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The Last Battle of the Vietnam War - (Lt. Rich Webster, on Kerry's defeat!)
WINTERSOLDIER.COM ^ | JANUARY 5, 2005 | LT. RICH WEBSTER

Posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:50 PM PST by CHARLITE

The last battle of the Vietnam War was fought on November 2nd, 2004, as John Kerry was defeated in his bid to become President of the United States by John O'Neill and the Swift Vets and POWs for Truth.

What was the battle about? It was a battle to recapture the honor of the Vietnam veterans who served gallantly and heroically in that war.

And who were the adversaries in this battle? It was the dishonest old media culture -- CBS, NBC, ABC, The New York Times, and the LA Times, who backed John Kerry’s version of how Vietnam veterans were the enemy of humanity in the Vietnam War. The old media was quick to endorse John Kerry's claim to have been a real Audie Murphy in Vietnam, as described by his recent biographer, Douglas Brinkley.

On the other side of this battle stood John O'Neill and his Swift Boat Veterans, the POWs, and a large contingent of informed Vietnam veterans who weren't going to lie down and let the media kick them in the face again. They weren't buying John Kerry's version of the Vietnam War and they weren't going to let America forget Kerry’s traitorous activities after the war when he became a shill for the Vietnamese communists.

Reminiscent of their actions over 30 years ago when covering the war in Vietnam, the big media portrayed O'Neill and his fellow Vietnam veterans as bunch of liars. None of the network news outlets was fit to interview O'Neill or review his book "UNFIT FOR COMMAND" even though it was on the NY Times bestseller list for a month.

Not once did a major media outlet call on Kerry to address any of the charges leveled against him by his fellow veterans. Nor did they call on him to sign his SF-l80 to release his military records, though there is good evidence that he received a less than honorable discharge for his meeting with the enemy in Paris during time of war.

The reason they didn't pursue Kerry's Vietnam record and his traitorous actions after the war was quite simply that they preferred Kerry’s version of the Vietnam War to the reality of it. The mainstream media was only interested in attacking the integrity of the Swift Vets and accusing 250 of Kerry’s fellow veterans of lying for political purposes.

Not once did they suggest that their chosen Vietnam hero, the one who threw his medals away, might be lying. They simply couldn't pursue Kerry on this. It would have been an admission that they, too, had marched in lockstep with Kerry on the Vietnam War, and in the defaming of Vietnam veterans.

The dominant media culture that claimed the so-called moral high ground in their effort to destroy America's support for the war doesn’t want to be reminded that the communists who had promised a heaven on earth in Vietnam if they won, turned Southeast Asia into a Holocaust once they came to power.

The fact that almost 4 million of our former South Vietnamese, Laotian, and Cambodian allies were murdered after the fall of Saigon, is brutal evidence that the anti-war crowd and their media cohorts were conned by the totalitarians in Hanoi. Several North Vietnamese Generals have now written in their memoirs that the antiwar movement in the streets of America was instrumental in helping them win the war.

The antiwar Left, with the help of the media, managed not only to help the North Vietnamese win the war, but shifted the focus of rage against the war onto the Vietnam veterans. Our troops, America’s finest who had gone halfway around the world to fight for a democracy against the totalitarian forces of Communism, were treated with unjust contempt when they returned home.

That's one reason the old media couldn't question Kerry about his actions in support of the enemy in Vietnam -- they had done the same dishonest thing over 30 years ago. It fit their purpose to portray the Vietnam veterans as losers. Never mind that the other side had a policy of assassination and torture, murdering more than 61,000 South Vietnamese public officials during the war, and that they created concentration camps and committed genocide after "peace" was declared.

That’s why there is an unbridgeable gap between those who went and those who consciously avoided the war. The only Vietnam Veteran the old media can endorse is a veteran like Kerry who betrayed his comrades with phony charges of war crimes, who refused to allow the Vietnam Human Rights Bill to be called to the Senate floor, who abandoned the POWs in his chairmanship of the POW Senate Hearings, who lied about being in Cambodia to dramatize his testimony against aid to the Contras in Nicaragua, and filled staff positions with the likes of Gareth Porter, a scholar who sang the praises of the Khmer Rouge and denied the Cambodian holocaust...

The media of the 60's and the early 70's had a powerful effect on how the Vietnam War was perceived by the public, as there was no alternative media as there is today. As the war progressed, they chose to smear Vietnam vets as degenerates and losers -- an image that found its way into our movies and culture.

Herman Melville knew something about human nature when he wrote, when a person who has power over you finds that you are the better man, he will do everything in his power to belittle and destroy you. This is at the heart of the media's portrayal of the Vietnam Veteran.

The old media carries a guilt complex over the Vietnam War, and it's too painful for them to reexamine their actions. Doing so might show that they were wrong and were complicit in aiding an enemy in perpetrating a Holocaust in Southeast Asia. It might mean an admitting that the better men were those who went off to fight the war, rather than the "let's-give-peace-a-chance" agitators who marched under the Viet Cong flag in the streets of America.

I attended a conference in Boston this July on "The Myths of the Vietnam War" which examined the shallowness and the one-sidedness of the news coverage of that war. On the same Thursday night that Kerry made his grand entrance at the Democratic Convention, I joined 200 anti-Kerry Vietnam veterans, former American and South Vietnamese POWs, and surviving Vietnamese Boat People, in a march of protest to the front of the Convention Hall.

Not one major news outlet cared to interview us, and there were thousands of media people there. We marched to Kerry's condo on the Hill, and had a ceremonial reenactment of his throwing his medals back. POW Mike Benge and another South Vietnamese POW who had spent 20 years in a prison camp in North Vietnam marched at my sides. John Kerry's actions had betrayed everyone involved in our protest. We chanted, "Good men died while John Kerry lied!"

Old-fashioned though it may be the notion still resonates with a large segment of Americans that in time of war, a military officer shouldn't betray his comrades by meeting with officials of the enemy and attempting to force his own government to yield to their demands. John Kerry did exactly that when he met Madame Binh and the North Vietnamese in Paris in 1970 and l97l.

That's why the Swiftees helped to defeat John Kerry with their simple, powerful message that he was unfit for command. The Swift Vet / POW ads galvanized the 25 million Veterans in America, and were enough to tilt the election in George Bush's favor.

Some suggest that Kerry should have done more to rebut the Swift Vet ads, but how could he? In the book, "Unfit for Command," the Swift Vets had nailed Kerry to the wall. He had no rebuttal, except to threaten to sue the publishers of the book, and later to sue the movie theaters that dared to show "Stolen Honor." And in this, too, the old media covered for him.

In September, I attended a rally on Capitol Hill of some 7,000 Vietnam veterans against John Kerry that was organized by former Navy SEAL Larry Bailey. Major news outlets were on hand for the event, but most chose to ignore the protest. The Washington Times ran a short article, and USA Today ran a photo of the lone opposition Vietnam veteran, Bobby Mueller, who showed up to oppose our rally. One guy against 7,000, and that was the picture a national newspaper chose to describe the event, without any commentary, or even any mention of why we were there.

I have no doubt that if 7,000 Vietnam veterans had assembled in front of the White House to support John Kerry, all three major networks would have featured the event on their nightly news shows, and the Washington Post would have run a large feature on it.

John O'Neill was a speaker at the rally, along with Stolen Valor author B. G. Burkett. Another speaker, Vietnam Nurse Captain Donna Rowe told the story of how a group of US infantry soldiers had brought in a wounded Vietnamese baby girl with shrapnel in her chest. The child's entire village had been murdered by the Viet Cong for being too friendly to the American soldiers.

"We saved that baby’s life," she said. "We did not kill babies over there like John Kerry said. We went out of our way to save them."

The old media disrespected the Vietnam veterans during the 2004 campaign just as they had done over three decades ago, but this time the vets fought back, taking their battle to the Internet, talk radio, and the cable news networks. It was a wonderful example of diversity of opinion and freedom of speech, but hardly the kind of speech and opinion the old media prefers. They want their own version of the history of the Vietnam War, and ignore or attack anyone who disagrees with it.

The Vietnam veterans who opposed Kerry were fighting for their honor, stolen from them long ago by the media and the antiwar movement. John Kerry had been front and center in dishonoring those he served with in the Vietnam War.

Senator Zell Miller recognizes the valor of America's veterans, "Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for freedom of liberty of total strangers than the American soldier." Don't those words describe the Vietnam veterans?

Had John Kerry been capable of uttering such noble words, and if he could have been honest about his fellow Vietnam veterans, he would have had their support, and in all probability would have been elected President of the United States. Instead, by once again defiling the honor of Vietnam veterans with slanderous lies, Kerry and his media supporters lost the last battle of the Vietnam War.

Rich Webster
Lt. with the Regional Forces / Popular Forces, Vietnam 1968 - 1969


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To: CHARLITE
I do not believe for one moment that the old media has a guilt complex over their coverage of the war in Viet Nam.

To this day they despise American military might and have no care at all for those who suffer under brutal dictatorships around the world.

61 posted on 01/08/2005 10:32:58 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: Brian Allen

Great post! Great thread.


62 posted on 01/08/2005 10:36:37 PM PST by Republic (Will michael shiavo and his concubine and children now preside over the murder of Terri?)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; risk; ModernDayHeroes.com; reformjoy; conservogirl; ...
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=5138

Great link on article written by Mike Tremoglie, one of the very few articles written about the views of the South Vietnamese refugees, many who were boat people. Mike refers to this group of Vietnamese as "dominoes" as they would have been the folks most affected by Kerry's "domino theory" of the US committing war crimes. Mike went to the source and reported. None of this was ever covered by MSM (big surprise).

Whether or not this is the last battle of the Vietnam War remains completely up to the Vietnam Veterans. They alone have the authority to determine when this war should end.

All I know is that I don't thank God nearly enough for the endless work, dedication, integrity and courage demonstrated by John O'Neill and the Swift Vets, The POW's, Carlton Sherwood ("Stolen Honor"), Vets that had to say something and many Freepers (many of whom are posting on this thread).

63 posted on 01/08/2005 10:38:42 PM PST by bear11
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To: DoughtyOne; ALOHA RONNIE

<< Good evening Aloha Ronnie. Have I told you today that I appreciate your service to the nation? Take care, Bud. >>

Took the words FRom me mouth!

And may God for ever bless you and all of those you love -- and you, too, D-1 -- and yours.

#57 #49 BUMPping!

Blessings -- B A


64 posted on 01/08/2005 10:50:57 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: CHARLITE
Has JFnK signed the SF-180?

I wonder when he is going to realize that his SF-180 is going to be an insurmountable issue when he runs for reelection as Senator of Taxachusettes?

You have awakened a firebreathing dragon, Johnny Boy, and it is not going back to sleep until it has burned you alive.

65 posted on 01/08/2005 10:51:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Republic

Thank you -- and for Terri!


66 posted on 01/08/2005 10:52:52 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: CHARLITE

I take it that Webster isn't a subscriber to the New York Times.


67 posted on 01/08/2005 10:54:38 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: Brian Allen

Good to see you out this soggy evening Brian. Are you still stateside?


68 posted on 01/08/2005 10:55:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Bump!


69 posted on 01/08/2005 11:02:00 PM PST by windchime (Won't it be great watching President Bush spend political capital?)
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To: DoughtyOne

<< Good to see you out this soggy evening Brian. Are you still stateside? >>

Nope. We won that [November 2] War, thank God -- and I'm at present 9760 miles from home, back at the other one.

I'll be home again late June for Independence Day Celebrations -- maybe we can hook up then, for a bite, perhaps?

Blessings -- B A


70 posted on 01/08/2005 11:09:29 PM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: bear11; DoughtyOne; CHARLITE; OldFriend; Republic; Brian Allen; epluribus; mowkeka; bray; ...


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And now we finally have...


Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp
(Vietnam Human Rights Bill)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts?page=12


Just for the CLARITY of it.

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71 posted on 01/08/2005 11:21:12 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Brian Allen

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NEVER FORGET


American Soldiers...
Fighting for the...
Freedom of Others,
Those that train them for...
Their Freedom Mission and...
Those Loved Ones who...
Wait for them...
To come home...
or not...
are...


......HOLY..!!!

......stated Freeper "ALOHA RONNIE" - April 2004


What American Soldiers...
are doing on behalf...
of the Freedom of Others...
is...

......SACRED..!!!

......stated "WE WERE SOLDIERS" Filmaker RANDALL WALLACE on 'The Laura Ingram Talk Radio Show' - November 2004


NEVER FORGET

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72 posted on 01/08/2005 11:32:31 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: CHARLITE

It was satisfying to know that the Vietnam Vets were a major part of John Kerry's defeat. It my have been delayed, but it was JUSTICE, nonetheless.


73 posted on 01/08/2005 11:58:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Brian Allen

I'd like that Brian.


74 posted on 01/09/2005 1:06:59 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Seem rather strange that a peace lovin guy like Kerry wouldn't have been pounding on doors across Vietnam to liberate people like this over the years. He cares so much for the people you know.


75 posted on 01/09/2005 1:10:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservat)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

We have to keep up the pressure!


76 posted on 01/09/2005 1:21:21 AM PST by SirLurkedalot (Molon-frickin'-Labe!)
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To: DoughtyOne; ALOHA RONNIE

<< Seem rather strange that a peace lovin guy like Kerry wouldn't have been pounding on doors across Vietnam to liberate people like this over the years. He cares so much for the people you know. >>

Some of the folks I see pretty much every day in the [SE-Asia] rounds and abouts of my travels don't quite get that about him.

And would like him to drop by some day or preferably night so they can take it up with him.

And arrange that he get to consult at first hand and soon with the almost four million dead for whose ghastly demise responsibility pretty much rests at the doorsteps of Kohn-Kerry and his treasonous red-doper diapered Soviet-agent Alger-Hiss-descended Foggy-bottom-bred sleeper ilk.

Blessings -- Brian


77 posted on 01/09/2005 1:24:34 AM PST by Brian Allen (Who is Bob Wallace?)
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To: CHARLITE

bump


78 posted on 01/09/2005 2:47:48 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Interesting Times
The reason they didn't pursue Kerry's Vietnam record and his traitorous actions after the war was quite simply that they preferred Kerry’s version of the Vietnam War to the reality of it. The mainstream media was only interested in attacking the integrity of the Swift Vets and accusing 250 of Kerry’s fellow veterans of lying for political purposes.

Following the lead of their Great Icon of Respectable Journalism, Walter Cronkite – Chief of the America Desk of the North Vietnamese propaganda arm.
79 posted on 01/09/2005 2:55:24 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Interesting Times

Excellent essay, I've sent it out to my email list. Thanks for the ping!

Prairie


80 posted on 01/09/2005 3:00:14 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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