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Mel Gibson post-award press conference-"Kinship" with Michael Moore

Posted on 01/10/2005 10:33:48 AM PST by bushfamfan

Does anyone have the quotes that Mel Gibson apparently made after receiving his People's Choice Award in saying he felt a "kinship" with Michael Moore and attacking the war in Iraq?


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To: eastsider

What was in Fahrenheit 9/11 that Mel liked so much? It's a film that says Bush's motives are evil, does it not? There's your evidence.


101 posted on 01/10/2005 11:23:11 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan
There's something wrong there. He's a poser, folks.

Gibson's real personality is very close to his character in all the Lethal Weapons movies: nuttier than a peach orchard boar.

He's goofy.

102 posted on 01/10/2005 11:23:43 AM PST by sinkspur ("How dare you presume to tell God what He cannot do" God Himself)
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To: Centurion2000

WHHHAAAAAAAAj!!! MOMMIE!!!!!!


103 posted on 01/10/2005 11:23:48 AM PST by biblewonk (Neither was the man created for woman but the woman for the man.)
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To: missyme

"He might dis-agree with the war in Iraq, so might Jesus Christ and I am sure you wouldn't question him."

I'm guessing that Jesus Christ is not a big fan of the sort of misinformation and outright lies found in F911; that sort of stuff seems to be more to the liking of say...SATAN!!! \churchlady:off


104 posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:21 AM PST by Avenger
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To: missyme

One more time for you people who don't get it-my problem is he is praising and admiring Fahrenheit 9/11. What does that make him?


105 posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:33 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Centurion2000

Some comments in this link:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/movies/package.jsp?name=movies/content/peoples_choice_backstage


106 posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:34 AM PST by SAR
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To: Avenger

Yes it was a Movie the message is the most important thing anyone in this world can hear..

Jesus died for the world's Sins and is the Risen Messiah of the world that is the most important message from a movie any human being will hear in there lifetime..

Everyone will hear it and make the decision what to do about if before they die


107 posted on 01/10/2005 11:24:38 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: rapture-me

He apparently said this in a press conference backstage that all the 'celebrities' do after they receive their awards.


108 posted on 01/10/2005 11:25:51 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: bushfamfan

Christian that prays for his enemies


109 posted on 01/10/2005 11:26:28 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: PleaseNoMore

Read post 3. Mel has been on the radio with these quotes. That's why I started this thread, to learn more about it and I am furious as this is apparently true.


110 posted on 01/10/2005 11:28:00 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: SAR; All
Mel's words:

"I feel a kind of strange kinship with Michael. They're always tying to pit us against each other in the press...the left, the right…" he commented, clearly dismissive of the idea.

"I saw his film, I liked it," Gibson said of "9/11," though he indicated that he might disagree with some points and some editing. "However, the question - and I didn't need to see his film to answer the question - is, why are we in Iraq?"

Gibson said that no one had explained to him adequately "why we went in and why we're there."

I don't see him "praising the film. I don't see him worshipping it. I don't see any anti-conservative opinions in this.

111 posted on 01/10/2005 11:28:28 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: bushfamfan

I'm still waiting for a quote.


112 posted on 01/10/2005 11:28:39 AM PST by eastsider
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To: eastsider; bushfamfan

Quotes are in post 111.


113 posted on 01/10/2005 11:29:33 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: SAR

Gibson in particular raised eyebrows during his highly-charged question-and-answer session with a few press after his win.

"I feel a kind of strange kinship with Michael. They're always tying to pit us against each other in the press...the left, the right…" he commented, clearly dismissive of the idea.

"I saw his film, I liked it," Gibson said of "9/11," though he indicated that he might disagree with some points and some editing. "However, the question - and I didn't need to see his film to answer the question - is, why are we in Iraq?"

Gibson said that no one had explained to him adequately "why we went in and why we're there."

When a New York Times columnist asked Gibson, "What do you like best about Catholicism and Jesus Christ?" Gibson snapped, "Next question." And as a reporter began asking another question, he added: "Don't f--- with me."

Yes, that is where the soundbites came from, although this isn't a complete transcript.
114 posted on 01/10/2005 11:29:56 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: PleaseNoMore; bushfamfan

Looks like that case of knee jerk that has is now complicated by foot in mouth disease.


115 posted on 01/10/2005 11:30:35 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

Thanks : )


116 posted on 01/10/2005 11:30:38 AM PST by eastsider
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To: bushfamfan

"He suckered a lot of people with Passion though."


LOL! Yes he did and I'm happy to say that I was not one of the millions who gave whacko Mel more retirement money!!


117 posted on 01/10/2005 11:30:46 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: BibChr
This morniong on KFi, they played a blip of Gibson's words. He said he felt a sort of odd kinship with Moore because the media was trying to pit the two against each other.

In a way, FR has done the same thing. Made up some sort of rivalry in their silly heads.

118 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:01 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: Trippin

"It's all to do with these weapons (of mass destruction) that we can't seem to find, and why did we go over there?" he asked.

I'm willing to cut Gibson some slack because God knows I don't trust newspaper reports and this line may well have been taken out of context . . . but what is it about people that they can't see past the WMD thing? Do they not remember there were other, equally important reasons Bush decided to go into Iraq? And what if there had been WMDs and we hadn't gone in -- what would those people be saying now?

By going into Iraq, Bush has done something farsighted and downright brilliant, WMDs or not, and it shocks me that so many people can't see it. I think Bush is fighting both a short-term and a long-term war on terror, which is the only way to win. In Iraq, Bush is trying to create fertile ground for freedom -- in a region that, except for Israel, has NEVER known it. And freedom, democracy, is going to be the final nail in the coffin of terrorism.

Bush is taking the long view -- doing to terrorism what Reagan did to communism. For decades the "learned" among us said we couldn't defeat communism, and now the narrow-minded dolts are saying the same thing about terrorism. They can't see past their own noses.

My guess is that Gibson has never even considered the long-term benefits in the war on terror that Bush will achieve by going into Iraq. And being in the business he is, he's not likely to encounter anyone who will enumerate those benefits for him.

119 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:09 AM PST by Glenmerle
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To: PleaseNoMore

You've got to be kidding in accusing me of slandering your beloved Mel Gibson! Mel obviously questions Bush's reasons for the war and likes a film that really says how Bush is evil and has bad intentions and yet you are crying about how I am the one slandering Mel?


120 posted on 01/10/2005 11:31:43 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: sinkspur; All

He's goofy A Man who donated millions of profit dollars from the Passion to Children's Hospitals?

A Man who is devoted to family and GOD and has no problems with out of control kids or a selfish sleezy wife.

A Man who helps his entire huge family

A Man who did not critizie one Jewish person who accused him of being a Anti-Semite

A Man who dared to stand up for GOD in Hollywood when no one would

A Man who said he was the first one to blame himself for killing Jesus Christ.

I beg to differ Mel will probaly be the first one in line to get through the pearly gates when most will be down the street around the bulding climbing up a hill to get into heaven


121 posted on 01/10/2005 11:32:24 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: bushfamfan

Guess what? I am not this montrous Mel fan. I just dislike people who charge off into the wild blue yonder on a broomstick pony.


122 posted on 01/10/2005 11:32:55 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Dog Gone

Thanks for the entire quote- it confirms my belief that he was talking about their similarities as filmmakers despite their different political beliefs.


123 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:17 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: bushfamfan

You need to read what he said about the film. It's in print for ya in post 111.


124 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:26 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Seajay

"One can be conservative and still opposed to the war in Iraq. "


On this forum? Anytime I've expressed reservations or questions about the war in Iraq, I've been called an anti-patriotic, anti-soldier, pro-terrorist liberal.

I agree with you, btw...


125 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:33 AM PST by Blzbba (Conservative Republican - Less gov't, less spending, less intrusion.)
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To: Centurion2000
Does this qualify ?? This thread is trashtalking hearsay.

KFI had the clip. He wasn't saying beyond that he felt a weird kinship with Moore because of the media pitting them against each other.

126 posted on 01/10/2005 11:33:47 AM PST by Bella_Bru (You're about as funny as a case sensitive search engine.)
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To: SAR
Technically, if you are a Christian, you should be against all war anyway. I see nothing inconsistant here. He made a great movie about a part of the Bible that touched a lot of people. Jesus wasn't a republican or a democrat - I think The Passion should be completely removed from politicization.
Also, Mel Gibson isn't Michael Moore. Moore is a hateful a-hole. I can respect someone who has religious problems with the war in Iraq (include moral convictions as well). Moore wouldn't bat an eye if Clinton had gone to war. I think Gibson would stay true to his convictions, whomever the president was.
127 posted on 01/10/2005 11:34:14 AM PST by mudblood
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To: King David

I'm with you. So what. He is NOT a liberal, just a conservative against the war. They do exist. That said, Moore is a liar.


128 posted on 01/10/2005 11:34:37 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: biblewonk
One more reason to miss The Passion of Christ According to Mel.
129 posted on 01/10/2005 11:34:40 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: mudblood
Technically, if you are a Christian, you should be against all war anyway

You must have missed the part about the Crusades and the concept of "just war".

130 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:48 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: sinkspur

Rich people are eccentric, not goofy ...


131 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:51 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Blzbba

Really Mel gave Millions of dollars from the Passion to Needy Children what did you do with GOD's money?


GOD has blessed Mel in every way possible and people on this thread are bleeding with Jealousy and envy how shameful


132 posted on 01/10/2005 11:35:52 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: bushfamfan

So, Stan was right. Gibson really is a raving, greedy, egotistical lunatic?


133 posted on 01/10/2005 11:36:16 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: PleaseNoMore
To: Admin Moderator ... This thread is BS.

We can't have that now, can we?! Oh, the humanity!

134 posted on 01/10/2005 11:36:21 AM PST by newgeezer (Sarcasm content: 100.00%)
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To: PleaseNoMore

LOL, read post 106. Quotes Mel in saying how he liked Fahrenheit 9/11 and praised Michael Moore!


135 posted on 01/10/2005 11:36:49 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Centurion2000

"concept of "just war"."

Did jesus say there was a such thing as a just war? Its the crusaders who missed something.


136 posted on 01/10/2005 11:37:56 AM PST by mudblood
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To: missyme

Christian that prays for his enemies, like Bush? Apparently Mel must thinks he needs to pray an awful lot for Bush due to the reasons he took us to war.


137 posted on 01/10/2005 11:38:21 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Centurion2000

True Christians were not part of the crusades...Don't paint lieing heathens as Christians


138 posted on 01/10/2005 11:39:04 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: All

Gibson has always been anti-war. I'm surprised some people are surprised by this.

If Gibson does not understand the reason for the war, it's his problem. Certainly the sources are out there he could access to explain the necessity. It's his duty to seek them out if he desires to understand.

I supported his efforts with TPOTC because it was the right thing to do. He was making a film about my Savior, faithfully, and being unfairly blasted for those efforts.

I have known all along he is considered a "Republican". But, he is a part of Hollywood. I've never known if he's really "conservative", nor did it matter to me.

My only problem is admiration of F-9/11. THAT, I do not respect. I respect what he went through to make TPOTC, but F-9/11 is propaganda. If you are anti-war, I can deal with it. You'd be wrong, but you've the right to disagree. I draw the line at propaganda and so should Gibson. I would consider it unfortunate he cannot separate anti-war thoughts with propaganda. Though I'm not surprised. He is a part of Hollywood.



139 posted on 01/10/2005 11:39:23 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: PleaseNoMore

He liked the film, enough said.


140 posted on 01/10/2005 11:39:47 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Dog Gone

Where was that full quote from?


141 posted on 01/10/2005 11:40:28 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: missyme
True Christians were not part of the crusades.

Can you clarify that statement?

142 posted on 01/10/2005 11:40:53 AM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: bushfamfan
He liked the film, enough said.

I like the film Goodfellas, that does not mean I like mobsters.

143 posted on 01/10/2005 11:41:47 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: Pyro7480
I think from #106.
144 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:04 AM PST by eastsider
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To: Pyro7480
I think from #106.
145 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:09 AM PST by eastsider
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To: PleaseNoMore

He liked the film, so much for you on your broomstick pony.


146 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:35 AM PST by bushfamfan
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To: Dog Gone
Sometimes there is a big difference between a "social conservative" and a "conservative."

Some times there's a big difference bewteen a "conservative" and a "neo-Conservative".

147 posted on 01/10/2005 11:42:48 AM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: exnavychick

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050110/ap_en_mo/people_moore_gibson_1

Odd Couple Gibson, Moore Exchange Praise

27 minutes ago Movies - AP

PASADENA, Calif. - Mel Gibson (news) and Michael Moore have been used as shorthand for cultural and political divisions among Americans, but how do the filmmakers feel about each other? Cue the Hollywood ending — it's hugs all around.


"I saw the film. I liked it," Gibson told AP Radio Sunday at the 31st Annual People's Choice Awards, countering the contention that "Fahrenheit 9/11" fans and "The Passion of the Christ" enthusiasts are mutually exclusive groups.


Moore's critique of President Bush (news - web sites)'s policies since the Sept. 11 attacks and Gibson's film about Jesus Christ's final hours were huge hits at the box office in 2004, and both won People's Choice awards Sunday. "Fahrenheit 9/11" was named favorite movie and "The Passion of the Christ" was the favorite drama.


"I feel a kind of strange kinship with Michael," Gibson said. I mean, they're trying to pit us against each other in the press, but this is all just a hologram, you know. They've really got nothing to do with one another. They were used as some kind of divisive left-right thing."


Moore said he saw Gibson's film twice, and even took his father to see it.


"I thought it was a powerful piece of filmmaking," Moore told AP Radio Sunday. "I'm a practicing Catholic, and you know I think Mel and I may be from different wings of the Catholic Church. My film might have been called 'The Compassion of the Christ.'"






148 posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:06 AM PST by Jenya (I'm a newbie here, but not to life. Don't even think of imposing your seniority on me.)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

The Apostles never ever wrote anything to warrant the Crusades now did they?

Did Jesus imply anything about the Crusades?

Jesus and the Apostles JEWS were anti-jewish? No that came from the early pagan church


149 posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:16 AM PST by missyme (tart)
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To: Jenya

I just posted to the other thread about this, but thanks for the link.


150 posted on 01/10/2005 11:43:45 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart.)
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