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9.0 on ungrateful scale-Thanks for the help, but now get out,Indonesian veep tells U.S. soldiers
New York Daily News ^ | 1/13/05 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 01/13/2005 4:09:46 AM PST by kattracks

The Indonesian government yesterday showed its appreciation to U.S. soldiers who have been risking their lives helping tsunami victims by ordering them to get out of the country by the end of March.

"Three months are enough," Vice President Jusuf Kalla told the official Antara news agency. "In fact, the sooner [they leave] the better."

Kalla's government also forced the Abraham Lincoln, from which Navy pilots have flown dozens of food supply missions to the hard-hit Aceh Province, to steam out of Indonesian waters because they refused to let U.S. pilots fly training missions in their air space.

The Indonesians also refused to let the Marines coming ashore rebuild roads, establish a base camp or carry arms.

Lynn Pascoe, the U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, reacted to Kalla's ingratitude by declaring that American troops will help as long as they were needed and "not a minute later."

But in Washington, White House spokesman Scott McClellan demanded "further clarification from Indonesia about what this means."

"We hope that the government of Indonesia and the military in Indonesia will continue the strong support they have provided to the international relief efforts so far," he said.

Although most Indonesians have expressed thanks for U.S. help, nationalist politicians in the world's most populous Muslim country have been grumbling about "American interlopers."

Indonesia's new president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, is a former general in a country that has been under martial law for much of its recent history.

Always wary of America, Indonesia reluctantly allowed U.S. soldiers in when it became clear it could not deal with the aftermath of the Dec. 26 tsunami on its own.

Yudhoyono's government also moved to reassert control over wave-walloped Aceh by ordering aid workers and journalists to declare their travel plans - or face expulsion.

"It is important to note that the government would be placed in a very difficult position if any foreigner who came to Aceh to assist in the aid effort was harmed through the acts of irresponsible parties," the government said in a statement.

The Indonesian government was referring to the rebels who have largely stayed out of the way as the international rescue missions have been mounted.

With News Wire Services

Originally published on January 13, 2005



TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allahswill; disasterrelief; humanitarianrelief; indonesiangratitude; indonutstoya; ingrates; islandsofresentment; letthejunglehelpthem; sumatraquake; thanksnoweffyou; timeforallahtodie; ussuckers; wewantmoney
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To: kattracks
I hear they have demanded any foreign troops delivering aid not be armed. As Aceh is a hotbed of Al Qaeda activity, this makes a lot of sense from the Muslim view. They like sitting ducks for targets.

Maybe we ought to go in and flatten them the rest of the way?

41 posted on 01/13/2005 5:29:20 AM PST by Gritty ("Hair-raising screams will be squeezed from the lungs of the non-believers"-killer of Theo VanGogh)
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To: drt1
By "outside influences" you mean Christianity.

No need to mince words here FRiend.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

42 posted on 01/13/2005 5:32:04 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: kattracks

I have not donated a penny toward this disaster and thankfully so. I would rather donate to the Disabled American Veterans than waste my money on the ungratefuls of the world. Our veterans deserve our help more than these idiots ever will.


43 posted on 01/13/2005 5:32:14 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: kattracks

Stop all aid, pull out now. Wish them a hearty AMF on the way out the door.


44 posted on 01/13/2005 5:32:26 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: kattracks

We should pull out of Indonesia before sundown. There are plenty of other ravaged countries that would love more U.S. relief.


45 posted on 01/13/2005 5:32:30 AM PST by stoney
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To: kattracks

Well, I guess we just need to say, "We're out of here. Hope it all works out for you. Oh, and if you don't need us or our help, you don't need our money, either. Let the great and mighty UN help you out of this mess (free condoms and portable abortion machines? what is up with that?) However, we will continue to pray for the innocent people you are no doubt sentencing to death because you are so greedy and power hungry. Call on all of those rich muslim countries and see how much they are actually willing to help you. Action, not words or condemnation."


46 posted on 01/13/2005 5:33:41 AM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle ("We walk by faith, not sight." 2 Cor 5:7)
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To: tkathy

Ef em!
I say we get out TODAY, take our $$ and any supplies with us that were about to be delivered. Good riddance. What a bunch of "bleeping bleeps!"


47 posted on 01/13/2005 5:34:16 AM PST by Muzzle_em
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To: kattracks

Dicey situation for a number of reasons, including Indonesian pride. Thanks to whacko mullahs and Al Jazeera, Muslims are paranoid about US motives, and then there's the Muslim well deserved sense of inferiority. It'd probably be easier for them to accept UN help, then they could pretend the US wasn't supplying ninety odd per cent of aid. We should let them stew in their own juice. They'll be able to complain that we didn't rebuild their infrastructure. That should make them happy.


48 posted on 01/13/2005 5:38:03 AM PST by hershey
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To: expatguy
Not mincing words. The Islamic powers co-exist with the Gov't in a live-let-live relationship. The Islamicists do not want ANY outside influences, Christian, individualism, liberty, etc. so it is not just a Christian thing. As long as the population is kept in line the Gov't will not interfere and the Imams do their part to keep it this way.
49 posted on 01/13/2005 5:42:18 AM PST by drt1
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To: Dr. Marten
Well, what the hell are we waiting for?

As the article says, "Although most Indonesians have expressed thanks for U.S. help, nationalist politicians in the world's most populous Muslim country have been grumbling about 'American interlopers.'"

Why should we let some self-serving a--holes get in the way of helping people in such desperate need?

50 posted on 01/13/2005 5:44:04 AM PST by newgeezer (When encryption is outlawed, rwei qtjske ud alsx zkjwejruc.)
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To: kattracks

Well since we are mobilized in the region, I say we just start our next wave of the war on terror. We will end up with combat troops in Indonesia within 10 years anyway. Why not mop them up while they are reeling? Just an idea...


51 posted on 01/13/2005 5:45:29 AM PST by Bigturbowski
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To: kattracks

let's send THIS guy over personally to straighten them all out...

52 posted on 01/13/2005 5:47:18 AM PST by bitt (Why didn't they shove Dan Rather out of the door in his underwear?)
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To: kattracks

As we continue to force our 'charity' on others--not a function of gub'mint to begin with--we deserve to get it snapped off in our rectums!


53 posted on 01/13/2005 5:48:15 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: kattracks
I believe there is something in Islam which destroys a person's sense of decency. I have noticed this phenomena over and over.

They seem to have no idea of right and wrong. They simply do what they are commanded to do and generally that is to do evil, but their conscience is destroyed because they are taught they are doing good.

I don't even want to hear about the good ones because they are good despite Islam. They would probably be great if not for it.

54 posted on 01/13/2005 5:49:07 AM PST by yarddog
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To: kattracks

So we should get out and take our aid with us.


55 posted on 01/13/2005 5:50:36 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: kattracks
Let the UN deal with it and let them take the fallout. We should leave now. I wasn't happy when the aid anti was raised, that money would do far better right here at home. To hell with all the ingrates around the world, especially the Muslim hypocrites.
56 posted on 01/13/2005 5:52:46 AM PST by SeaBiscuit (With God, I will never be alone again.)
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To: kattracks

what punks...pack up and leave and let's take our billions in aid with us. Let the UN and private relief agencies deal with this mess. We've got bigger issues to tackle.


57 posted on 01/13/2005 5:54:32 AM PST by blteague
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To: saveliberty

>Now we know where we should not have sent our personal contributions. I am truly sorry that the Indonesian government hates itself so much that it fears being made to look lesser by accepting aid. The government would look better by having its priorities straight.<

Compared to the megalomaniac keeping the people of Burma (Myanmar, or whatever) from getting any outside aid, Indonesia is at least letting the world give some comfort to its shattered population.

I feel so bad for the people of Burma. The devastation is as great as the rest of the region, but that tinpot dictator refuses to allow them some help.


58 posted on 01/13/2005 5:56:17 AM PST by Darnright
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To: nina0113
Guess I won't be sending that second check.

Nope.

59 posted on 01/13/2005 6:00:05 AM PST by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: kattracks

Shake the dust from our feet and get out.


60 posted on 01/13/2005 6:02:12 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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