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Tainted John Kerry
kerry's records ^ | 2/18/05

Posted on 02/18/2005 9:36:38 AM PST by pabianice

Following upon Thomas Sowell's excellent essay on the MSM's continued protection of John Kerry from any negative press, I came across several additional pieces of the puzzle.

Sowell makes the point that Kerry never signed his Form 180, making public his Navy record, while Bush did so for his ANG record. However, a further look at Kerry's DD-214 -- the document issued to every US servicemember who leaves active duty after more than 180 days of service -- shows several interesting things the NY Times and Boston Globe would kill to keep secret. Note that:

1. Kerry was separated from the Navy in 1972 with the rank of LTJG (O-2). However, Kerry's own hagiography notes that he was promoted to LT (O-3) in 1970.

2. In 1972, Kerry's six year contract with the Navy had ended (he enlisted in 1966, per the above webpage). However, his DD-214 refuses to issue him his discharge as was normal procedure.

3. Kerry has congratulated himself for meetinmg with the enemy Communist Vietnamese in Paris in 1971.

In summary, no one who has been promoted leaves the Navy at a lower rank unless some judicial punishment has been handed down. No one who has been separated at the end of his contract is discharged six years later unless records have been tampered with. And under US law, Kerry committed treason when he met with the enemy in 1971.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: form180; kerry; kerrydischarge; kerryisaschmuck; kerryrecord; thomassowell
OK, New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post -- prove you are real newspapers and not simply ass-kissers for the DNC. I'm not holding my breath.
1 posted on 02/18/2005 9:36:40 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

bttt


2 posted on 02/18/2005 9:40:58 AM PST by trisham (proudly jackbooted and pajama clad!)
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To: pabianice
"I'm not holding my breath."

Please don't. . .it would mean the end to your 'freeping'. . .

These things came out from various sources during Kerry campaign. . .they are facts; and facts, not just the MSM chose to ignore, but worse. . .the RNC and/or rather; Karl Rove.

3 posted on 02/18/2005 9:42:13 AM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: pabianice

Aren't you a little early to be starting the Hillary nomination campaign? Oh well, let's get it out there so the media can discuss it in depth. Yeah, right!


4 posted on 02/18/2005 9:43:38 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: pabianice

More than anything else, it galls me that this is the best 'man' the Liberals could field against President Bush. AND, that they are still angry and hostile about the conditions of their very sound and solid defeat!


5 posted on 02/18/2005 9:54:07 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus to his sons)
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To: pabianice
What the MSM needs is a 'million-man,' torchlight procession of disgusted Americans armed with tar, feathers and pitchforks.

That's my 'peaceful solution'.

6 posted on 02/18/2005 10:02:17 AM PST by johnny7
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To: pabianice

What galls me is that the media still hasnt apologised to the Swift Boat Veterans for calling them liars.


7 posted on 02/18/2005 10:03:24 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: cricket
The RNC and Rove chose to take the high road, and I do not blame them. Any assertion concerning these facts, and the RNC would have been attacked by the MSM. You adapt in this kind of campaign, and as shown by the results, the RNC and Rove played the game perfectly.
8 posted on 02/18/2005 10:13:24 AM PST by carolinacrazy (www.JackassDemocrats.com)
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To: sgtbono2002
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - BUMP

John O'Neill was interviewed by Kirby Wilbur (KVI-Seattle) this morning at the CPAC meeting in DC.

He is a true American hero. I am confident that if necessary, he will make John Kerry's treasonous activities the centerpiece of the 2008 campaign.

9 posted on 02/18/2005 10:14:23 AM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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To: sgtbono2002

And it was the integrity of the Swift boat Veterans for Truth that exposed the camophlage of Kerry's War Hero
Campaign. Note his BIO now suggest some marginal change
and he no longer claims his Navy service ended when he
came back from the brown water of RVN. HE has yet to
contront his LIEs about being the next JFK form Mass. But
so long as they keep supporting him, and Kennedy, and
others like them Mass. will continue to drink of the vine of Sodom.


10 posted on 02/18/2005 10:15:20 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: pabianice

BUMP!!!


11 posted on 02/18/2005 10:15:44 AM PST by PilloryHillary (Welcome to America...now speak English)
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To: ariamne; Former Dodger; jan in Colorado; broadsword

Ping! Some old news, some new on John F. 'wishes he was Kennedy' sKerry.

This news will be widely aired in the MSM if/when Hillary decides to run (for '08) in mid '07. Otherwise it will continue to be media-suppressed.


12 posted on 02/18/2005 10:16:09 AM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: pabianice
Tim Russert held Kerry's feet to the fire on this.

Russert asked him if he would sign, back in April '04. He said he would, then hem-hawed and rambled onto a vague deflection that he had 'released all the records he had received'. [Caveat: He release all he received, but he didn't say he received ALL of the docs.]

Russert asked him if he would sign, back in Kerry's '05 appearance on MTP just a few weeks ago. He said he would, then hem-hawed and rambled onto a vague deflection that he had 'released all the records he had received'. [Caveat: He release all he received, but he didn't say he received ALL of the docs.]

Yep, Russert is hot after this. And he will be sure and pursue it around April or May of '08. [Snicker, yeh, right!]
13 posted on 02/18/2005 10:22:56 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


14 posted on 02/18/2005 10:36:35 AM PST by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: carolinacrazy
"You adapt in this kind of campaign, and as shown by the results, the RNC and Rove played the game perfectly."

. . .you may be right; but personally would like to see the truth stated; the facts offered; particularly when it comes to a candidate and an entire Party, who must choose lies over truth. . .who goals, justify any means. . .

Yes, we won. . .but maybe had Repubs been less fearful of the truth of Kerry; there would have been NO 'blue' states.

This would make it at the least, more difficult for the Dems to recreate/rewrite a campaign history and it's message; and of course, there could be NO pretending by Demrats; no delusions on the Left. . .that this election was close or that their message just did not reach deep enough, into the 'country'. . . .

Better, the Demrat's would be exposed for the frauds that they are; and reveal, unequivically; a complete and total 'fraud'; the best candidate this Party could offer.

15 posted on 02/18/2005 10:37:01 AM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: pabianice

Who's John Kerry?


16 posted on 02/18/2005 10:41:03 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Free Speech is a Right. Being Wrong is Just...Wrong.)
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To: pabianice

I once heard that John Kerry was in Vietnam...


17 posted on 02/18/2005 10:42:03 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Do your chickens have large talons?")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

He ran arms to the Cambodian communists.


18 posted on 02/18/2005 11:07:18 AM PST by Norman Conquest (Kerry "honors a faith tradition." Bush believes in "God." You do the math.)
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To: Norman Conquest

If after reading Dr Sowell's commentary, you still have some doubt about him or you simply insist on reliving the past, have fun.
All sane people realize Kerry is a closed chapter. He's gone. He lost. It's over.


19 posted on 02/18/2005 11:46:37 AM PST by CBart95
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To: StonyBurk

The Damned fool still claims he was in Cambodia for Christmas , only now it was a CIA secret trip. Just the other day he offered to give Bush a few tips on the Middle east and the Iraq war, I dont understand why the guys in the white coats havent come for the delusional mental case.


20 posted on 02/18/2005 12:01:21 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: AmericanArchConservative

He IS a traitor, pure and simple.

He was still in the USN when he met with the enemy in Paris, that is treason.

He needs to be removed from the Senate, since he has no right to hold the office, because he is a TRAITOR.

Leave it to MA: Senior Senator is a drunken murderer, Jr. Senator is a Traitor.

Oh, how the patriot forefathers must be spinning in their graves!


21 posted on 02/18/2005 12:20:11 PM PST by Former Dodger (There is nothing quite so good as burial at sea. It is simple, tidy, and not very incriminating. AH)
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To: FreePaul

You make a good point. If Kerry ever became a thorn in Hillary's side during the primary, she could take him out with this charge. Of course, the media would be interested in the story then.


22 posted on 02/18/2005 12:24:22 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; Seadog Bytes; Chieftain; jrlc; ...

traitor ping

interesting addition to Sowell's article


23 posted on 02/18/2005 5:24:48 PM PST by bitt ("Conservatism is the dominant political creed in America,")
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To: pabianice; All

"OK, New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post -- prove you are real newspapers and not simply ass-kissers for the DNC. I'm not holding my breath."

Tainted media [Kerry's 'honorable' discharge?]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345874/posts

"Some of the public have begun to wake up but more need to do so.
Many in the media also need to wake up to what they are doing, or failing to do,
when their politics taints their work."

TownHall.com ^ | February 18, 2005 | Thomas Sowell

For those who say the GOP can't acknowledge Swift Boat Vets,
they are wrong.

Karl Rove also exposed the false testimony by Hanoi Kerry in 1971

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

"...Rove recalled that his uncle had done several tours of duty in Vietnam.
I've never been able to think of Colonel Verhi as somebody who would have
'raped and pillaged in a manner reminiscent of Genghis Khan,'"
a reference to Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony where he accused Vietnam veterans
of committing widespread atrocities."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

Can anyone name 1 so called MAIN Stream Right Wing Media
personality

(we know Russert on tv and Imus on radio from the Left have)

that has asked,

in 2005,

these questions?

"Asked Kerry when he will sign Form 180.

Or why Kerry is still in the US Senate.
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3

Or when Kerry will set the record straight
on his false testimony in April 71"

BUT he's still attacking President Bush in '05

Kerry Trashes Bush in Baghdad Jan '05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315333/posts

Kerry: Bush Still Hiding His Guard Records Feb '05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341323/posts


24 posted on 02/18/2005 5:42:48 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (The US Senate only has 99 legal Senators, and 1 illegal one. U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3)
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To: CBart95
All sane people realize Kerry is a closed chapter. He's gone. He lost. It's over.

Rush was saying yesterday that the word is that Kerry tells friends (I didn't know he actually had or wanted real friends!) that the 2008 nomination is his for the taking. Oh, wait -- you said sane people!

Rush introduced the piece by wondering if Kerry was avoiding Ft. Marcy Park.

25 posted on 02/19/2005 1:36:53 AM PST by maryz
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To: maryz

LOL! Thanks Mare. I need to follow my own unsolicited ,freely given advice it seems. Kerry is still "good copy" for many.
Still he easily falls (for me) into the ScotPetersen,MichaelJacksonPsuedoCrappola that assaults us daily.


26 posted on 02/19/2005 4:28:01 AM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

ADD: Your Vince Foster allusion is intriguing.
Care to elaborate? Or do you like leaving a trail of cookie crumbs?


27 posted on 02/19/2005 4:33:55 AM PST by CBart95
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To: CBart95

The Vince Foster allusion was Rush's, and he didn't elaborate. I'm sure, though, that he knew his listeners would understand it as a reference to what happens to little boys and girls who run afoul of the Big Bad Hillary, who -- I think it's generally conceded -- will see Kerry get the nomination over her dead body, or his. LOL!


28 posted on 02/19/2005 6:25:25 AM PST by maryz
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To: cricket
Honestly, while losing consistently for over ten years now, don't you think the position of democrats that their message just wasn't deep enough helps us? If we can allow them to continue their assault on America, this will only lead to more defeats. It is actually a wonderful plan. Republicans do not need to expose the truth for us, we already know it due to our knowledge of the issues. Most democrats choose to believe falsehoods, and therefore cannot be turned. The moderates are turning our way, and this plan is working just fine. I do understand where you are coming from though, I just learned to not sweat the jackass democrats.
29 posted on 02/19/2005 1:01:32 PM PST by carolinacrazy (www.JackassDemocrats.com)
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To: carolinacrazy
"Honestly, while losing consistently for over ten years now, don't you think the position of democrats that their message just wasn't deep enough helps us?"

Oh sure. . .they simply confirm the 'stupid' for most sane people. . .as did Michael Moore & Hollywood, et al. . . but see no value to making it soooo easy for the Left/Demrats to create and sustain their 're-writes'. . .to reconstruct the truth into no more, than a 'means to their evil ends'.

The Demrats still get mileage from their re-creation of GW's first election. They were determined to damage GW's 'legitimacy'. . .so as to weaken his Presidency. They did do damage, of course. . . and the world community picked up on the same.

That election for Bush should have been a clean knock-out against Gore(Clinton). . .Had more of the truth been told; it would have been. . .and the Florida debacle could never have happened.

It is always a lie that empowers the Left; just think, more of the truth should be called upon to zap their best efforts. . .it is available and it is 'free'; but most of all; the truth of these people deserves to told.

Their lies hurt us. . .they hurt our Military; and our best efforts. . .

. . .I am of course; most grateful for the gains we have made; and for the 'stupid' of the Demrats; and for the 'smarts' of so many voters and that Karl Rove is still standing tall. . .and that President Bush stands now, even taller. . .

Do think still, however. . .that truth, brought to light; in a few more places; and on a few more faces; could have made both GW's campaigns; less painful and his 'four years' less painful as well.

And we would not have wasted one breath. . .even discussing a recount; anywhere. ;^)

30 posted on 02/19/2005 8:37:38 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: bitt; Smartass; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

RE: Tainted Kerry (Traitor ping)... Thanks for the ping!

This Kerry thing really isn't OVER yet, is it? ...I still can't figure out why this poseur wasn't in chains in the brig long ago.

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31 posted on 02/19/2005 9:53:45 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("Benedict Arnold was a 'war hero' TOO... Before he became a Traitor.")
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To: pabianice

While this really has nothing to do with this thread, I didn't really want to start a new thread about Kerry with this observation...

Did anyone else notice how "Tereza" is back to being Mrs Heinz, as apposed to Mrs Heinz-Kerry?

How bad is it when your wife not only refuses to use your name, but she keeps the name of your predecessor! Remember, he maiden name WAS NOT Heinz!

I return you to your regularly scheduled thread...

Mark


32 posted on 02/19/2005 9:59:42 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: cricket

I agree.


33 posted on 02/20/2005 5:05:48 AM PST by carolinacrazy (www.JackassDemocrats.com)
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