posted on 12/07/2004 3:27:11 PM PST by davisfh
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To: marty60
Yeah, but they have to be soiling their drawers over this one. They didn't kill him. He's the new Rasputin...
16 posted on 12/07/2004 3:37:15 PM PST by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Jokelahoma

Well in the old days, they couldn't run to an Austrian Clinic. (London or Paris) They were prisoners. I guess some of the old commies forgot, with freedom comes the ability to go to a REAL hospital.


17 posted on 12/07/2004 3:40:02 PM PST by marty60
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To: Destro

Ping for more from your favorite Austrian doctors. *along with the US and UK.

I know you trust these Austrians so this is the article for you.


18 posted on 12/07/2004 3:43:56 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: Jokelahoma

Great post Jokelahoma!!! He's the new Rasputin.. Great Analogy!


19 posted on 12/07/2004 3:44:29 PM PST by Odyssey-x
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To: Peach; Mo1

Poisoning ping


20 posted on 12/07/2004 3:46:37 PM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: prairiebreeze

Did you ever see the pictures posted over on Drudge of his face before and after? I've never seen such a dramatic change in anyone.

If we really wanted to freak out Hollywood (and who wouldn't like that!), we could send those two side by side pictures to our leftist friends and make them fear the terrorists could do this to their faces!


21 posted on 12/07/2004 3:48:04 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: Pokey78
That's a no brainer, most folks I know morph into that whenever they are subjected to an algore screaming rant. However, any deaniac contact will also cause a similar affect.
22 posted on 12/07/2004 3:48:08 PM PST by davetex
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To: Peach

Yeah that would scare the ykw out of them.


23 posted on 12/07/2004 3:50:13 PM PST by marty60
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To: Jokelahoma
"They didn't kill him. He's the new Rasputin..."

Throw him in the river.

24 posted on 12/07/2004 3:52:27 PM PST by blam
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To: Peach

I didn't see the "before" pics but certainly have since him since. And we think our campaign season is rough.


25 posted on 12/07/2004 3:55:06 PM PST by prairiebreeze (It's my right to publically celebrate Christmas and state my faith in Christ. At least for now.....)
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To: prairiebreeze

LOL!


26 posted on 12/07/2004 3:59:59 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists and international criminals than they ever captured or killed)
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To: sigSEGV

Are those actual before-and-after pictures? Unbelievable!

Those changes could not have been caused by bad sushi.


27 posted on 12/07/2004 4:45:20 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: First_Salute

The poor man looks dreadful. No use in pointing fingers and making allegations until there are actual suspects.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 4:54:10 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: Pokey78

Anyone know what his politics are? Is he a nationalist? A liberal? A conservative? Populist? Drug dealer from Mars?
Prayers for his recovery.


29 posted on 12/07/2004 4:55:34 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: texasflower

Why must you find a way to demean other nations even when working in cooperation? If this is patriotism I want no part of it. Especially since I am about 10% Austrian myself.


30 posted on 12/07/2004 4:59:26 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: sigSEGV

Oh my goodness, are those pix for real? How horrible!


31 posted on 12/07/2004 5:19:28 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Calpernia; DAVEY CROCKETT; liberallyconservative; Velveeta; SevenofNine; lacylu

Ping


32 posted on 12/07/2004 5:19:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (Today, please pray for God's miracle, we are not going to make it without him.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Those changes could not have been caused by bad sushi.

Reminds me of Jaws--"This was no boating accident!"

33 posted on 12/07/2004 5:28:29 PM PST by beaversmom (The greatness of a man is measured by the fatness of his wife)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I will take door #1

It would raise questions about whether the poisoning was ordered by Mr Yanukovych, his allies, or even the Kremlin, which fears that Mr Yushchenko will take Ukraine out of its sphere of influence by joining Nato and the EU.


34 posted on 12/07/2004 5:30:09 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Character exalts Liberty and Freedom, Righteous exalts a Nation.)
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To: followerofchrist; Destro
I am very sorry that my post was misunderstood. I have no personal experience with, or opinion of Austria or their physicians.

Rather, my post was directed to the person I pinged.

Truthfully, you probably should have recognized that since I pinged someone to the thread, there was probably some personal history there that would have led me to do that. A continuation of a previous discussion.

I have nothing but respect for our allies. This was NOT about them. This was about the person I pinged.

Now, briefly I will tell you what that was about. The person I pinged refused to believe that Yuschenko was poisoned because "an Austrian doctor" said he couldn't find any evidence of poison.

Despite lengthy posts to him, trying to get him to understand why poisoning was the most likely thing to have happened, from a MEDICAL viewpoint. He still persisted in quoting the same Austrian doctor.

Now, the Austrians are supporting the poison theory.

If Destro based his entire theory on the Austrian doctor, he needs to read the update.

I want to see what he thinks now.

Sorry you got upset. This is just another "freeper family" argument that you weren't part of, so you misunderstood my post.

Read my other posts if you doubt my patriotism. I assure you I am not a spy in your midst!

Have a Merry Christmas!
35 posted on 12/07/2004 6:32:31 PM PST by texasflower (Liberty can change habits. ~ President George W. Bush 10/08/04)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Don't let the rasPutin to take you out for lunch!!
It could be detrimental to your health.
Nothing new, commies were "taking care" of nationalists, oposition for ages. Some don't make it through the "cold", some are "lucky" to escape with deformed face.


36 posted on 12/07/2004 6:38:54 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (Slava Ukraini!)
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To: Leo Carpathian
Don't let the rasPutin to take you out for lunch!!

That's funny :-)

37 posted on 12/07/2004 7:02:19 PM PST by Lexinom (Please say a prayer for Josiah - a 12-year-old boy with brain cancer)
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To: sigSEGV

holy crap. Will his face ever get better??


38 posted on 12/07/2004 7:06:55 PM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: sigSEGV

what a metamorphosis. I hope they can treat/cure him. Chances are the poison did systemic damage and they'll have to treat his internal organs which probably resemble his skin. Saying they'll know in five days approx. what the substance was.


39 posted on 12/07/2004 7:11:22 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: Pokey78

BEFORE

AFTER

WOW!! He was a really good looking guy!! Bless his heart- I can't imagine.

40 posted on 12/07/2004 7:15:18 PM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: texasflower; Destro
If Destro based his entire theory on the Austrian doctor, he needs to read the update

Soros probably paid them to say this. /sarcasm

41 posted on 12/07/2004 7:18:19 PM PST by cicero's_son
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DIOXIN POISONING???? From world net daily (excerpt) Maybe it was administered through injection, maybe in water, maybe through eating, but the way to give it to him is very simple. This substance can be given very precisely – to only one person," he said.

John Henry, a clinical toxicologist at St. Mary's Hospital in London, told Nature that Yushchenko's disfiguring acne was almost certainly "chloracne," a characteristic symptom of dioxin poisoning.

42 posted on 12/07/2004 7:21:16 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: blam; All

Hey how many time Rasputin was shot before they throw his a*** in the river

20 times damn I see more bullet shoot off in Godfather 1


44 posted on 12/07/2004 7:23:15 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: lawgirl

Yes, even his skin changed colors to a green pallor. I feel bad for the guy. They want him back to Vienna asap so they can finish the diagnosis. I think the lesions will go away with meds but the cysts might have to be surgically removed. I hope they do a complete body scan while they're at it. He was also in horrible pain. If his opponent did this to him, that guy could be arrested for attempted murder but I bet there are layers of minions separating the two.


45 posted on 12/07/2004 7:24:50 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: SevenofNine

I thought they stabbed & poisoned Rasputin to start things off or was that just in the mini-series on him?


46 posted on 12/07/2004 7:26:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (www,conservative-spirit.org (Mine))
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To: floriduh voter

I realize that Yushchenko is not perfect (why does it seem that Russia and the former states are so corrupt?) but no one deserves looking handsome one day and looking terrible the next just for his ideals.

Prayers for him and his country. I work closely with two Ukranians and they are worried about their homeland.


47 posted on 12/07/2004 7:30:06 PM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: lawgirl

bump


48 posted on 12/07/2004 8:04:54 PM PST by lawgirl (Proud 2 time voter for George W. Bush as of 7:21 AM CST, November 2, 2004. LUVYA DUBYA!!)
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To: followerofchrist

He's pro-Western, to the point where he might want to get Ukraine into NATO. STRATFOR did an analysis of the Ukraine election and why Moscow is so desperate over it; run a search.


49 posted on 12/07/2004 9:01:46 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: lawgirl
Will his face ever get better??

I don't think anyone knows.

I think it's interesting that when Putin went to Japan in the past week or so, there was a report that not only did he take his own silverware to use when eating, but they made sure to clean it carefully with vodka before he used it.

50 posted on 12/07/2004 9:13:41 PM PST by texasbluebell
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