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Fringe On The U.S. Flag What Does It Mean? Admiralty Courts in Colorado?
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Posted on 12/07/2004 7:38:13 PM PST by Pharmboy

Patriots are subjected to much ridicule when they object to [Admiralty flag] the flag that appears in every government office and courtroom in the land. That flag is the United States flag... with one seemingly minor cosmetic difference - a knotted golden fringe on three sides.

Government officials and judges adamantly refuse requests to remove the gold fringed flag and replace it with the constitutional flag of the United States as defined in 4 U.S.C. Section 1,2, and 3 - which has NO fringe.

Why should anyone be concerned about this apparently innocent decorative feature? What difference does it make?

The difference is that the flag that is displayed is legal notice, to all who enter, of the type of law that holds jurisdiction. The constitutional United States flag signifies common law jurisdiction.

The gold fringed United States flag is the Admiralty or War flag which denotes Admiralty or martial law.

Hogwash, you say? Is there no Admiralty Court claiming jurisdiction in America except in matters that occur on the high seas? Think again! Just as the founders of this country railed against the King for extending Admiralty law to the lands of the Colonies, so are those few patriots who have paid attention to the corruption of our legal system, raising a hue and a cry over the current usurpers of jurisprudence.

Rocky Mountain News Wed. May 22, 1996 Legal Notices Section The legal notices here displayed concern property seized by Federal agents as booty under Admiralty law. Notice is required so that anyone who might have an interest in the property seized has opportunity to seek to protect his interest.

One would not be wise to attempt this, though. Most likely, any excuse will be used to allege that the party claiming interest in the property was a party to the alleged offense that resulted in the original seizure.

The allegation is enough to justify the taking of property - under Admiralty law guilt is presumed. The claimant might well lose other property not yet in the hands of these landgoing pirates, even though no actual conviction of any offense is ever entered. Check your local paper's legal notices. Look into the cases cited and see if any conviction occurs - or if any charges were even filed - against the persons whose property was seized.

Colorado is a long ways from the ocean. Admiralty law is farther still from the common law recognized under Federal and State constitutions.

You decide... are these patriots kooks? Or have we been blind to the tyranny that is even now upon us?

More Evidence on the Flag Issue Our official courts today are all operating under admiralty jurisdiction, except the court of Claims in Washington D.C. which remains under the common law...You can easily identify an admiralty court by noting the presence of a gold fringed flag in the court room. This is a military flag which denotes admiralty jurisdiction within that court... " Sizes and Ocassions for Display

National flags listed below are for indoor display and for use in ceremonies and parades. For these purposes the United States flag will be rayon banner cloth, trimmed on three sides with golden fringe, 2.5 inches wide. It will be the same size as the flags displayed or carried with it.

Aurthorization for indoor display. Each military courtoom." Army Regulation 840-10, October 1 1979

Admiralty and Maritime, Military Law


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To: Pharmboy
what does it really mean? Help me out here, Freepers... 4 U.S.C. Section 1,2, and 3:

Section 1

TITLE 4--FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES

CHAPTER 1--THE FLAG

Sec. 1. Flag; stripes and stars on

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be forty-eight stars, white in a blue field.

(July 30, 1947, ch. 389, 61 Stat. 642.)

Short Title of 2000 Amendment

Pub. L. 106-252, Sec. 1, July 28, 2000, 114 Stat. 626, provided that: ``This Act [enacting sections 116 to 126 of this title and provisions set out as a note under section 116 of this title] may be cited as the `Mobile Telecommunications Sourcing Act'.''

Executive Order No. 10798

Ex. Ord. No. 10798, Jan. 3, 1959, 24 F.R. 79, which prescribed proportions and sizes of flags until July 4, 1960, was revoked by section 33 of Ex. Ord. No. 10834, set out as a note under this section.

Ex. Ord. No. 10834. Proportions and Sizes of Flags and Position of Stars

Ex. Ord. No. 10834, Aug. 21, 1959, 24 F.R. 6865, provided:
WHEREAS the State of Hawaii has this day been admitted into the Union; and
WHEREAS section 2 of title 4 of the United States Code provides as follows: ``On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission.''; and
WHEREAS the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 (63 Stat. 377), as amended [see Short Title note under section 471 of Title 40, Public Buildings, Property, and Works] authorizes the President to prescribe policies and directives governing the procurement and utilization of property by executive agencies; and
WHEREAS the interests of the Government require that orderly and reasonable provision be made for various matters pertaining to the flag and that appropriate regulations governing the procurement and utilization of national flags and union jacks by executive agencies be prescribed:
NOW, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States and as Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the United States, and the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949, as amended [see Short Title note under section 471 of Title 40, Public Buildings, Property, and Works], it is hereby ordered as follows:

Part I--Design of the Flag

Section 1. The flag of the United States shall have thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white, and a union consisting of white stars on a field of blue.

Sec. 2. The positions of the stars in the union of the flag and in the union jack shall be as indicated on the attachment to this order, which is hereby made a part of this order.

Sec. 3. The dimensions of the constituent parts of the flag shall conform to the proportions set forth in the attachment referred to in section 2 of this order.

Part II--Regulations Governing Executive Agencies

Sec. 21. The following sizes of flags are authorized for executive agencies:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dimensions of Flag

Sec. 22. Flags manufactured or purchased for the use of executive agencies:
(a) Shall conform to the provisions of Part I of this order, except as may be otherwise authorized pursuant to the provisions of section 24, or except as otherwise authorized by the provisions of section 21, of this order.
(b) Shall conform to the provisions of section 21 of this order, except as may be otherwise authorized pursuant to the provisions of section 24 of this order.
Sec. 23. The exterior dimensions of each union jack manufactured or purchased for executive agencies shall equal the respective exterior dimensions of the union of a flag of a size authorized by or pursuant to this order. The size of the union jack flown with the national flag shall be the same as the size of the union of that national flag.
Sec. 24. (a) The Secretary of Defense in respect of procurement for the Department of Defense (including military colors) and the Administrator of General Services in respect of procurement for executive agencies other than the Department of Defense may, for cause which the Secretary or the Administrator, as the case may be, deems sufficient, make necessary minor adjustments in one or more of the dimensions or proportionate dimensions prescribed by this order, or authorize proportions or sizes other than those prescribed by section 3 or section 21 of this order.
(b) So far as practicable, (1) the actions of the Secretary of Defense under the provisions of section 24(a) of this order, as they relate to the various organizational elements of the Department of Defense, shall be coordinated, and (2) the Secretary and the Administrator shall mutually coordinate their actions under that section.
Sec. 25. Subject to such limited exceptions as the Secretary of Defense in respect of the Department of Defense, and the Administrator of General Services in respect of executive agencies other than the Department of Defense, may approve, all national flags and union jacks now in the possession of executive agencies, or hereafter acquired by executive agencies under contracts awarded prior to the date of this order, including those so possessed or so acquired by the General Services Administration, for distribution to other agencies, shall be utilized until unserviceable.

Part III--General Provisions

Sec. 31. The flag prescribed by Executive Order No. 10798 of January 3, 1959, shall be the official flag of the United States until July 4, 1960, and on that date the flag prescribed by Part I of this order shall become the official flag of the United States; but this section shall neither derogate from section 24 or section 25 of this order nor preclude the procurement, for executive agencies, of flags provided for by or pursuant to this order at any time after the date of this order.

Sec. 32. As used in this order, the term ``executive agencies'' means the executive departments and independent establishments in the executive branch of the Government, including wholly-owned Government corporations.

Sec. 33. Executive Order No. 10798 of January 3, 1959, is hereby revoked.

Dwight D. Eisenhower./S

Standard proportions

Sec. 2. Same; additional stars

On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission.

(July 30, 1947, ch. 389, 61 Stat. 642.)

TITLE 4--FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES

CHAPTER 1--THE FLAG

Sec. 3. Use of flag for advertising purposes; mutilation of flag

Any person who, within the District of Columbia, in any manner, for exhibition or display, shall place or cause to be placed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, drawing, or any advertisement of any nature upon any flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America; or shall expose or cause to be exposed to public view any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign upon which shall have been printed, painted, or otherwise placed, or to which shall be attached, appended, affixed, or annexed any word, figure, mark, picture, design, or drawing, or any advertisement of any nature; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall manufacture, sell, expose for sale, or to public view, or give away or have in possession for sale, or to be given away or for use for any purpose, any article or substance being an article of merchandise, or a receptacle for merchandise or article or thing for carrying or transporting merchandise, upon which shall have been printed, painted, attached, or otherwise placed a representation of any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign, to advertise, call attention to, decorate, mark, or distinguish the article or substance on which so placed shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by a fine not exceeding $100 or by imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both, in the discretion of the court. The words ``flag, standard, colors, or ensign'', as used herein, shall include any flag, standard, colors, ensign, or any picture or representation of either, or of any part or parts of either, made of any substance or represented on any substance, of any size evidently purporting to be either of said flag, standard, colors, or ensign of the United States of America or a picture or a representation of either, upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in any number of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the average person seeing the same without deliberation may believe the same to represent the flag, colors, standard, or ensign of the United States of America.

(July 30, 1947, ch. 389, 61 Stat. 642; Pub. L. 90-381, Sec. 3, July 5, 1968, 82 Stat. 291.)

Amendments 1968--Pub. L. 90-381 struck out ``; or who, within the District of Columbia, shall publicly mutilate, deface, defile or defy, trample upon, or cast contempt, either by word or act, upon any such flag, standard, colors, or ensign,'' after ``substance on which so placed''.


101 posted on 12/09/2004 3:35:01 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: colorado tanker
Admiralty law rarely has anything to do with martial law, but mostly has to do with what happens when a ship is damaged or a cargo is screwed up.

And formerly was confined to domestic American matters involving states which had coastal areas, but more recently, has been *reinterpreted* by the federal courts to include and states which have a federal waterway [river] as a boundary of that state, or adjoining any other "Federal Waterway". The Lake of the Ozarks, for instance....

102 posted on 12/09/2004 3:39:14 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Pharmboy

103 posted on 12/09/2004 3:41:45 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Pharmboy

It's the numbers and symbols on the backs of road signs that bother me. Is it an secret code to give road directions to the future massive invasion by the Bilderbergers?


104 posted on 12/09/2004 3:42:29 PM PST by Modok
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To: archy

Yep. Reminds me of the project dreamed up by some easterners in the 19th Century to run riverboats up the South Platte to Denver - until they found out that in places the South Platte is about a half mile wide and a foot deep. So, the Rocky Mountain Navy is pretty small. :)


105 posted on 12/09/2004 3:49:34 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: colorado tanker

Seems like a lot of things in Colorado are pretty shallow.


106 posted on 12/09/2004 3:51:01 PM PST by Modok
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To: american spirit; SteveH
I've heard about the B.A.R. but unless it can be verified without a doubt I don't want to go down that road....any other ideas what it could mean?

The "bar" is the wooden railing in the courtroom that separates the spectator section from the section where the lawyers sit. When one is licensed to practice law, they are "admitted to the bar." Associations of lawyers in the United States are therefore called "bar associations." There is nothing sinister about it, honest.

107 posted on 12/09/2004 4:05:53 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: archy
And formerly was confined to domestic American matters involving states which had coastal areas, but more recently, has been *reinterpreted* by the federal courts to include and states which have a federal waterway [river] as a boundary of that state, or adjoining any other "Federal Waterway". The Lake of the Ozarks, for instance....

At least since the time the Constitution was ratified (actually, I think the rule goes back to colonial times), federal admiralty jurisdiction has extended to all "navigable waters," which certainly included lakes and rivers. This is not a recent reinterpretation.

108 posted on 12/09/2004 4:08:55 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Pharmboy

I am not concerned about the gold trim around the flag. However, I am very concerned that the flag pole is made from illegally logged wood products from endangered species imported from China.


109 posted on 12/09/2004 4:11:37 PM PST by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: american spirit; SteveH
More on the "bar" here.
110 posted on 12/09/2004 4:12:18 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Modok
Ooooh, that's gonna draw a penalty flag.
111 posted on 12/09/2004 4:24:02 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Pharmboy

Hmmmmm...East of the Rockies the number is XXXXXXXXXX, the Wild Card line is open........


112 posted on 12/09/2004 4:25:52 PM PST by investigateworld ((Please Lord, just one more bite on the apple ))
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To: colorado tanker

I heard a jet fly over I think the attack is underway!


113 posted on 12/09/2004 6:34:39 PM PST by Modok
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To: archy

Uh-oh...they're coming for me.


114 posted on 12/09/2004 6:40:48 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: Modok

...but do they know to always eat where the semis are parked because the truckers know the best road places to eat at?


115 posted on 12/09/2004 6:42:15 PM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: Pharmboy

I don't know if thats correct, I will have to go and do some research.


116 posted on 12/09/2004 6:48:04 PM PST by Modok
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To: Constantine XIII
Did I make it up on the fly?

Yep. I had a brother who was into weird cults, and he, of course, emailed us and told us all about them. All I did was compile and scramble a bunch of them together to make up my story. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Maybe I'll write a fictional book. NOT!

117 posted on 12/09/2004 7:50:01 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Army Air Corps
The granddaddy of all conspiracies is the Fluoridation of water. It is my personal favorite.
118 posted on 12/09/2004 7:53:04 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: Texasforever

Oh yes, that one is as goofy as the Planet X and the Secret Alien Cities on the Moon theories.


119 posted on 12/09/2004 8:15:49 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Half a league, half a league rode the MSM into the valley of obscurity)
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To: KC Burke

In your post where it’s mentioned ‘The gold trim is found on ceremonial flags, to be used indoors and for ceremonies only.’ The last part of that statement is only. Doesn’t this statement then mean that use of the gold trim is only for what is listed in this statement?


120 posted on 04/06/2014 9:08:21 AM PDT by mmdoggie
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