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VANITY - Is John McCain foreign-born??
2/3/05 | RockinRight

Posted on 02/03/2005 10:53:49 AM PST by RockinRight

John McCain wants to be President, we all know. However, records say he was born in Panama. Wouldn't that make him unqualified due to not being a native-born citizen?


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KEYWORDS: 2008; mccain; mclame; mcpain; turass
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Just thought of this.
1 posted on 02/03/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by RockinRight
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To: RockinRight

You can be born out of the US, if your parents are citizens. I assume his parents were US Citizens, that would make him one, regardless of where he was born.


2 posted on 02/03/2005 10:55:15 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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If he was born in the Canal Zone, I believe that was soveriegn US soil until recently...


3 posted on 02/03/2005 10:56:01 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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no it would not disqualify him, he's the son of a Navy admiral born in the Panama Canal Zone, there's a rule that foreignborn kids of military personnel are counted as US born.


4 posted on 02/03/2005 10:56:56 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm a DU troll pretending to be a FReeper, how am I doing?)
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To: RockinRight

Nope, if I recall correctly he was born on U.S. soil in Panama making him a natural born citizen both by parentage and location.


5 posted on 02/03/2005 10:57:50 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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I was born in Spain but am an American citizen. My father, an Air Force Vet, was stationed in Seville Spain when I was born. I was born on a military base there.

My brother was born in Germany. He too is a citizen.

I know McCain is from a military family also. Might he have been born on a US base?


6 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:19 AM PST by Republican Red (DU: ''Reality sucks. That's the problem. We want another reality.'')
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To: RockinRight

Was his father in the Military or Political Service of the United States of America at the time John was born? I am sure his parents were (are in the case of his mother) US citizens.


7 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:48 AM PST by msnimje
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Egads! Hope he runs on the demoncRAT ticket.


8 posted on 02/03/2005 10:58:54 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: gridlock

ya, until Jimmy Carter gave it away.(Barry Goldwater said "we stole it fair and square, and we should keep it!)


9 posted on 02/03/2005 10:59:12 AM PST by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: gridlock

I googled it and yes, he was born in the Canal Zone. I didn't think about it that way.


10 posted on 02/03/2005 10:59:19 AM PST by RockinRight (It's NOT too early to start talking about 2006...or 2008.)
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It's not that you have to be born in the US, it's that you have to be born a U.S. Citizen. Children born to US parents overseas (even not on military bases) are "natural born" US citizens.


11 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:16 AM PST by Dyvim
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A famous US navy admiral.


12 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:19 AM PST by demlosers
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To: William of Orange
there's a rule that foreignborn kids of military personnel

That would mean Ahnold would qualify. He was a foriegn-born son of a military man.

13 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: johnandrhonda

If only Goldwater could run again...

Actually, why not take DNA from Goldwater and Reagan and have one of those cloning doctors create a "super-Republican" to run for Pres in 2008?


14 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:32 AM PST by RockinRight (It's NOT too early to start talking about 2006...or 2008.)
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Why should it disqualify him? Should parents serving overseas in the military forfeit the possibility of their children becoming president?


15 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:37 AM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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Wouldn't that make him unqualified due to not being a native-born citizen?

No [see prior posts]. What disqualifies McCain is that he is a RINO and a moron.

16 posted on 02/03/2005 11:00:39 AM PST by elbucko (Feral Republican)
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A child, born in a foriegn country, to American parents is an American Citizen. You do not need to be on American soil or a base or be a natural born citizen.


17 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:25 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.


18 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:36 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: AppyPappy

US military personell (ie US citizens abroad)


19 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:38 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm a DU troll pretending to be a FReeper, how am I doing?)
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I don't care where the .... McPain was born he ain't gonna be our next President no matter what!
20 posted on 02/03/2005 11:01:39 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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