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Why Islam does not belong in America (Freeper Alert on Islamist Alert--Who's Watching Who?)
CAIR-NET ^ | 27 Jan 2005 | CAIR

Posted on 01/27/2005 6:48:20 PM PST by Cornpone

The concept of culture seems to have eluded the political left in America. By this I don't mean good music, art and cinema - although a quick glance at what passes for entertainment today certainly reinforces such a judgment. I mean culture in the wider sense, for it is culture that underlies and therefore determines the values and manner in which the majority of people in a nation live their daily lives.

The culture of the Western world grew out of Christian values. Among these are the immense value and significance of each human life, as demonstrated by God's willingness to sacrifice his own son, Jesus, rather than destroy humanity because it had failed to meet His standards. Another is the concept of human equality: Our differences shrink to insignificance when confronted with the glory, power, holiness and majesty of God. Thus with the widespread growth of Christianity, earthly kings suddenly found themselves accountable to God for the governing decisions they made. "Lex Rex" turned the world on its head, and ultimately helped give birth to America.

Today, there is another culture vying for America's attention. The values underlying this culture are watered from the deep springs of Islam. We see it expressed in "honor killings," forced religious conversions, women held as property and the slaughter of noncombatants to generate a day's headlines


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cair; christianity; freedom; islam; islamism; religionofpeace; terror; trop
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1 posted on 01/27/2005 6:48:20 PM PST by Cornpone
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The culture of the Western world grew out of Christian values.

Perhaps because I'm a relative newbie I shouldn't be so bold (or perhaps foolish) as to say this, but didn't the culture of the Western world grow out of Hellenistic values? Didn't Greek philosophy pave the way for Christendom? And weren't the Greeks the first Gentile converts to Christianity?

I'm asking these questions in all seriousness; I'm not just trying to be a pain in the butt.

2 posted on 01/27/2005 6:56:14 PM PST by two134711
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To: Cornpone

BTTT!


3 posted on 01/27/2005 7:09:49 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Proud Patriots dot ORG!!! Operation Valentine's Day!!)
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To: two134711
"I'm asking these questions in all seriousness; I'm not just trying to be a pain in the butt."

Believe me you're not a pain in the butt. My wife is. She's Greek...but you're right. Western civilization traces its roots back to ancient Greece and every summer that I can I make it a practice to climb Delphi. If you have never been there you should go.

4 posted on 01/27/2005 7:10:32 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone

last time I checked we have freedom of religion


5 posted on 01/27/2005 7:14:09 PM PST by honest2God
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To: honest2God
That wasn't my point.
6 posted on 01/27/2005 7:15:54 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: Cornpone; Clovis_Skeptic; Ah Beng; JudiL
and the American media can't stop wailing about the terrible evil of America's inquisitors marching terrorists around with panties over their heads. This is the focus of individuals who live in utter, complete and self-imposed exile from reality.

And their number is growing daily sad to say.

This is an excellent article and a must read.

7 posted on 01/27/2005 7:18:27 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations to President Bush and VP Cheney!!)
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To: honest2God

Islam is a death cult masquerading as a religion. In other words, 'BZZZZZT' - wrong answer, perhaps you try 'Terrorist Groups Hiding Behind Faux Religions' for $200, ok Alex?


8 posted on 01/27/2005 7:26:33 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Mad Mammoth

Doesn't matter what YOU think, fact is, it's a religion followed by over a billion people in some way or another. So the freedom of religion enjoyed by the citizens of this country still stands. Kill the terrorists, do not undermine the central values of our country.


9 posted on 01/27/2005 7:44:15 PM PST by honest2God
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To: Cornpone; Happy2BMe; SheLion; knighthawk

Today, there is another culture vying for America's attention. The values underlying this culture are watered from the deep springs of Islam.


Deep springs of islam?! LMAO! Deep cesspool is a better description.


Required reading:


Prophet of Doom - Islam’s Terrorist Dogma, In Muhammad’s Own Words


Islam is a caustic blend of regurgitated paganism and twisted Bible stories.
Muhammad, its lone prophet, conceived his religion solely to satiate his lust for power, sex, and money.
He was a terrorist.

And if you think these conclusions are shocking, wait until you see the evidence at www.prophetofdoom.net.



THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD: http://muhammadanism.org/Canon_Sell/default.htm


Radical Islam's 'plan' to take over America - Arab-American author outlines secret 20-year strategy to undermine country

The Islamic States of America?

Misunderstanding the Enemy: the Islamic Threat and the U.S. Media

Islamic Concept of Al-Taqiyah to infiltrate and destroy kafir countries

CAIR Proposes World Islamophobia Report

CAIR: 'Moderate' friends of terror

An Open Letter to Islamic Organizations in America

Islam: This is a truthful hardhitting analysis that all of Freerepublic, the West and America needs to read and understand

The Islamic Vacuum

Exploiting the Koran to Terrorize


A Seat at the Table: Islam Makes Inroads in Education

Spreading Islam in American Public Schools

Islamist Threat to Public Schools in Columbia, South Carolina?

Respecting Ramadan, Banning "Christmas" (School District Favors Muslims Over Christians)



"Why I left Islam", by Dr. Ali Sina


"...the real Islam is not what its philosophers and mystics have inferred but what is in the Quran and that is the Islam of the fundamentalist and the terrorist. The real Islam is the Islam that abuses women, that allows men to beat their wives, that imposes penalty tax on the religious minorities, that wants to dominate the world by subduing all the non-Muslims, that calls for Jihad and killing the non-believers until Islam becomes the only dominant religion of the World*."

"The enemy is Islam and that is the target of my attacks. I do that, despite knowing that I have become the magnet of the hatred of fanatical Muslims and my own life could be in danger.

Yet I know that by eradicating Islam we can save the world from the dangers of a catastrophe that otherwise is looming over our heads and could cause more disaster than the 1st and 2nd World Wars combined."


Islamic terror based on Qu’ran: ex-CIA official

"A former top official of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency paints a menacing picture of the relationship between Islam and terrorism.

"Islamic terrorism is based on Islam as revealed through the Qu’ran," keynote speaker Bruce Tefft claimed in a panel discussion at the University of Toronto on jihad and global terrorism.

And, he added, "There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism, which is a totalitarian construct..."

According to Tefft, the Qu’ran enjoins Muslims to believe that the whole world should be governed by the principles of Islam*, an expansionist religion that has historically grown through conquest..."



*‘Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth’

-- Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

10 posted on 01/27/2005 7:51:54 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

bookmarking


11 posted on 01/27/2005 7:53:44 PM PST by LisaMalia
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To: Mad Mammoth


12 posted on 01/27/2005 7:55:54 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform

BTTT


13 posted on 01/27/2005 7:59:33 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: EdReform; Thinkin' Gal; mrflashrifle; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; ...
And the updated map!

"This is an amazing book. Brilliantly argued and meticulously documented, this book contains a devastating expose of the murderous deceit behind contemporary apologists for militant Islam--in the media, political arena, academia and "mainstream" radical Islamic groups. Read this book to learn why Islamic extremism is dangerously entrenched within the institutional Islamic leadership in Saudi Arabia and the United States."
-- Steven Emerson, author of American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us and Director of the Investigative Project



14 posted on 01/27/2005 8:13:54 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: EdReform

15 posted on 01/27/2005 8:16:20 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: EdReform

Thanks for your informative post. I will use this to enlghten myself. Freeprs Rule!


16 posted on 01/27/2005 8:16:54 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11!)
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To: two134711
Perhaps because I'm a relative newbie I shouldn't be so bold (or perhaps foolish) as to say this, but didn't the culture of the Western world grow out of Hellenistic values?

It's not as though the Greeks didn't have influence but our values are Jewish and German and, especially, Christian.

Didn't Greek philosophy pave the way for Christendom?

The Grecian tradition of open inquiry made the Hellenic world a fertile mission field but Western Christiandom stems from the Latins through the Germans.

And weren't the Greeks the first Gentile converts to Christianity?

The first Gentile converts were Latins.

17 posted on 01/27/2005 8:28:20 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: two134711

Welcome to FR. I hope you like it here. It's a great place to be.


18 posted on 01/27/2005 8:32:47 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie; Happy2BMe
You're welcome! Happy2BMe originally posted the "Why I left Islam", by Dr. Ali Sina article and has lots of other great documentation.

Connect the red asterisks and learn the truth...

19 posted on 01/27/2005 8:39:51 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: SheLion
Since we all know where their headquarters are, why doesn't Bush shut them down?
20 posted on 01/27/2005 8:40:14 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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