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Afghans riot over abuse of Koran
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 5/11/05

Posted on 05/11/2005 8:40:07 AM PDT by ppaul

Kabul: Three people were killed and at least 60 injured when police clashed with more than 5000 Afghans infuriated by reports that US soldiers had desecrated the Koran at Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

"We have two dead in our hospital and 47 wounded. Three of the people injured are in a serious condition," said Mohammed Ayob, deputy director of the public health hospital in the eastern city of Jalalabad.

"The medical university hospital, the second hospital of the city, has registered one dead and 12 wounded are in hospital. Some other people with light injuries were cared for and have been discharged."

Witnesses said police opened fire as the crowd rampaged through the city yesterday.

Jalalabad police chief Abdul Rehman said: "Initially the demonstrators were peaceful but then a group joined them and the mob turned violent."

Western security sources said the governor's office and those of several aid agencies including UNICEF, the United Nations International Children's Emergency Fund, were set on fire.

The US State Department said on Tuesday that the Pentagon was looking into a report in Newsweek magazine that interrogators at the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, kept copies of the Koran in toilets to annoy prisoners.

The protesters, which one police source in Jalalabad said numbered "maybe 10,000", also denounced US-backed President Hamid Karzai, shouting: "Death to America's allies" and "Death to Karzai" as well as "Death to Bush". US troops stationed in the city stayed in their base, witnesses said.

The reports have also infuriated close US ally Pakistan.

The mostly Muslim country's foreign ministry demanded an explanation while parliament and cricket hero-turned politician Imran Khan urged Washington to apologise.

Mr Karzai is due to visit the US this month where he said he will seek special long-term ties with Washington.

¡ The US and other countries have secretly sent scores of Islamist prisoners to Egypt since the mid-1990s, where they have likely been tortured, a human rights group said on Tuesday.

Human Rights Watch issued a 53-page report criticising Egypt as the world's main recipient of prisoners, including suspected Islamist militants believed to offer useful intelligence for the US war on terrorism.

The report, titled Black Hole: The Fate of Islamists Rendered to Egypt, identifies 61 people who have been transferred into Egyptian custody since 1994.



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To: killjoy
It shouldn't become an international incident.

Do you know where the term "red herring" comes from?

61 posted on 05/11/2005 9:59:58 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Killborn
Why are some of us so intent on creating an enemy where totally unnsecessary?

Most of us are not.
But I have no desire to contradict them when, every day, they scream "murder" at me.

Mangy savage murderings dogs...

62 posted on 05/11/2005 10:01:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: killjoy
>>The bible is treated much worse in the same countries which are demanding this high level of respect.

>So you think that is alright?

I think he answered that. He (and I) doesn't think it's alright BUT:

We wouldn't organize our churches to go out and kill innocent people...BIG DIFFERENCE!
No one here is going to kill someone because they are "offended" by it.
63 posted on 05/11/2005 10:02:45 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ppaul

Why don't we just call it "art," like the lefties did with that NY exhibit with the crucifix in a jar of urine. No harm, no foul, right?


64 posted on 05/11/2005 10:06:16 AM PDT by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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To: keepingtrack; brownsfan
I don't think there's any evidence that the Germans worshipped Hitler in the way you would worship a god...

True.
They worshipped him better than most folks worship God.

65 posted on 05/11/2005 10:33:37 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: killjoy
I wonder if those on this thread making light of this would have similar feelings of joy if the bible or torah was used in the same way.

Nope. We pay tax dollars for perverts to do that and we call it public "art."

66 posted on 05/11/2005 10:35:16 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: Killborn

According to your profile we agree on many things. Not this.
Easier.....EASIER.
That would make a pitifully ironic epitaph for the civilized world, wouldn't it?
"It was 'easier' to let them alone until they did something."

Islam has put the world on notice for centuries. It will dominate-it must dominate. And EVERY human who calls themselves a Muslim believes this. They must, to be Muslim.

Leaving them alone until they ' did something' got us 9-11.
Every one of the hijackers was ' left alone', because they hadn't done anything.
If they hadn't been, those thousands who died would still be here.
Given a choice between being unfair and dead, we'd better choose unfair.


67 posted on 05/11/2005 10:36:39 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Publius6961

If they want "martyrdom", fine. We'll give it to them. If they leave us alone, they'll be afforded the same courtesy. When you talk about "Muslims", it's important to remember that this doesn't magically exclude Afghanis, Iraqis, and Iranian rebels. These are our friends. No need to infuriate them.


68 posted on 05/11/2005 10:37:44 AM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Seni-Auto)
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To: Killborn

NO one who calls themselves a Muslim is my friend. NO one. They may be LESS of an enemy- for now- but call someone who believes what Islam is a 'friend'? Not I.
I am not compatible with anyone who belongs to a death cult from the 10th century any more than I would be with a neanderthal.
You may designate your friends however you choose.
I will never consider any Muslim my friend, or the friend of my country.
Never.


69 posted on 05/11/2005 10:46:25 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I don't advocate a reactive stance. If they are intent on hurting us, we hit them first. That's the point of preemption. What I mean is don't go after those who leave us alone or are not a threat to us. The first instant some mullahnut starts rounding up terrorists, we hit them and we hit them hard.

Remember, when speaking of Muslims, we include people like PM Ayad Allawi, PM Harmid Karzai, and the brave people of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Iran who are standing up for freedom. They believe this deeply, yet don't want to destroy the "Zionists" or the "Great Satan". Concentrate on the Hamas, Al Qaeda, PLO, etc while we build up alliances with the others and get them away from the jihadists, CAIR terrorist group, race and hate pimps of the Demonseptic party, the lying, propagandist DeathScreamMedia who never ever fail to denigrate Pres. Bush and our troops as "enemies of Islam", and the "professors" and "experts" brainwashing them into thinking America and Israel is the root of all the evil in the world.

Speaking of the DSM, when was the last time we heard ANYTHING positive about Islam in the news. What about the Jews, Christians, Bddhists, etc?


70 posted on 05/11/2005 10:48:38 AM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Seni-Auto)
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To: killjoy
I wonder if those on this thread making light of this would have similar feelings of joy if the bible or torah was used in the same way.

It probably is and besides 9-11 told us these radical Muslims consider it virtuous to KILL Christians and Jews. Frankly, I don't care what they do to the Koran. Burn it publicly for all I care.

71 posted on 05/11/2005 10:48:39 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

If there were a way to get Koran's free( no way am I putting any money into Muslim hands), I would advocate burning one as part of every American holiday- religious and otherwise.
4th of July is coming.
Independence Day.
Good start.


72 posted on 05/11/2005 10:51:39 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

I can't convince you and you can't convince me. We'll agree to disagree.

But don't worry, if the horde invaded a la "Red Dawn", you'll see me fighting in the streets just the same.


73 posted on 05/11/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Seni-Auto)
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To: ppaul

Wasnt it the Afghanies that blew up two mega statues of the Buddha?


74 posted on 05/11/2005 10:54:34 AM PDT by Tungenchek
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To: weegee

What did they do at Waco?


75 posted on 05/11/2005 10:56:52 AM PDT by Killborn (Playing Russian Roulette with a Loaded Seni-Auto)
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To: jjmcgo
Moral relativism, equating Islam with Christianity and Judaism.

This is true. Islam has much more in common with Torah Judaism than Christianity or modern Judaism.

Read Exodus and Deuteronomy some time.

76 posted on 05/11/2005 10:58:46 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
We wouldn't organize our churches to go out and kill innocent people...BIG DIFFERENCE!

In America you wouldn't In Indonesia they would.

Muslims in America didn't riot, either. This is as much cultural as it is religious.

77 posted on 05/11/2005 11:00:13 AM PDT by frgoff
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To: lsee

After all the trouble to avoid even the appearance of this conflict being a "holy war",

A little late for that. My opinion.


78 posted on 05/11/2005 11:00:34 AM PDT by Isabelle
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To: ppaul

More folks die from protesting, than have died from "abuse"... gotta love it.


79 posted on 05/11/2005 11:01:59 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: killjoy

I doubt we'd riot and kill people over it. Perhaps we ought to?


80 posted on 05/11/2005 11:09:08 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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