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Michael Moore: Hillary a Star in 2008
NewsMax ^ | Dec 18, 2004 | Limbacher

Posted on 12/18/2004 9:49:53 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Conspiracy filmmaker-turned-political strategist Michael Moore is touting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Party's star presidential candidate in 2008, saying that women in America would turn out in droves to vote her back into the White House.

In quotes first reported by California's Santa Monica Mirror, Moore told Democrats gathered last week at a Pacific Palisades home, "Hillary is a star. She walks into a room and it lights up."

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Saying his party needed to nominate "a candidate people want to watch," Moore contended that Clinton would be hugely popular with female voters, especially single-moms. "Poor, disenfranchised, single moms - they will come out to vote if they believe their life will be better," Moore predicted. "Don’t give them a candidate with a confusing message."

The single-mom vote is critical to the party's success in 2008, he said, because they make up a disproportionate percentage of the 70 million people who did not vote in 2004.

The conspiracy filmmaker does have one problem with a Clinton candidacy, however, complaining that she’s been hawkish on the war in Iraq.


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1 posted on 12/18/2004 9:49:54 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Gag Alert.


2 posted on 12/18/2004 9:52:09 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Who cares? By the time the '08 campaign starts, Billory will most likely be disgraced by something else she's done and Moore will have exploded sue to excessive eating.

I'm fully savoring '04 for the next 3 years.
3 posted on 12/18/2004 9:53:20 AM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well, here's an early kiss of death for the Hildabeast's presidential aspirations, straight from ol' Pig Dung himself.


4 posted on 12/18/2004 9:53:30 AM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: ChicagoRighty

sue=due


5 posted on 12/18/2004 9:53:44 AM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Great news! The Michael Moore Curse is now on Hillary!


6 posted on 12/18/2004 9:54:19 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I bet Michael Moore won't even be allowed to cater the 2008 DemocRAT convention.
7 posted on 12/18/2004 9:54:24 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: sgtbono2002

Oh Man. I guess. Think any female Freepers will respond to this one?


8 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:01 AM PST by LowInMo ("Toilet paper is a waste of natural resources."- Dan Brownfinger- 1964)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Actually this is goog news. Michael Moore hawking Hillary this early is probably something that she really doesn't want. It will likely work against her.


9 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:04 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well... let's encourage Michael Moore to become an official political strategist for the Dems. This will inevitably result in a solid GOP victory in 2008.
10 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:11 AM PST by Kurt_D
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To: Viking2002

Exactly!


11 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:34 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This is terrific news.
Michael Moore kills every campaign he touches. The campaigns of both Wesley Clark and John Kerry were destined for the ash heap after MM endorsed them.
He has killed Hillary's campaign in the cradle.


12 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:54 AM PST by srm913
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Poor, disenfranchised, single moms - they will come out to vote if they believe their life will be better," Moore predicted. "Don’t give them a candidate with a confusing message."

Every time I see this word misused, it reminds me of that episode of the Man Show, where they had a petition to 'End Women's Suffrage'. They had tons of women sign it until someone finally caught on.

Anyway, Hillary! is would be the best candidate ever. For us. There are vast legions of people who are ironclad, unshakable supporters of Hillary!, but twice that number would move heaven and earth to mobilize voters against her.

13 posted on 12/18/2004 9:55:55 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If a braying jackass speaks and nobody pays attention was there a sound?


14 posted on 12/18/2004 9:56:48 AM PST by jmaroneps37 ( Frist/ Blackwell in 2008 for a landslide: you saw it here first.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I bet Michael Moore won't even be allowed to cater the 2008 DemocRAT convention.

Of course he wouldn't! Can you picture the adventures of Michael Moore, Caterer?

"Okay, I've got your order here... let's see... that's fifteen empty pie tins, ten racks of beef bones, picked clean, and one order of scalloped potatoes with the cheese crust pre-removed for your convenience."

"HEY! That's not what we ordered!"

"Gotta run!" (screeching tires)

15 posted on 12/18/2004 9:57:18 AM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Fresh from his rousing success with getting Kerry defeated, Moore now looks to doom the chances of Hitlery's 08 coup.

I doubt Hitlery appreciates Moore's efforts on her behalf.
16 posted on 12/18/2004 9:58:02 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: Politicalities

And blubbering belly. Good one.


17 posted on 12/18/2004 9:59:06 AM PST by ChicagoRighty (Surrounded by libbies and damn tired of it!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Here we go....get ready for the HITLERY all the time in your face from the OMWhores!! 4yrs of coming HELL!! I hope and pray the GOP is ready to combat HITLERY and her butt licking mediaWHORES, and HELLywood! GAWD, it's going to be a long 4 miserable years of nothing but the BEAST of NY! Watch, I bet you in the few months to come the WITCH will all of sudden find religion!! This MONSTER is going to be VERY difficult to defeat....:(
18 posted on 12/18/2004 9:59:08 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Poor, disenfranchised, single moms - they will come out to vote if they believe their life will be better,"

Hillary certainly is a role model for women. Just look at how well she handled her own marriage...

19 posted on 12/18/2004 9:59:59 AM PST by Snardius
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To: Snardius
"Did you hear that everybody...I'm a star!"


20 posted on 12/18/2004 10:01:40 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
women in America would turn out in droves to vote her back into the White House.

Only liberal women, and they're going to vote for the 'rat candidate anyway.

21 posted on 12/18/2004 10:04:32 AM PST by alnick
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To: RoseofTexas

Right you are!
Those who dismiss her as easily beatable, do so at their own peril.
Make no mistake about it, she and her 'brown shirts' are a powerful force to be reckoned with.


22 posted on 12/18/2004 10:06:51 AM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: ChicagoRighty

I'm loving the fact that MMoore fashions himself a spokesperson for the democratic party. Can it get any better than that?


23 posted on 12/18/2004 10:07:45 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs on the coffee table.)
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To: alnick

Only liberal women, and they're going to vote for the 'rat candidate anyway.
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Yes, they would vote for Karl Marx or Joseph Stalin too, if one of them was WEARING THE DEMOCRAT NAME TAG!!!
The far-left libs are going to have to clean house before they have a candidate that is NOT A MARXIST and appeals to America, and not its sad, leftist fringe. I don't see any Americans in the Democrat camp --- except for one -- Zell Miller.


24 posted on 12/18/2004 10:08:22 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

25 posted on 12/18/2004 10:09:26 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I hope he is as right as he was this past election.

Why do democraps listen to him again??


26 posted on 12/18/2004 10:10:11 AM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: sgtbono2002

Considering how WRONG he was about the 2004 election and the facts (or lack of them) in F9/11... I say he'll be just as wrong in his prediction that all women will vote for Hillary....especially if Condi's in the picture.


27 posted on 12/18/2004 10:12:15 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

LOLOL.....how long till her thighness distances herself from Moore the boor.


28 posted on 12/18/2004 10:15:35 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Steel Wolf
"...Hillary! is would be the best candidate ever. For us..."

Respectfully, folks, I disagree. Hillary Rodham's (I'm predicting that she'll change her name to jettison "Clinton/impeachment/pardon baggage) tentacles reach deeply into NEWS and INTERTAINMENT media, as well as EDUCATION and BIG LABOR. She will be a formidable candidate because information she controls.

Compounding our problem will be potential renegade Republicans (I suspect Mc Cain, but there are others) who could be easily manipulated by the Clintons to run as a third party for some spiteful self aggrandizement.

It's going to be a real barnburner of a 4-year campaign. Freepers, fortunately, are up to the task!

29 posted on 12/18/2004 10:16:41 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I guess Moore decided to ignore Ralph Nader's accusations of Moore being a shill for the Democrat Party.
30 posted on 12/18/2004 10:21:19 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Stupid grandma leaver-outers!"--Tom Servo)
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"She will be a formidable candidate because information she controls."

And because she's clever like a fox. Her campaign wouldn't have made any of the mistakes that Kerry's did. And she's already re-inventing herself as a "moderate".


31 posted on 12/18/2004 10:29:55 AM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This is TERRIBLE news. The Moore endorsement will likely torpedo Hillary's chances for 2008.

She's my favorite Democrat because her negatives are so high that she doesn't a chance of winning if she were nominated.


32 posted on 12/18/2004 10:30:54 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: RBroadfoot

Oh, please endorse me, Mikey. Please!

...and BTW, don't you throw me in the briar patch either.

Let's just hope the DUmmies stay in the dark.


33 posted on 12/18/2004 10:36:04 AM PST by GOP_Proud ("Get your hands off him!" (President George W. Bush))
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Yea, keep talking Mikey boy. Given the Clinton M.O., I wouldn't be going on any long trips if I were you, Mike! TOO FUNNY!!!!


34 posted on 12/18/2004 10:41:42 AM PST by Hildy ( The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue)
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To: MisterRepublican

Consider Dean and ask how she takes out Moore.


35 posted on 12/18/2004 10:46:04 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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Ah..the kiss of death! Anyone familiar with the curse of the Sports Illustrated cover??? Fata$$ is starting his own based on foolish political predictions...."Hillary is a star. She walks into a room and it lights up." .....at one time they said the same thing about Jim Morrison and look what happened to him!!
36 posted on 12/18/2004 10:51:53 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: sgtbono2002

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42001


37 posted on 12/18/2004 11:04:58 AM PST by Kerry Crusher
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To: Roccus
After listening to Dick Morris on Fox last week, I started worrying about Hillary. By the time you are done with four years of the media touting her, you'd think that she was already President and you'd be voting for her "re-election" rather than her first time round. But, here are some questions about her run:

Which Southern states would she carry?

Between now and the 2008 election, about 1.5 million of our current sr. citizens will die. That is the most liberal generation because they remembered FDR and the Dems during the Depression and WWII and many were union guys during the 50's and 60's. This is also the age group most opposed to changing social security. They decrease in population while....

The ranks of people who are now freshmen in high school will become the voters of 2008. The younger age groups are the most willing to change social security (71%), which is the beginning of the dismantling of the programs Hillary and the Dems most need to keep their power base solid. Furthermore....

Within four years many college students of today will be working, married, and have children, a naturally maturing process. The stay-at-home-mom is not an abnormality within that age group, and that is one group of women that does not relate to Hillary.

Out of wedlock births are down--lowering Hillary's "single mom" base.

If she thinks that she can re-package herself as a conservative, she better think twice. First, there are a million miles of footage showing her ranting and raving about abortion, gay rights, blah, blah, blah. Also, real liberals within the party won't like that and will give her a fight. Think Dean is going to just roll over for the Clinton's? Plagarist Biden announced he's going to run in '08--think that is just to be her VP? These guys have egos, too, and they covered Clinton's rump before. Are they going to bend over and take it again without a fight? Almost everytime Clinton campaigns for someone, he loses.

Hillary will get loads of money and constant free media attention, if anybody is still watching four years from now. She will not get the "women's vote" that they think she can bring because her new swing will turn off as many as it attracts. She will not get the white male vote and the black voters marginalized themselves after this election. (Blacks are becoming a smaller percentage of the population anyway.) Think Hillary is going to start speaking Spanish to attract Latinos? Think she's going to be able to bring up some new great plan to solve a national "crisis"? She doesn't want to revisit Hillary-care.

In the end, Hillary getting the nomination muchless winning the Presidency is not guaranteed regardless of how any Dem or pollster wants to spin this.

Our job is to keep being visionaries, moving in the right direction fighting the good fight, and finding the best candidate to battle such evil.

38 posted on 12/18/2004 11:06:47 AM PST by MHT
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To: Seaplaner

I fully expect McCain to be part of an '08 ticket. My questions about him are twofold--what about his health and battles with skin cancer and what about his wife's (mental) health? Are they up to the demands a real run would take?


39 posted on 12/18/2004 11:09:01 AM PST by MHT
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"Hillary is a star. She walks into a room and it lights up."




And a skunk doesn't even have to be in the room to bless you with a french fragrance.


40 posted on 12/18/2004 11:11:19 AM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: RBroadfoot
Pollsters (probably Zogby-inspired) already show her beating Jeb, Frist, etc., by 10%, although 20% were still undecided. She will get the usual Dem base of 40%. These polls are way too early and too dependent on name recognition, in which case she beats everyone put together.

And after the last election and the great job the pollsters did, I wonder if we will ever be able to trust anything they say again.

41 posted on 12/18/2004 11:11:33 AM PST by MHT
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"Hillary is a star"

Let me guess the constellation:
Cancer - the crab
Serpens - the snake
Taurus - the bull
Equuleus - the little horse - specifically the star in the horses rear.


42 posted on 12/18/2004 11:13:29 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: srm913
Michael Moore kills every campaign he touches. The campaigns of both Wesley Clark and John Kerry were destined for the ash heap after MM endorsed them.

Hmmm! You don't suppose that every Michael Moore action is really an extraordinarily Machiavellian maneuver choreographed by Karl Rove?

Naah!

43 posted on 12/18/2004 11:22:31 AM PST by IonImplantGuru (PhD, School of Hard Knocks)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Says who?

Oh yes, Michael "Mass Graves" Moore:

44 posted on 12/18/2004 11:23:34 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Hey larda$$, allow me to paraphrase Sojourner Truth:

That [fat] man over there say a woman [will vote for hillary]. Nobody [who knows me could imagine that i'd vote for hillary under any circumstances] And ain't I a woman?

45 posted on 12/18/2004 11:36:53 AM PST by NYpeanut (gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, "Why did you lie to me?")
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To: sgtbono2002
saying that women in America would turn out in droves to vote her back into the White House.

Dems always seem to view all women as wishywashy radical left-wing feminists, who are easily swayed by other powerful women. But many of us women are either conservatively-minded or simply aren't so easily persuaded as they like to think. Plus, what kind of minority feminist upperhand will they have when Condi Rice runs against Hillary in '08?? Sure, I know the Dems are very much at ease with bashing strong conservative black women. The Dems came out of the Bush vs Kerry race looking like big a$$ hypocrites --trying to appeal to pro and anti-war people and industry and environmentalists all at the same time. I imagine they would expose even more ugly bigotted sides after a Condi vs Hillary race.

46 posted on 12/18/2004 11:46:01 AM PST by Sally II
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"Hillary is a star. She walks into a room and it lights up."

Those are the Emergency Alert Lights going off indicating dangerous fumes from Ol' Crusty!

47 posted on 12/18/2004 12:03:21 PM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Hillary is a star. She walks into a room and it lights up."

Those are the Emergency Alert Lights going off indicating dangerous fumes from Ol' Crusty!

48 posted on 12/18/2004 12:03:39 PM PST by beyond the sea (Can boys join the Camp Fire Girls? ....... Only after lights out.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If Hillary is planning to hook her "star" to Moore .. she's already in outer space and unelectible.


49 posted on 12/18/2004 12:08:35 PM PST by The Final Harvest (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"Poor, disenfranchised, single moms - they will come out to vote if they believe their life will be better,"

So what Mike's basically saying here is the campaign will hinge on whether or not these gals can be duped.


50 posted on 12/18/2004 12:14:59 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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