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NY Times: Iraq Had WMD 'Stockpiles' in 2003
News Max ^ | March 13, 2005 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 03/13/2005 7:26:41 AM PST by MisterRepublican

In a stunning about-face, the New York Times reported Sunday that when the U.S. attacked Iraq in March 2003, Saddam Hussein possessed "stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials," as well as sophisticated equipment to manufacture nuclear and biological weapons, which was removed to "a neighboring state" before the U.S. could secure the weapons sites.

The U.N.'s Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission [Unmovic], "has filed regular reports to the Security Council since last May," the paper said, "about the dismantlement of important weapons installations and "the export of dangerous materials to foreign states."

"Officials of the commission and the [International] Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly called on the Iraqi government to report on what it knows of the fate of the thousands of pieces of monitored equipment and stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials."

Last fall, IAEA director Dr. Mohamed ElBaradei confirmed that "nuclear-related materials" had gone missing from monitored sites, calling on the interim Iraqi government to start the process of accounting for the missing stockpiles still ostensibly under the agency's supervision.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2003; araji; bsmeteronhigh; draraji; goofyanan; iraq; nukesmissing; nyslimes; nyt; nytracktracking; stockpiles; unbungling; unsucks; wmd; wmdwasthere
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To: dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach
The article mentions several times that the weapons might have landed in Syria (or Iran), impliedly due to US neglect in securing them. With the possibility of US action in Syria looming, is this some kind of prelude to an outcry over any US action in Syria, ie US military action causes proliferation, makes the situation worse? Or a warning that Syria is too dangerous and should not be provoked?

Syria's WMD program and usage predate's Iraq's. They used poison gas to quell "discontent" in Hama, a Syrian city, back in 1982.

Congressional Record - HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES CONTINUE IN SYRIA (Senate - May 12, 1992)
"Mr. DeCONCINI. Mr. President, the state of human rights in Syria is well characterized in the opening line of the State Department's 1991 document, `Country Reports on Human Rights Practices,' which declares: Syria is ruled by an authoritative regime which does not hesitate to use force against its citizens if it feels threatened....In 1982, Hafiz Assad demonstrated to the international community how ruthless his regime could be by his brutal attacks on the northern cities of Hama and Aleppo. At these locations an uprising developed, led by a group called the Muslim Brotherhood, which resulted in an enormous use of force by Assad's security forces. When the insurrection was finally subdued, between 10,000 to 20,000 people were dead. The city of Hama was literally bulldozed. But it is not only his own people that President Assad treats in such an appalling fashion...." [/snip]

Additional sources:
"In the Syrian city of Hama, an insurrection by the Moslem Brothers was suppressed with rare brutality in modern history. The Alawite army isolated the city, cutting off any contact with the outside, and opened a ground and aerial bombing. According to Amnesty International, the Syrian military had placed rubber pipes at the entrance of buildings where insurgents were said to be hiding and pumped in poison gas. It is claimed that there were some 30,000 dead in Hama. The Alawite army attacked the entire population, both Christians and Moslems."
Historical Fact: Syria terrorism and war crimes - February 1982

The Hama Massacre of 1982 - Syria's regime brutally massacres it's own people

221 posted on 03/14/2005 6:10:56 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Samwise

So first it was that they had nothing, now its they had it but stupid Bush let it get away.
Next it was, Bush didn't let it get away but stupid Bush let even "badder" people get it.


222 posted on 03/14/2005 7:50:25 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: EBH

Again, I find it hard to believe that "looters" would wait till the war started to start dismantaling this equipment and risk getting caught. They knew the war was coming.
They pulled the stuff they wanted out before the invasion and shipped it off to Syria.


223 posted on 03/14/2005 8:05:12 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

I hope that the NYT conferred with Scott Ritter before publishing this article. The fact remains that Anti-Bush people will never ever believe that there ever was any WMDs or chemical weapons. The damage of the long lie by the MSM has been done.


224 posted on 03/14/2005 8:12:43 AM PST by Holicheese (This is Hockey East)
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To: jriemer

Disgusting. This Syrian use of WMD is well documented albeit ignored in the rush to only recite crimes of US imperialism.

I guess this happened before Amnesty only documented Western human rights violations.


225 posted on 03/14/2005 8:54:22 AM PST by dervish (Nihilism is dead)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; PhilDragoo

If the Slimes said that there were WMDs in Iraq in 2003, that means they knew that the WMDs were in Syria and maybe Iran. Now that secret is about to come out.

This whole No WMDs in Iraq was a controlled sham/trick from day one.

As soon as the last WMD left the Iraqi borders in 2003 for Syria or Iraq, the left wing maggot mediots in charge of the MSM of the world started screaming that there were no WMDS in Iraq.

At that time our warriors were still fighting the Iraqis and there was no way the mediots could know that there were no WMDS in Iraq, unless they were told the WMDS were gone.

Now it appears the NY Slimes is getting to do a 180 degree reversal on their screams of no WMDs in Iraq for close to two years. The only reason they are doing that is simple. We are about to find out where the WMDs went and when and who helped.


226 posted on 03/14/2005 9:24:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: dervish; jriemer

Could be, or at least stalling long enough to get WMD's out of the Bekaa if they are there. Especially with France suddenly involved I am suspicious, because they are one of the top materials suppliers for WMD programs in the Middle East. They have a vested interest in none of this being found, would love to embarrass the US while strengthening their own hand on the world stage.

Now with the Times jumping in again post election (but not vetting anything out as you said), and the source being former Saddam underling Dr. Araji (who himself has a track record of being anti-US and needs to be vetted himself), a malodorous smell is starting to rise of something pending about to happen.

I remember an article posted here on FR shortly after the invasion was wrapped up where Syria came out with a cryptic and out-of-the-blue statement that their chemical weapons program was now 'complete,' almost as if they were taunting us to do something about the fact they'd smuggled all those WMD's in.

I have also heard news reports recently that Saddam got alot of the cash we'd found from the Syrian govt, but again the story wasn't vetted as to what was offered in exchange for the cash. These two and many other pieces indicate some kind of exchange went on between Saddam and Syria.

Someone on another thread suggested we let them do this because we knew who was behind it and where the stuff would end up: Syria, so we set them up to later catch them red-handed. Which makes you think now things are in place to call Syria's hand, and this Lebanon thing is a foreshadow of things to come, and also why you see the Times rearing it's head again on the issue: trying to run interference.


227 posted on 03/14/2005 10:20:29 AM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: dervish
I guess this happened before Amnesty only documented Western human rights violations.

AI's publishing of their report was probably a "bureaucratic snafu" as everyone knows anti-western dictators get one free case of WMD usage or genocide as a mulligan.

228 posted on 03/14/2005 10:39:56 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: MisterRepublican

Have I drunk too much? The New York Times? This is New York, New York,USA and not New York, Fiji or something? New York, Nebraska, or...?


229 posted on 03/14/2005 12:26:18 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Thank you for that link! I was looking and couldn't find it.

From the story:
"the installations were left largely unguarded by allied forces in the chaotic months after the invasion."

Well *yeah* because they knew this story back in 2003! The stuff was already gone!


230 posted on 03/14/2005 12:29:26 PM PST by Terriergal (What is the meaning of life?? Man's chief end is to glorify God and to enjoy him for ever.)
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To: bitt

TOO funny!!!


231 posted on 03/14/2005 12:47:54 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: MisterRepublican
In a stunning about-face, the New York Times reported Sunday that when the U.S. attacked Iraq in March 2003, Saddam Hussein possessed "stockpiles of monitored chemicals and materials,"

It's not a stunning about-face.

It's merely a reflection of the fact that the Presidential Election is over.

232 posted on 03/14/2005 12:52:42 PM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: Strategerist; Carl/NewsMax
Geez, at times NewsMax gets as stupid as WingNutDaily. Key word there is "monitored." The monitored stuff wasn't in violation of UN resolutions. This isn't exactly some startling revelation.

Oy vey.

Carl, if you start purposefully misleading people like this, I'm gonna avoid your website.

233 posted on 03/14/2005 12:54:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
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To: MisterRepublican
The United Nations, worried that the nuclear material and equipment could be used in clandestine bomb production, has been hunting for it throughout the Middle East, largely unsuccessfully, the Times said.

It kinda makes me wonder if this doesn't have to do with Syria, at least mouthing, that they are willing to pull out of Lebannon......

234 posted on 03/15/2005 9:42:13 AM PST by b4its2late (Despite the high cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?)
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To: MisterRepublican
Am I having a time warp???

Call Art Bell the aliens have taken over the NY Times!

235 posted on 03/15/2005 9:43:33 AM PST by pointsal
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To: SunkenCiv
"Well, I'm sure Ronald Reagan's children"

It wasn't all of them.

236 posted on 03/15/2005 9:46:12 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Saddams Bombmaker Saddam's Bombmaker
by Khidhir Hamza
with Jeff Stein

237 posted on 03/15/2005 12:36:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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