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Iranian Alert - March 11, 2005 - The EU3 agree to refer Iran to the Security Council if talks fail
Regime Change Iran ^ | 3.11.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 03/11/2005 5:00:48 AM PST by DoctorZIn

Top News Story

U.S. to back EU over Iran

Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:48 AM GMT

By Arshad Mohammed and Carol Giacomo

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration, in a major shift, will adopt a European proposal to offer Iran economic incentives to abandon its nuclear ambitions, U.S. and European officials say.

The United States is expected to allow Iran to join the World Trade Organisation and buy aircraft spare parts and, in return, Britain, France and Germany have agreed to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council if it fails to give up its suspected nuclear weapons program, the officials said.

The united U.S.-European approach, expected to be announced in coordinated, separate statements on Friday, would mark an important milestone in efforts to curb what Washington believes is Iran's attempts to develop nuclear arms.

A U.S. decision to embrace economic incentives is a significant reversal from Washington's previous refusal to reward Iran for what it regards as bad behaviour.

The Europeans, in turn, would shift gears by pledging that if their negotiations with Iran collapse or if Tehran reneges on a promise to suspend nuclear enrichment activities, they will join Washington in bringing the issue to the U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters U.S. and European views on dealing with Iran's nuclear program were converging. Later, authoritative sources said a common position would come on Friday.

"We talked through in great detail the Iran issue with the Europeans. They are very firm how to ensure Iran's compliance, so we're preparing to take some steps to support them," one U.S. official told Reuters.

Another U.S. official added: "The Europeans are ready to make sure Iran meets her obligations and to look at what next steps to take."

"We are really coming to a common view of how to proceed," Rice told reporters during a trip to Mexico when asked about European diplomatic efforts to resolve the matter. "We are making a lot of progress and will come to conclusion on that fairly soon."

U.S. SKEPTICAL DIPLOMACY WILL SUCCEED

The United States accuses Iran of using its civilian nuclear program as a cover to develop nuclear weapons. Iran denies this, saying its nuclear program is for peaceful power generation.

Washington can effectively block Tehran from joining the WTO and from importing aircraft parts with substantial U.S. content, making U.S. support vital if Iran is to get either benefit.

While deeply sceptical the European diplomacy will work, U.S. officials have said they want to give it the best chance of success and to insulate themselves from blame if it fails.

"I want to be very clear that this is really not an issue of what people should be giving to Iran. This is an issue ... of keeping the spotlight on Iran, which ought to be living up to its international obligations," Rice said.

Some U.S. officials had indicated they wanted specific commitments from the Europeans to bring the Iran issue to the Security Council in June or another specific date and to support sanctions once the council took up the matter.

But one U.S. official told Reuters: "There's not a lot of detail, not a lot of specificity" on these points.

He said the European statement was expected to generally reaffirm verbal commitments by European officials to join the United States in bringing Iran to the Security Council but would not specifically define what constitutes a breakdown in negotiations.

"If you have a commitment in principle, that's pretty good," the U.S. official said.

U.S. and European officials said that while they discussed such issues as deadlines and sanctions, the administration in the end did not insist on specific EU commitments on these points. The EU statement is not expected to mention sanctions directly, officials and diplomats said.

A European diplomat said the EU view is that "we go (to the Security Council) if Iran breaks its commitments," including if some new revelation about covert nuclear facilities or activities is uncovered.

A Daily Briefing of Major News Stories on Iran:

56 Iranian protesters refused to leave an aircraft in Belgium yesterday calling for the EU to end its support of the Islamic Republic of Iran. They were eventually removed, but praised by many. I have included a few interesting photos of the demonstration.



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1 posted on 03/11/2005 5:00:52 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 03/11/2005 5:02:38 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

"agreed to refer Iran to the U.N. Security Council if it fails to give up its suspected nuclear weapons program"

How will they or the U.S. be able to show or prove this any more than they already have?


3 posted on 03/11/2005 5:21:42 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: DoctorZIn
ahh, just what the Europeans are good at...appeasement. The only way i can understand Bush and Condi's reasoning for this crap is too give all the Ao's in the EU a big FU, and a huge 'I TOLD YOU SO' too bad it wont be heard so good on account of NUCLEAR FALLOUT..anyways
4 posted on 03/11/2005 5:22:12 AM PST by BrianCG (Fur is Murder...yeah, to clean)
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To: DoctorZIn
feint perhaps?

VDH "Few militaries now or in the past, without any advanced planning and in less than a month, could pull off an invasion of a country of 26 million, and 8,000 miles away"

MSG Isa 13:2 I’ve taken charge of my special forces, called up my crack troops. They’re bursting with pride and passion to carry out my angry judgement.

When all else fails, read the instructions (CCEL > Bibles and Commentaries)

5 posted on 03/11/2005 6:46:48 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0
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To: DoctorZIn
Question for you because you seem to follow this quite closely.

Some of the uprisings of last year involved SHOTTING BACK? If this is the case isn't this a HUGE development in the region. The news talks about the porous borders that are letting the T's into Iraq, can't help but to think we are using this "porus border" in the other direction. Or is there another way for them to get guns?

When all else fails, read the instructions (CCEL > Bibles and Commentaries)

6 posted on 03/11/2005 6:57:32 AM PST by isaiah55version11_0
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To: DoctorZIn; All
Look at this sign DoctorZin posted on his Blog! This was one of the signs that the Iranians on the plane brought with them. THE EU IS STILL ASLEEP!!! Forget 'em, Dubya, and just do what you need to do.


7 posted on 03/11/2005 7:23:09 AM PST by Reborn
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To: DoctorZIn

Bump!


8 posted on 03/11/2005 9:44:03 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: DoctorZIn; nuconvert; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP
The EU3 agree to refer Iran to the Security Council if talks fail

Brilliant! A UN resolution! The crap that failed for 12 years against Saddam Hussein, for 10 years against Syria vis a vis Lebanon!


9 posted on 03/11/2005 3:11:30 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
bump! bump! bump!

10 posted on 03/11/2005 3:49:28 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Bush may be a great president, but he doesn't have the backbone that people suggest he has. Therefore, I must change my signature.

We could have taken out Syria almost two years ago, but Bush apparently was more interested in re-election than in taking down internation terrorism. True, we probably didn't have a good plan for "the day after." But also true is that more than a thousand American soldiers have died from insurgent actions since then.

War rarely ever goes according to plan.

Now the absolutely disgusting things Bush is saying now. Basically offering to pay Iran not to attack us. I know, I know, it's all part of Bush's stupid game with the Europeans. We all know 3+ months won't make a bit of difference. Besides, if it makes it to the joke known as the UN Security Council, China will veto it. So we'll be right back to where we are today - unilateral action or else. And how long do you think Israel is willing to just wait??? While you play your games, Israel may be forced to potentially destabilize the entire Middle East in self-defense.

Did you notice that the Iranian plane protestors (I salute all of you!) also called on the US to stop negiotating with the Iranian regime? They know what's going on. Ultimately, Bush's game might work. But what he's saying will be very disheartening to Iranian freedom-lovers. On January 20th, he was gung-ho on freedom. It certainly doesn't sound like that now. Bush has now descended to attempted bribery. Why didn't you try to bribe Saddam? I thought it was against US policy to negiotate with terrorists? Why should the Iranian people trust you now?

Again, Bush's game might work, but I hope he's thought about all the consequences. The fact is, the only good option for Iran is for the Iranians themselves to revolt. What Bush says now hinders that.

Is Bush trying to cement a legacy together, and look good in the face of the international world? I certainly hope not.

For the final time - this is supposed to be the War on Terror, *not* Negiotate with Terror !!!

All right, I'll settle down. For now....


11 posted on 03/11/2005 4:13:12 PM PST by JWojack ("We are speaking with one voice with our European friends"; Bush is lying and people are dying.)
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To: nuconvert

EU3 sucks...


12 posted on 03/11/2005 5:06:11 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar

You can say that again!


13 posted on 03/11/2005 7:43:40 PM PST by JWojack ("We are speaking with one voice with our European friends"; Bush is lying and people are dying.)
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To: JWojack

Hang in there. Have faith


14 posted on 03/11/2005 9:17:20 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: DoctorZIn
This thread is now closed.

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15 posted on 03/12/2005 5:45:09 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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