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Black holes 'do not exist'
Nature ^ | 03/31/05 | Philip Ball

Posted on 03/31/2005 4:41:46 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

Black holes are staples of science fiction and many think astronomers have observed them indirectly. But according to a physicist at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, these awesome breaches in space-time do not and indeed cannot exist.

Over the past few years, observations of the motions of galaxies have shown that some 70% the Universe seems to be composed of a strange 'dark energy' that is driving the Universe's accelerating expansion.

George Chapline thinks that the collapse of the massive stars, which was long believed to generate black holes, actually leads to the formation of stars that contain dark energy. "It's a near certainty that black holes don't exist," he claims.

Black holes are one of the most celebrated predictions of Einstein's general theory of relativity, which explains gravity as the warping of space-time caused by massive objects. The theory suggests that a sufficiently massive star, when it dies, will collapse under its own gravity to a single point.

But Einstein didn't believe in black holes, Chapline argues. "Unfortunately", he adds, "he couldn't articulate why." At the root of the problem is the other revolutionary theory of twentieth-century physics, which Einstein also helped to formulate: quantum mechanics.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: artbell; blackholes; cosmology; cosmos; einstein; georgechapline; grayholes; quantummechanics; stephenhawking; stringtheory
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To: Dick Vomer

Just be sure to use a really HOT cup of tea!

Mark


61 posted on 03/31/2005 8:54:01 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: martin_fierro

ROTFLOL

Even funnier, right after you posted; the "the right side jedi" did.


62 posted on 03/31/2005 9:21:33 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: mhx

I once threw a frisbee that was sucked into a wormhole and never seen again.


63 posted on 03/31/2005 9:24:13 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: JohnnyZ
Obviously, someone hasn't looked inside Barney Frank's head.

"Not to mention his ___"
 

No, I'm almost certain someone has looked in his ___, as horrible as that is to consider.

64 posted on 03/31/2005 9:27:16 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Nick Danger

Actually, we are pets and the little white holes are so we can breathe.


65 posted on 03/31/2005 9:28:12 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Personal Responsibility

No one ever got on the Art Bell show by saying they "didn't" believe in something.


66 posted on 03/31/2005 9:29:34 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Nick Danger

You are very close to "unraveling" (just like those socks) the Masonic Conspiracy.

Have you ever met Quix?


67 posted on 03/31/2005 9:31:18 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Dick Vomer

Is that the Flux Capacitor?


68 posted on 03/31/2005 9:33:57 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: ApplegateRanch
So black holes don't exist, we're just seeing something that looks and acts like a black hole would, except for utilizing a different mechanism?

That's rather like saying, "'The Iliad' wasn't written by Homer, but by another Greek of the same name."

69 posted on 03/31/2005 9:35:51 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Dick Vomer

70 posted on 03/31/2005 9:43:25 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

Geez..This post is almost is like looking at Strobe Lights! LOL..


71 posted on 03/31/2005 9:45:55 PM PST by missyme (The Cosmic Effect of some Freepers...)
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To: Ichneumon
Is that the formula for the forbidden donut?


72 posted on 03/31/2005 9:52:05 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: timestax

Thanks for the ping!


73 posted on 03/31/2005 10:43:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: the right side jedi

Dark matter/energy smells an awful lot like phlostigon to me, ie a hypothetical substance defined to solve a problem in current theory.


74 posted on 04/01/2005 5:10:47 AM PST by Rifleman
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To: Ichneumon

that looks like some of the stuff I studied in Biochem..... jeez, what's scary is that I can follow those formulas... dang benzene rings and carbons with 4 bonds...... aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! the nightmares.


75 posted on 04/01/2005 5:39:12 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Ichneumon

Please just tell me that's not the chemical formula for Jack Daniels.


76 posted on 04/06/2005 7:36:17 PM PDT by par4 (It's Masters Week, spring is here and all's right with the world)
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Meet the Indian who took on Stephen Hawking
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Posted on 08/03/2004 1:16:56 AM EDT by CarrotAndStick
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1183887/posts


77 posted on 01/28/2007 10:04:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


78 posted on 01/28/2007 10:08:12 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL!


79 posted on 01/28/2007 10:11:43 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Fear of offending those openly committed to destroying you, is just plain damn stupid.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

There are Black holes same as White holes, but neither sucks, they blow.


80 posted on 01/28/2007 10:16:13 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Fear of offending those openly committed to destroying you, is just plain damn stupid.)
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