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Everyone knows that Fla. DCF has such a Steller Reputation.
1 posted on 04/02/2005 9:59:42 AM PST by Bigfitz
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The fix is in....


2 posted on 04/02/2005 10:03:37 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (a PROUD member of the "Blame the MSM first" crowd!!!!!)
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So the judge refused to release the info?

Why is this news?

That's just what's expected.

Now, it would be NEWS if. . .

The media decided to cover this in the same way they covered Bush's national guard documents.

But, that might put the right-to-death movement in a bad light.

So they'll ignore it. . .


3 posted on 04/02/2005 10:04:28 AM PST by CondorFlight
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But of course everything hidden by the left must remain hidden. But when the right even steps into that "grey area" between right and wrong, the left kicks into high gear, spins it and makes sure that the issue gets global publicity.

Remember! We are the evil ones! We're the ones who oppose a woman's right to her own body! Even if that body contains the body of another woman! We're the ones who in our hateful ignorance, don't embrace diversity with the pro-death, bug chasing, homosexuals. We're the narrow minded, fundementalist Christians!

Yes...let's NOT forget these things!

I don't think it's possible to have any more contempt for the left than as of this week with the murder of Terri Schaivo.
4 posted on 04/02/2005 10:04:33 AM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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It will be quite interesting if it turns out this guy was known to have been a real bastard by everyone, yet the media, DCF and judicial system colluded to keep that from the public so they could kill Terry.
5 posted on 04/02/2005 10:04:37 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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Judge Greer of course is the official in question sabotaging the abuse investigation, and ordering its vast number of allegations sealed without proper investigation.


6 posted on 04/02/2005 10:04:46 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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Wow. That's all I can say.


7 posted on 04/02/2005 10:06:46 AM PST by b4its2late (When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.)
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Welcome to FR.


8 posted on 04/02/2005 10:07:54 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Uh Oh,


04.02.05
Formal Complaint Filed Against Greer in Schiavo Case

http://www.theempirejournal.com/04020503_formal_complaint_filed.htm


9 posted on 04/02/2005 10:08:04 AM PST by Maria S (Some church members who sing "Standing on the Promises" are just sitting on the premises.)
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During a hearing Thursday, just hours after Terri Schiavo died, DCF attorney Jennifer Lima-Smith asked Greer to keep its records sealed, saying, "It's time to end this case."

Just a few weeks ago, however, the agency was pressing for a full blown abuse probe.

That's the problem with bureaucrats these days. Now they just want to sweep it under the rug and move on. This is so ridiculous! An investigation NEEDS to be made into Michael's motives. This can't be swept under.

If it's proven that MS was abusive and had other reasons to kill his wife, then it will show that this as not merely a case of what to do with severely handicapped people. It shifts completely into a case of state assisted homicide.

11 posted on 04/02/2005 10:09:20 AM PST by peteram
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Florida's Department of Children and Families had received nearly 90 allegations that Michael Schiavo had abused his wife in recent years - but a Florida judge ruled yesterday that DCF summaries of those allegations must remain secret

And how many of those allegations came from people that never met Terri or had a dog in the fight. For all that is made of the fact that it took Michael years to remember what she wanted, people overlook the fact that the SChindlers admitted in court that they knew Terri was in persistent vegetative state and it took them five or six days to report to the Federal Courts that Terri said "IIII waaaa..." If she really did say that dont you think they would have put that in their first series of appeals rather than their second. Only when they were out of ammunition did they decide to present that as reason to reattach feeding tube. They might as well said she got up and danced a jig.

12 posted on 04/02/2005 10:09:31 AM PST by Dave S
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Cautionary note:

"Florida's Department of Children and Families had received nearly 90 allegations that Michael Schiavo had abused his wife in recent years -..

This would not relate directly to the early-on suspicions that abuse by Michael may have caused her brain damage.

15 posted on 04/02/2005 10:15:13 AM PST by cookcounty (So just WHO bought insurance from Michael Schiavo's short-lived insurance company?)
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This doesn't pass the "smell test"


16 posted on 04/02/2005 10:15:49 AM PST by Fido969
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"Florida judge ruled yesterday that DCF summaries of those allegations must remain secret."

This is wrong, Wrong, WRONG! This judge, if it isn't Greer, needs to be impeached. The judicial system has far too much power and the judges know this and wield it like an ax. These judges need to be held accountable instead of being paid under the table to the highest bidder.

I was, am and still feel that AI needs to replace the judges. Think about all the savings. As far as penalties, just program the punishment to fit the crime. But the argument against that line of thought is that judges take into account the human factor where AI's couldn't. So, where was the human factor taken into consideration by Greer? Lord, he needs to be impeached as well as the whole judicial system.


18 posted on 04/02/2005 10:16:35 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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PINg


23 posted on 04/02/2005 10:18:56 AM PST by tertiary01 (Terri---judged as viable by the Court of Public Opinion, which is tougher than any court of law)
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(It was posted on FR last week) that Michael Schiavo was said to have been hired by the outgoing Pinellas County Sheriff as the 'Jail's RN'...

This...While Mikey was under investigation for domestic abuse
crimes against Teri...


37 posted on 04/02/2005 10:32:22 AM PST by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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If Michael Schiavo has been unfairly accused and then exonerated by the DCF report, I am sure he will be releasing the report on his own, forthwith.
In fact,he should hold a joint press conference with the DCF investigators who prepared the report,
to go over each and every accusation and the subsequent finding that each allegation was unfounded.
At least that's what an innocent man would do.
For those who say this is a personal matter- Terri was comparable to a helpless child.
If Terri had been toddler , with the same accusations, the world would be in an uproar demanding answers.
Judge Greer and Schiavo were in charge of her care.
How do you order that a person with a urinary tract infection not receive antibiotics ?
This isn't about right to die or how she was initially injured, this is about how she was ordered cared for, in the interim.
There is a serious stench about the way Schiavo/Greer ordered Terri cared for-long before Schiavo remembered that she no longer wanted to live.
It's very troubling that the hospice nurses have said that they had to sneak basic care to Terri, behind Schiavo/ Greer's back.
This could be seen as a case of de facto child abuse .
It appears that no matter how serious the allegations against the guardian, Judge Greer dismissed them out of hand and continued to give the guardian carte blanche to rule over the ward.
I just hope that if Judge Greer has appointed guardians to care for other children, he is not ignoring accusations of abuse.


44 posted on 04/02/2005 10:36:54 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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The FL State can investigate into the Terri's death with hearings. It is the law. All records can be subpoenaed
54 posted on 04/02/2005 10:44:36 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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No surprise there.

Does anyone else get reminded of the character Eric Robert's played in "Star 80" when you see Michael Schiavo? The gold chains, bracelets, the oh-so-80s- blow dried hair... and did I mention the total domineering bully factor?

For those not in the know, Star 80 was about the playboy centerfold Dorothy Stratton and her abusive boyfriend/husband who ended up killing her.


56 posted on 04/02/2005 10:46:03 AM PST by Lanza
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Why are you blaming the DCF - they started 2 investigations into Terri's abuse - and the state's attorney general's office SHUT IT DOWN. Maybe you should be blaming the right organization.

This whole thing just reeks of corruption unlike anything I've ever seen.

I kept asking myself why Florida. I've finally decided these PRO-DEATH people love FL because it's full of elderly people who moved there after retirement. WHO's NEXT ..??


62 posted on 04/02/2005 10:53:17 AM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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90 allegations? So did 90 freepers send in allegations, or were they from people who were actually working with Terri? Since none have been proven, it's hard to tell.


71 posted on 04/02/2005 11:01:02 AM PST by Quick1
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