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Iranian Alert - May 3, 2005 - WSJ: Iran's Secret Deal with India!
Regime Change Iran ^ | 5.3.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 05/03/2005 1:40:04 PM PDT by DoctorZIn

Top News Story

Iran's Secret Deal with India

An excerpt:

Iran is looking to India to frustrate U.S. efforts to isolate Iran economically. Iran has made significant progress in developing a pipeline from southeastern Iran through Pakistan into India. The deal will provide India with 7.5 million tons of natural gas annually. India needs the energy as its economy is growing by 8% annually. The U.S. has been trying to convince India not to conclude the deal, but it appears unlikely to succeed.

But the deal does not end there. According to the Wall Street Journal it also includes $25 billion dollars worth of military equipment. India has been a major producer of military equipment for Russia and Iran is a new source of military sales. This new relationship has resulted in a secret deal:

According to Jane's Defense Weekly and Defense News, Tehran and New Delhi inked a secret defense agreement in 2003 providing India with access to Iranian military bases in the event of a war with regional rival Pakistan. This is hardly surprising; both nations have mutual concerns regarding security threats that could emerge from Pakistan, particularly if Islamic radicals ever succeeded in toppling Gen. Pervez Musharraf from power.

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1 posted on 05/03/2005 1:40:21 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 05/03/2005 1:42:18 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

Not really surprising. It appears India will, like Russia, attempt to extract every yuan, dollar, yen, and riyal it can from the respective countries.


3 posted on 05/03/2005 1:49:34 PM PDT by snowsislander
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To: DoctorZIn

Lovely (sarcasm).


4 posted on 05/03/2005 1:55:14 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: snowsislander

That's fine, we're not exactly tied to them if Pakistan starts whoopin their ass.


5 posted on 05/03/2005 2:35:00 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: snowsislander

It's called enlightened self interest and everyone does it. If we don't like it we have to make it worth their while not to, either in potential benefits or problems which make the deal less attractive to them.

Until then, good for them.


6 posted on 05/03/2005 3:15:14 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

We could pay off the Indians to not open the pipeline until the Iranian regime is gone. True, they want energy, not cash.

We could always sabotage the pipeline and blame the Pakistanis. Foster some more chaos between the two, now that Kashmir seems to have quieted down somewhat.


7 posted on 05/03/2005 4:15:57 PM PDT by JWojack (Blockade Iran, bomb Syria - this autumn!)
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To: DoctorZIn

This is a serious development. The Iranian Mullahs are vermin.
India is only helping to prop us these despots with these actions. $25 billion in defense deals??? What the heck will India sell to Iran. Hopefully not the BrahMos Cruise missile.


8 posted on 05/03/2005 5:31:20 PM PDT by The Incredible One (Mohammed is a true "Profit" of God)
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To: DoctorZIn

The people of India should also see the difference between an Islamic dictatorship like Iran and a genuine democracy like Israel. While the former are opportunists, Israel is a genuine friend of India. India should understand that any weapons sold to Iran will be pointed towards Israel and the free world.


9 posted on 05/03/2005 5:33:05 PM PDT by The Incredible One (Mohammed is a true "Profit" of God)
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To: DoctorZIn

http://www.globenet.org/rsf/voteblog.php?cat=6&lang=en

Some Persian blogs!


10 posted on 05/03/2005 7:08:24 PM PDT by Khashayar (Take Carter! We'll Keep the Shah. <<< American protestors defending the Shah in NYC in 1979)
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To: All

Iran derange hostile radio systems

Persian Journal
May 3rd, 05

The Islamic Republic of Iran's experts designed a system that can deranged hostile radars, information and communication systems.

The head of management board in the Islamic Republic of Iran's Defense Ministry said that 'making secure information systems, setting a strong information link between forces and deranging enemies' information systems are crucial in modern wars'.

Ali Hakim-javadi added the Defense Ministry's experts designed the information system for the Iranian armed forces and they did not receive any help from other countries.

He said that our experts can build all kinds of sophesticated military and communication systems inside the country.

http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_6630.shtml


11 posted on 05/03/2005 7:09:34 PM PDT by Khashayar (Take Carter! We'll Keep the Shah. <<< American protestors defending the Shah in NYC in 1979)
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To: The Incredible One
I'm not buying this report. $25 billion? please.

Anyway, "It's the gas, stupid." When the need for gas makes our President hold hands with a Saudi Prince, we shouldn't be surprised when an energy deficient India looks to Iran for energy sources. What are we gonna tell the Indians - Let your economy slow down because we don't like Iran?!

12 posted on 05/03/2005 9:03:10 PM PDT by Saberwielder
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To: Saberwielder
That's fine, we're not exactly tied to them if Pakistan starts whoopin their ass.

Rofl!
13 posted on 05/04/2005 5:50:09 AM PDT by Srirangan
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To: DrZin

Wednesday, May 04, 2005

Mr. "R": A Candidate with a Record!

May 04, 2005
Iran va Jahan
Shaheen Fatemi



As the 17 June 2005 approaches, there is more and more noise about Mr. Rafsanjani as the regime’s last hope for the ninth so-called presidential elections. As it is normal in democratic countries, anyone running for the first time for public office needs to present a platform. But if this person has already served in public office, it is his record of the past achievements that can serve as a basis of judgment for the electorate. Mr. “R” has been continuously in-office for the past quarter-of-a-century and indeed has a “record!”

If there is one person who should be held totally responsible for every major decision that has been taken by this regime for the past 26 years, that person is Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. He has been in charge from day one and has not let go with control of power for one day. While Khomeini was alive, he held many influential positions such as speaker of the parliament and he was always the main manipulator of the old man.

When Khomeini died Mr. Rafsanjani was elected as president in 1989 and re-elected in 1993. After 8 years, because of term limitation, he could not run again but he refused to retire. Instead, he invented a new office for himself which in effect placed him in control of real power. This new position was chairmanship of the ‘Council of Expediency” which was supposedly there to resolve any disagreement between the Majlis (the parliament) and the “Guardian Council.” In other words, the newly created body, headed by Mr. R. has had the final say!

In short, Mr. “R” is the embodiment of every aspect and every action of the Islamic Republic and therefore, responsible for its wrong doings. Unfortunately no one inside the country is able to raise any charges against this candidate. One very courageous journalist, Akbar Ganji, who in a very limited manner tried to do some investigative reporting about the Rafsanjani Financial Empire, has been rotting in solitary confinement for the past four years.

The following list is only a partial and incomplete summary of charges related to the three areas of violation of human rights, practice and encouragement of terrorism and identification with corruption that are often associated with Mr. Rafsanjani:





Violation of Human Rights



Mass killings of political prisoners

Political serial killings in Iran

Holding thousands of political prisoners

Political oppression against the opposition

Jailing of Akbar Ganji and other dissident journalist who tried to expose his corrupt practices.

Oppression of religious minorities

Suppression of civil liberties

Censorship and closure of publications

Gross violation of women’s rights

Jamming satellite TV and radio stations


Practice and Encouragement of International and Domestic Terrorism



Involvement in terrorist activities in the Middle East, Europe and Argentina

Playing a key role in the 1979 Occupation of the US Embassy in Tehran and holding hostages for 444 days.

Murdering of journalists and other opponents

Execution, flogging, stoning and amputation of limbs in public

Assassination of political dissidents outside of Iran

Intimidation of opponents and forcing them to flee the country resulting in millions of Iranian refugees throughout the world.

Pursuit of weapons of mass destruction

Engaging in xenophobic and anti-somatic oratory as “temporary Friday-Prayer leader.”


Involvement in Massive Corruption



Amassing a phenomenal personal fortune from corrupt practices and transfer of funds abroad.

Promotion of corruption, prostitution and addiction.

Expropriation of private property

Setting up phony foundations for personal gains

Setting up phony corporation for receiving stolen government property and contracts.

Engaging in fraudulent privatization schemes for private gains


In a free and democratic society any politician faced with such a long list of accusations would be answering charges in a court of law and if convicted serving time in jail instead of running for the highest office in land.


14 posted on 05/04/2005 6:32:07 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: DrZin

Allert ! The lives of two political prisoners in Danger !
Allert ! The lives of two political prisoners in Danger !

Based on a report from Karim Mohammadi , The brother of Esmail Mohammadi from the city of Bukan( Kurdistan province) who spent three years in Islamic Republic's prison , On Thursday April 21 he has recieved an order from the judiciary power and is sentenced to death. Ismail Mohammadi is 38 years old and has 5 children and is accused of sympathizing with " Kumeleh" ( A political group in Kurdistan province ) .Ismail Mohammadi is a political prisoner who is in a prison in "Urumieh" . This news have been endorsed by " Centre for Political Prisoners in Iran (Exile ) " .

In another news based on a report the regime as well decided to execute another political prisoner . His name is Hojat Zamani and he is one of those prisoner who recently went on hunger strike in " Rejai Shahr " prison .
IRAN WATCH CANADA


15 posted on 05/04/2005 6:55:48 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: DrZin

Allert ! The lives of two political prisoners in Danger !
Allert ! The lives of two political prisoners in Danger !

Based on a report from Karim Mohammadi , The brother of Esmail Mohammadi from the city of Bukan( Kurdistan province) who spent three years in Islamic Republic's prison , On Thursday April 21 he has recieved an order from the judiciary power and is sentenced to death. Ismail Mohammadi is 38 years old and has 5 children and is accused of sympathizing with " Kumeleh" ( A political group in Kurdistan province ) .Ismail Mohammadi is a political prisoner who is in a prison in "Urumieh" . This news have been endorsed by " Centre for Political Prisoners in Iran (Exile ) " .

In another news based on a report the regime as well decided to execute another political prisoner . His name is Hojat Zamani and he is one of those prisoner who recently went on hunger strike in " Rejai Shahr " prison .
IRAN WATCH CANADA


16 posted on 05/04/2005 6:56:13 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: ruiner

Pakistan will start wooping India's ass as soon as it realizes what struct it before its @SS vanished


17 posted on 05/04/2005 7:46:29 AM PDT by aidni
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To: The Incredible One
India will sell 25 billion$ worth of millitary equipment

Great

now we don't have to worry about from where to pay for the F15 jets
18 posted on 05/04/2005 7:51:00 AM PDT by aidni
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To: DrZin

2005 Wednesday 04 May
Iran judiciary sentences people to prison every 47 seconds!
Iran Press News: According to the regime news agency ILNA, Nasser Jafarqoli, the dirctor of the programming and planning for the Islamic Republic's prisons declared that in Iran every 47 seconds another person is jailed!


19 posted on 05/04/2005 8:07:22 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: persiandissident

Iran’s ex-Foreign Minister hints at official role in terror abroad Wed. 4 May 2005



Iran Focus

Tehran, May 04 - In an interview with a government-run website, Ali-Akbar Velayati, Iran’s former Foreign Minister and a senior adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who is also a candidate in the forthcoming June 17 presidential elections, hinted at official responsibility for terrorist operations abroad against its opponents.

In an interview with the Baztab website yesterday, Velayati referring to the events in the 1990s, said, "Relations with Europe, through much work and the use of diplomatic techniques over a long period, were such that it maintained our national honour and dignity, however with the chain of events, such as the murder of Bakhtiar, the Mykonos case, and the events in Austria and Belgium, these initiatives suffered a setback."

Shahpour Bakhtiar was murdered in Paris in August 1991, while in September 1992 four Iranian Kurdish opponents of the regime were killed in a Greek restaurant called Mykonos in Berlin. Abdolrahman Ghasemlou, head of the Democratic Party of Kurdistan was murdered in Vienna in 1989. Velayati's allusion to the Belgian "event" refers to the discovery of three huge 320-mm mortars inside an Iranian ship in the port of Antwerp in Belgium in 1996. Consequent investigations by Belgian police determined that the regime's Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) was planning to use these mortars to attack the residence of Maryam Rajavi, the President-elect of the National Council of Resistance (NCRI), north of Paris.

Following a three-year review, a Berlin court announced in 1997 that a special committee, made up of Khamenei, former President Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, Velayati, and Ali Fallahiyan (then Intelligence Minister), was directly responsible for the terrorist activities by the Iranian regime abroad and issued an international warrant for these individuals' arrest.

Velayati’s acknowledgement was greeting with alarm by Iran’s state-run media, with one news outlet stating that the admission would have dire consequences for the regime.


20 posted on 05/04/2005 8:09:35 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: persiandissident

2005 Wednesday 04 May
Exacerbation of suppression of students & activists at the threshold of the regime's flashy elections
Iran Press News: Khatami's Propaganda Minister, Younessi, in a speech admonished boycotters of the fake and flashy June elections and ordered that a speech organized by the student groups and other activists be quashed.

According to received reports: "In a dispatch by the Ministry of Propaganda to the Office of Security at the universities around the nation, in lieu of the flood of the boycott of the elections throughout the universities and the parpticipation of "extremist" factions, it is specifically essential that the presence of the following persons be strictly prohibited in Student gathering and programs." The dispatch continues: "The Ministry of Propaganda of the government of Khatami issues explicit orders to forbid Dr. Mohammad Maleki, Ali Afshari, Abdollah Momeni, Reza Delbari, Mehdi Habibi and Dr. Hatam Qaderi from publicly speaking due to their active role in encouraging the boycott of the elections."

Due to the regime's alarming need for maximum participation in the upcoming presidential elections, an enormous amount of pressure is being applied by the Revolutionary court and the security forces on the student movement.

In the western part of the country 4 students from Sahand University of Tabriz, after a year of privation from university, have been sentenced to 99 months in prison and for the 4 students in the eastern part of the country, in the province of Seestan & Baluchistan life sentences have been issued all around. Everyday more and more arrests as well as intolerable judiciary and security verdicts are handed down for the student activists across the country.

Radio Farda, the Persian broadcast of the Radio Free Europe also produced a report stating: "The Propaganda office of the central province, in a secret directive has prohibited any public speeches by various opposition members and activists who promote the boycott of the elections. The majority of these people are from the outraged university types."


21 posted on 05/04/2005 9:06:04 AM PDT by persiandissident (Free The People, Please)
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To: DoctorZIn

..............significant progress in developing a pipeline from southeastern Iran through Pakistan into India.

According to Jane's Defense Weekly and Defense News, Tehran and New Delhi inked a secret defense agreement in 2003 providing India with access to Iranian military bases in the event of a war with regional rival Pakistan...............

The Indian's and the ragheads are not as smart as I thought!

If the pipeline through Pakistan is to provide Indian energy during a war with Pakistan, they better take over that portion of Pakistani land that the pipeline crosses, before the pipeline is blown to smithereens.


22 posted on 05/04/2005 9:13:55 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: aShepard



A developing country like india needs energy to sustain its 6% economic growth. Since it doesn't have enough energy resources it has to get it from outside,in this case Iran!!!
The US needs to enter into an energy dialogue with india( which it is already doing). Inorder to meet its energy needs, america should offer nuclear reactor technology to india as an alternative thereby convincing india not to buy oil and gas from iran.
Since india is already a nuclear weapon state selling nuclear technology to it will not aid its military nuclear program in any way. Besides if america can sell nuclear technology to china why not india????
America should put pressure on pakistan not to allow its territory to be used for the pipeline project!!!

Another reason why india is developing close relationship with iran is because of pakistan . among other things pakistan wouldn't allow its territory to be used to transport goods from india to central asia. Thus india is developing iran's port facilities and building roads coonecting iran , afghanistan and central asia.
So the root cause of good relations between india and iran seems to be pakistan and as long as pakistan exists good indo-iranian relations will continue!!!!!!!
Besides it is in america's interest that india and iran have some kind of military co-operation. because if iran doesn't get military equipment from india it will get them from china and the last thing washington wants is an even greater iran- china axis( than already exists!!!) and chinese navy in the iranian ports!!!! atleast with india we have a chance to impress her not to sell deadly missiles to iran.


23 posted on 05/04/2005 10:31:43 AM PDT by phoenix_004 (america should understand india better!!)
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To: DoctorZIn
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24 posted on 05/04/2005 2:49:01 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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