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Charles Krauthammer: After al Qaeda [China-led anti-American block ]
TownHall ^ | January 21, 2005 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 01/21/2005 8:24:24 AM PST by Tolik

Edited on 01/21/2005 10:32:27 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Where are we? At this midpoint of the Bush administration, engaged as we are in conflict throughout the world, are we winning?

The great democratic crusade undertaken by this administration is going far better than most observers will admit. That's the good news. The bad news is a development more troubling than most observers recognize: signs of the emergence, for the first time since the fall of the Soviet empire, of an anti-American bloc anchored by Great Powers.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; bushdoctrineunfolds; charleskrauthammer; china; krauthammer; military
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To: Tolik

we should beware of Chinese-inspired Islamist "distractions" that will force us to divert money and resources away from watching THEM.


21 posted on 01/21/2005 9:01:34 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tolik

Charles Krauthammer - is simpy THE BEST


22 posted on 01/21/2005 9:07:12 AM PST by Marguerite
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To: Tolik

Charles Krauthammer - is simply THE BEST


23 posted on 01/21/2005 9:07:50 AM PST by Marguerite
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To: rdb3
Fidel is about to be gone...

And the struggle for power after his death may well make Cuba a worse communist hell-hole than it already is.

Don't forget that the most active dissidents and their families have emigrated.

24 posted on 01/21/2005 9:11:24 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: rdb3

Hi!

I am NOT certain, but I believe Japan is still very restricted militarily under agreements with us after WWII.

Even if they wanted to , I don't think they could do anything about the
Chinese.

I agree with you completely about Cuba... old Fidel is getting kinda long in the tooth...and I can't see those folks staying communist once he dies.


25 posted on 01/21/2005 9:12:04 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: highflight
Indonesia is doing their best to wipe out the remaining fundamentalists in Aceh. We should be doing more to help them.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

26 posted on 01/21/2005 9:13:17 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: USF

Ping


27 posted on 01/21/2005 9:14:09 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Tolik
This is not a new Cold War. The United States will still remain the vastly predominant world power. But it is a challenge that history has waiting for us on the day the War on Terror is won, and perhaps even before.

It may be a little too late - forces are in play right now. We need to be much more viligent.

28 posted on 01/21/2005 9:15:43 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: River_Wrangler
Charles Krauthammer
for President in 08. He gets it!

The good doctor may get some important things correctly, but he doesn't get the Second Amendment. No, thank you.

30 posted on 01/21/2005 9:30:29 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Tolik

I've been thinking the same things but Charles Krauthammer says it so much better. Keep your eye on the China/Iran allienace. China gets oil and Iran gets cheap consumer goods plus nuclear and military technology.

This is very dangerous for our MidEast oil supply.


31 posted on 01/21/2005 9:32:32 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Jeff Head

PING


32 posted on 01/21/2005 9:37:03 AM PST by Tolik
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To: rdb3
First, if Japan is still our ally, wouldn't they feel the need to militarize themselves to check China?

The Japan-China Stew: Sweet and Sour

33 posted on 01/21/2005 9:38:13 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: DManA

Huh? China is not running out of space, and isn't particularly densely populated. They are resource hungry however.


34 posted on 01/21/2005 9:44:17 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: Tolik

at least some people are starting to understand China, that they are an enemy of the US. now if only more people would understand how they are using so-called "free trade" as a weapon against the US economy, we might have a better chance at taking them on before our industrial and technology base dissappears.


35 posted on 01/21/2005 9:49:15 AM PST by oceanview
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To: MrShoop

They are running out of space that is not desert wasteland. They are packed in cheek by jowl in the relatively small habitable areas of their admitedly huge country. And there are millions of acres of howling wilderness just across the border.</p>


36 posted on 01/21/2005 10:18:24 AM PST by DManA
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To: Tolik; rdb3; mhking; Trueblackman; wretchard; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Squantos; Rokke; Howlin; ...
"Putin's Russia, already moving decisively back to traditional Czarist authoritarianism, then suffers political defeat in Ukraine, which it considers its natural patrimony. This only compounds and embitters the feeling of alienation from the West in general, and from the United States in particular."

Krauthammer was right in his article until he typed the above sentences.

And in those sentences he goes fatally astray. What Krauthammer has done is fall into the current propaganda trap of the global left-wing news media.

Part of that "trap" is to think that the entire West is united. It is not. The West is at war with itself.

Pause and let that sentence sink in for a moment; the West is at war with itself.

What Krauthammer fails to consider is that it was *not* the U.S. that interfered in the Ukraine's election; it was France and Germany. They interefered in that election for a variety of reasons including installing a leader (Yushchencko) who immediately caused Ukraine's troops to be withdrawn from Iraq. Germany depends upon energy imports through Ukrainian pipelines for 75% of its domestic power. Now after their successful coup has installed Yushchenko in the Ukraine, Germany is no longer held hostage to Russian energy contracts that flowed through the Ukraine's pipelines. Russia's leverage over Germany is now gone.

In the meantime, France is now enticing the Ukraine to join the EU-only military (which excludes the U.S.) to further increase European power (at the expense of Russia).

But while Krauthammer fails to grasp such geopolitics, make no mistake that Vladimir Putin comprehends them.

So to Krauthammer, because of his intellectual blinders, he sees only that narrow perspective of a Cold War that continues on, West versus East.

But to Putin and Bush, the war that rages is against Islamic fundamentalism on the one hand, and that smolders via the new EU-super-state on the other.

It's no accident that France and Germany opposed the Iraq War. It's no accident that they have formed an EU-only military (which is now the main power-broker in Bosnia). It's no accident that they installed their own puppet in the Ukraine, either. Nor is it an accident that they are forming an enlarged EU with a single currency and Constitution.

This is a *classic* European powerplay, a move that is revisited time and again throughout their entire history.

...Next post: Krauthammer and China.

37 posted on 01/21/2005 10:49:52 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Tolik
"China in turn is developing relationships with such virulently anti-American rogue states as Iran."

...And China is also developing much larger relationships (financially, politically, socially) with the U.S. (e.g. Wal-Mart), Britain, Taiwan, Japan, Australia, Canada, South America, etc.

In other words, China has not yet made its decision on which side it will finally choose.

China is fighting Islamic radicalism in its remote Xinjiang province even as we speak. That's the same enemy being fought by Russia in Chechnya and the U.S. in Iraq and Afghanistan (a border nation of China's).

So China *shares* a common enemy with the great world Powers of India, Russia, and the U.S. That's hardly a recipe for going to war *against* the U.S. or India, and even Krauthammer manages to see that China is exploring better ties with Russia. Hmmm...

China's newfound prosperity is due to its largest customer: the U.S.

Going to war against the U.S. wound *end* that prosperity.

This is not to say that China will 100% choose our side, but it is to say that China has viable incentives to choose our side.

China is at a cross-roads junction. It might choose to side with the terrorists, or China might choose to side with the U.S.

In the short-term, the smart money says that China will continue to straddle the fence. Some moves will be seen as hostile to the U.S., other moves will be seen to favor the U.S.

China simply hasn't decided to decisively choose one side or the other.

Yet.

38 posted on 01/21/2005 11:06:11 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Bump.


39 posted on 01/21/2005 11:07:41 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Southack

Bumping your last thesis.

China has had a severe problem with violent Chinese Islamofascists for years. Shortly after 9/11, the Chinese Islamofascists blew a fast food outlet and other targets.


40 posted on 01/21/2005 11:12:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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