Posted on 04/02/2005 7:17:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - Legal setbacks for Terri Schiavo's parents continue even after the brain-damaged woman's death.
The Pinellas County Medical Examiner's Office denied the parents' request to have independent medical experts observe Schiavo's autopsy has been denied.
Over their seven-years-long legal battle, Bob and Mary Schindler sought independent investigation of their daughter's condition. They wanted to select a neuropathologist and a forensic expert to observe her autopsy.
The autopsy was completed yesterday. Results are not expected for several weeks.
Terri Schiavo's body was cremated today. Her husband plans to bury her remains in a family plot in Pennsylvania. He is required to tell the Schindlers about any memorial services he plans for her, and where the ashes are interred.
The Schindlers have planned their own memorial service for their daughter Tuesday night in Gulfport.
Why? You want us only to remember some who were murdered by the Nazis but not others?
I tend to agree with you and I understand.
I am sure people do not do it to offend Jews, nor to minimize the horrors of what the Nazis did to the Jews -- but one can hardly miss the parallel in attitudes, such as "it's legal, they are only following orders" and so on.
And remember all the appeasers in Europe, who didn't think Hitler would ever really do what he eventually did.
death cult zoomies will cheer this...
This is not a question of a "guest examiner", as you try to distort it. It is merely allowing a collegue to observe the autopsy.
What??? Are you completely clueless? I want to remember all who have been murdered. Where do you get any other idea? What I am saying is that Nazi Germany was thus far a unique event. 6 million Jews were exterminated in an effort to extinguish a race of people. "Useless" disabled and other "undesirable" people were also put to death. The Nazi were a regime of such evil that they are not comparable to any mistakes going on in the US legal system. We should not overplay our hand when we have a very valid point to make.
So stop putting ridiculous words in my mouth. OK??
What??? Are you completely clueless? I want to remember all who have been murdered. Where do you get any other idea? What I am saying is that Nazi Germany was thus far a unique event. 6 million Jews were exterminated in an effort to extinguish a race of people. "Useless" disabled and other "undesirable" people were also put to death. The Nazi were a regime of such evil that they are not comparable to any mistakes going on in the US legal system. We should not overplay our hand when we have a very valid point to make.
So stop putting ridiculous words in my mouth. OK??
Sorry for the double post.
We have been quietly killing off some elderly and disabled for a long time now, hidden away from the public view, by denying them nourishment and hydration. I believe, but don't have stats, that some cancer patients are deliberately overdosed with chemo and possibly morphine to speed along the death process. It is seen as more merciful, and indeed it may be, but it is still playing God.
The only case I cold endorse for pulling a feeding tube *might* be in some medical conditions where pumping liquid food into a cancerous stomach or hydration would cause more pain and discomfort in the terminally ill.
Using the Holocaust as an analogy overplays our hand. It is a turn off to those not as committed to Terri's cause. Nazi analogies can be used in many cases. There are often parallels. But his is not Nazi Germany. Not even close. We do not need to invoke it to make our case. It's better and more effective if we don't.
I'm not trying to "distort" anything.
I am asking a question, "Is it common procedure to have guest examiners?"
If the answer is 'No' then this is a silly conspiracy thread.
If it's 'Yes', then I'll agree that suspicions should be raised.
I agree with all you said in your post #68. Thanks for understanding.
The Nazis are just as guilty of killing the disabled as they are of killing Jews. In fact the first people they killed were the disabled whose lives they termed "unworthy of living”. Many people have forgotten that.
The Nazis quit the euthenasia project when the Catholic Church started making noise about it. With all the noise made over the Shiavo case, our courts didn't even blink. That's scary
Probably not, unless we do nothing. We must make our voices heard as the brave Priests and others in Germany did.
Our leaders need to lead. Right now they are looking like punching bags of the judiciary. We need to encourage them to stand up for our rights as endowned by the Creator, as is our belief and as it is the foundation of our government.
Anything less in unacceptable.
There is no plan in the US to exterminate a race or class of people. This case was an abomination that occurred under very strange circumstances. We should all work hard to prevent this from ever happening again. But this is not like Nazi Germany so stop diminishing what happened to the Jews who were sent to gas chambers. It is not the same and we are not on the way. Get it!!!
I am Jewish and am very sensitive to the comparisons. They are over the top and do more to defeat our cause then help it. Stick to the horrors we have here and stay away from the "slippery slope." It is not persuasive and does not help.
Sorry. I disagree. There is widespread 'facilitation of the death process' taking place every day in hospices and nursing homes. Florida has the most at stake with their millions of elderly. This is not an isolated case.
Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo, and George Felos want to cover their tracks in this autopsy. That would be they only reason that they would not want an obeserver.
No need to be iffy. The right criteria are really very simple. Water should be given as needed to prevent dehydration. Food should be given as needed to prevent starvation or malnutrition. Really very simple.
To get slightly more detailed, if a person's kidneys are functioning, they will continuously extract water from the blood it will be necessary to replace that water. If a person's kidneys have stopped functioning, the body will not lose water nearly as fast and will have no way to rid itself of excess water, and so much less water will be needed to prevent dehydration that continuing to add water to the body would cause problems of its own.
Even without such detail, though, the principle is very simple and should be applied consistently.
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