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Stealth Cloning
national review online ^ | February 15, 2005, | Wesley J. Smith

Posted on 02/15/2005 11:31:09 AM PST by tbird5

Let's call it "stealth human-cloning legalization." It's easy to do: First, write a proposed law that you claim outlaws human cloning. But then, engage in a little slight of hand here, some redefining of a few crucial terms there, and voila! — your supposed cloning ban actually authorizes human cloning, implantation, and gestation through the ninth month.

That is what New Jersey legislators did when they passed and then Governor James McGreevey signed S-1909 last year, a law that was sold to the public as outlawing human cloning but which actually permits the creation of cloned human life, and its implantation and gestation up to and including the very moment prior to the emergence of the cloned baby from the birth canal.

Other state legislators have tried the same shell game without success, specifically in Texas, Delaware, Maryland, and Illinois. And now Washington joins the infamous list with Senate Bill 5594, a thoroughly disingenuous piece of legislation that purports to outlaw the cloning of human beings, but by manipulating language and redefining terms, actually permits human cloning and gestation of the resulting cloned embryos through the ninth month.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionlist; babyfactory; babyparts; bodyparts; cloning; embryo; harvestingbabies; nationalreview; njclones; njcloning; s1909; science; stealthcloning; technology; wesleyjsmith; wesleysmith

1 posted on 02/15/2005 11:31:10 AM PST by tbird5
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To: tbird5

Tom Clancy should get a hold of this. Combine cloning with the Manchurian Candidate scenario...wow, the ultimate secret weapon. I always said, the best weapon against the Arabs would be to clone about 5000 pairs of Hitlery and Billary....and air drop them over the Arab countries....HAAAAAA!!! That would serve them right.


2 posted on 02/15/2005 11:34:33 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
Tom would be too late ... I just finished Evil Interrupted. I won't tell you the plot, but suffice it to say stem cell exploitation, cloning AND abortion are central to the theme.

What upsets folks like Smith (and anyone who believes cannibalism is wrong) is the outright lie being foisted by those pushing this demoniacally inspired 'science': that a human being will not be made from whom to harvest body parts ... the purpose is exactly that, to conceive a duplicate being from whom they will harvest the parts they desire; but they euphemistically call it 'therapeutic cloning'. I'm not surprised a degenerate mind like the NJ governor signed such evil into law, but I am surprised that more isn't shouted from the rooftops, to expose these lying cannibalizers for what they are!

3 posted on 02/15/2005 11:45:25 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I just finished Evil Interrupted.
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Sounds good - I have not read it yet -- gotta get it. Thanks for the heads-up.


4 posted on 02/15/2005 11:48:34 AM PST by EagleUSA
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PING))))))
5 posted on 02/15/2005 11:49:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: EagleUSA

Searching for a publisher presently. It may be too hot a subject for a publisher to chance it.


6 posted on 02/15/2005 11:50:25 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


7 posted on 02/15/2005 11:53:08 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: MHGinTN

BTTT!!!!!!


8 posted on 02/15/2005 12:02:04 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: tbird5

Headless Human Clones -- providing fresh, high-quality, high-profit replacement organs and body parts.


9 posted on 02/15/2005 12:08:46 PM PST by polymuser
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To: polymuser

Clones. No souls for them to worry about and no relatives to mourn their passing. That's one Hell on an Army.


10 posted on 02/15/2005 12:43:15 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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11 posted on 02/15/2005 4:35:33 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Chrome wheeled, fuel injected and steppin' out over the line)
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To: tbird5; Mr. Silverback; MHGinTN; Coleus; cpforlife.org

This week's JAMA has an article about Dr. Daley, who wants to develop oocytes from stem cells and then the ability to make cloned embryos and embryonic stem cells for each transplant recipient.

It is a fiction that any of these cells will be "normal." Just think, the oocytes from aborted baby girls, induced to grow in tissue culture and the cloned embryos produced by them, induced to grow by electrical and chemical stimulants and telomerase fudging, stripped of their outer covering and then, just the right cells are grown in just the right environment and media in order to grow only the tissues that are desired. I don't think this sounds like a way to obtain normal, long-lived tissues at all.

What Dr. Daley ought to be doing is research on the chemical signals that cause the in situ stem cells to develop into the tissues we want. These techniques can be discovered by using animal models, umbilical, bone marrow, and other non-killing techniques with adult stem cells, and even with the current embryonic stem cell lines that were killed under the Clinton Administration's fiction that government money could be used to develop the products of killed humans, but not for killing those humans.

Forget "First, do no harm." This is create new ways to make people and then kill them for their parts.

We are each more than the sum of our parts and I can prove it: just reduce any of us to our parts, and we will be dead. Just as any of our children who are created in a petri dish are made dead by mining them for their parts.


12 posted on 02/16/2005 3:49:40 AM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc

I get berated fro calling it cannibalism ... but it is.


13 posted on 02/16/2005 1:22:16 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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14 posted on 02/17/2005 9:53:10 PM PST by Coleus (http://www.reversingroe.com/ Hear Norma McCorvey in this film)
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To: Coleus; MHGinTN

Research material on cloning from a university network. The network is international. I've found results from their work that suggests human cloning has been done and is still being done successfully.

I've sent that info out before and I've been hit with tin foil.

http://goexcelglobal.com/NJ_DefenseForce/rrb_0307_8.pdf


15 posted on 02/17/2005 10:14:00 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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16 posted on 05/10/2006 9:35:57 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies and their mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton started it through exec. order)
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To: tbird5
Here Come the NJ Clones

17 posted on 05/10/2006 9:49:17 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies and their mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton started it through exec. order)
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To: Coleus

Thanks again for the ping and the info. Now I understand the background story. I had no idea... what a sneaky piece of legislation.


18 posted on 05/10/2006 10:47:40 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: massgopguy

what the heck, it worked in Star Wars...


19 posted on 05/10/2006 11:30:31 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Welcome to America--Now speak English or LEAVE!)
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