Why Arabs Lose Wars

de Atkine ^ | December 1999 | Norvell B. De Atkine, U.S Army (Ret.)

[JRandomFreeper]

A weapons system brings with it specific maintenance and logistics procedures, policies, and even a philosophy(ed.), all of them based on U.S. culture,

Great read, great post. Once again, Sect. Rumsfeld's focus on a joint doctine proves that he is a great leader of warriors.

We Americans have a wonderful legacy of DOCTRINE that guides us. From Sun Tzu to Gen. von Steuben to Gen. Washington to Gen. LeMay, to Gen. Jumper, doctrine guides warfare. And we win.

/john

[JRandomFreeper]

why is America conceding the propaganda war to America-haters?

Because Congress, in its wisdom, shut down the Pentagon information office, right after Sect. Rumsfeld took over. The press helped, but we know what side the press is on.

/john

[GSlob]

"Seems like a waste for Egypt to buy High tech items."
Would be a harmless waste if one was sure the high tech remained there. I remember reading it somewhere that the Chinese 'technicians' were very much interested in Patriot missiles stationed in Saudi Arabia (?) after 1991.

[ops33]

During the first Gulf War I led a team of 10 USAF air traffic controllers that deployed to an air base in Oman. We were sent to augment the Omani AF controllers. Before we arrived it was a sleepy little base with little traffic, basically one aircraft in, one aircraft out. When we arrived there were 2 squadrons of US fighters, 2 squadrons of RAF fighters and 2 squadrons of C-130's. The Omanis, while they tried to run the traffic as best they could, were completly lost. They did not have the training or procedures to work that much traffic. Everytime I made a suggestion to the Omani Major that ran their air traffic he came up with some reason to shoot it down. It was very frustrating, traffic wasn't moving the way it should, and we had definite flight safety problems. Suprisingly, I found my solution while talking to our Chaplain. He had some experience with dealing with the Arabs and he told me that basically they were like children. When I made my suggestions on how to restructure their airspace what I was telling the Omani Major was not that it needed improvement, but rather that there was something wrong with what he had been doing. That was not just an insult to him but also to his father, his grandfather, etc., and would only make him lose face. Additionally, as an officer, he would lose face in implementing a suggestion given to him by a seniro NCO, a mere enlisted man. My solution to the problem was this; I would speak to him about some changes I thought might be needed to change the airspace structure or a departure procedure. He would pretend to listen politely and thank me for the info. I would come back a couple of days later and tell him that I had spoken with my commander about HIS suggestions and tell him my commander thought that they were good ideas. By making him think that there were his ideas to begin with, and endorsed by a USAF officer, he would then go about implementing what I had wanted all along. Worked everytime!

[El Gato]

Now I'd like ti see the author do a paper on why the United States is so inept in the public relations front and is seemingly unable able to counter the likes of Al-Jezeera and other Arab and European propaganda mills

Because, for the most part, our own mainstream media is on the other side, or at least on any side not American. They are with the terrorists IOW. A good illustration of this was today. Rummy's visit to Iraq was featured on the front page of the Omaha paper, but was nowhere to be found in the Lincoln paper. It might show in tomorrow's editions, but since I'm in Lincoln you'd think a late breaking story more likely to make the Lincoln paper than the Omaha one. In fact the Lincoln paper had an overtly anti Rummy article from an up east paper, Boston IIRC.

[El Gato]

If the fanatical Arab goal is not to defeat other nations militarily, but to send the world back to the dark ages, then a black-market purchased nuke detonated in NYC or Wash DC will do just fine

While such an event would certainly disrupt things, I do believe the US could forge on without either DC or NYC, or both. However it would lead to dark age alright, in the Arab world, although for most Arabs, those that survived that is, the differences would be minimal.

[wizardoz]

Having learned to perform some complicated procedure, an Arab technician knows that he is invaluable so long as he is the only one in a unit to have that knowledge

Oy. An army of housewives.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Unholy Alliance
by David Horowitz
Regnery Publishing, Inc.; ISBN: 089526076X
Hardcover - 256 pages (September 2004)

In this tour de force on the most important issue of our time, David Horowitz, confronts the paradox of how so many Americans, including the leadership of the Democratic Party, could turn against the War on Terror. He finds an answer in a political Left that shares a view of America as the ?Great Satan? with America?s radical Islamic enemies. This Left, which once made common cause with Communists, has now joined forces with radical Islam in attacking America?s defenses at home and its policies abroad. From their positions of influence in the university and media culture, leftists have defined America as the ?root cause? of the attacks against it. In a remarkable exploration of the ?Mind of the Left,? Horowitz traces the evolution of American radicalism from its Communist past to its ?anti-war? present. He then shows how this Left was able to turn the Democratic Party presidential campaign around and reshape its views on the War on Terror.

Horowitz?s Unholy Alliance, writes John Haynes, the noted historian of American Communism, ?is an insightful, brilliant examination of the mental world of the radical left. Horowitz shows how today?s radicals, unwilling to reflect on the internal flaws that destroyed Marxism-Leninism from within, have embraced an all-consuming nihilism in its place. This has led them to a hatred of American institutions and a solidarity with Islamic terrorists that makes the radical left more properly regarded as dangerous than loony.?

Unholy Alliance is an eye-opening book that should unsettle conventional assumptions and reveals why intellectuals and political leaders who applaud Michael Moore are no laughing matter. As Harvey Klehr, author of Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, writes, ?The world Communist movement may be moribund, but its habits of mind and ideological fantasies have not disappeared. This is a fascinating and depressing account.?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Finish reading later, thanks for the posting!

[wizardoz]

By making him think that there were his ideas to begin with, and endorsed by a USAF officer, he would then go about implementing what I had wanted all along.

WOW. Americans are from Mars. Arabs are from Venus. LOL!!!

[onedoug]

One can't help but think though, that's part of the problem. Thought without responsibility is neither.

[ops33]

I thought I was just being a good Senior NCO and figuring out how to manipulate officers to get my job done and take care of my people!!

[onedoug]

Thanks for your service, Sarge.

[Dick Vomer]

ping

[bigcheese]

Time for a Patton quote:

It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have been developing.

[Buffalo Head]

Thanks for the good post. Makes it easier to understand why there are no pages between the covers of the book, "Arab War Hero's".

[JRandomFreeper]

I thought I was just being a good Senior NCO and figuring out how to manipulate officers to get my job done and take care of my people

Isn't that our job? Even for mid-level NCOs? As a reservist, I'm older than most officers up to 0-6/7.

Lord, give me a 1st LT any day. Mash the buttons, they respond. God Love the US Air Force. Agile, responsive, and able to meet the challange.

/john

[Yasotay]

Bump, Merry Christmas and thanks

[Earnie]

Two words -- Pump & Bing.

[TASMANIANRED]

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