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WOMEN WHO HAVE ABORTIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN
The Drudge Report ^ | 15 may 2005 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 05/16/2005 1:39:14 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South

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To: avg_freeper

Abortion IS a medical risk to the baby.


41 posted on 05/16/2005 3:21:54 PM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: Mark in the Old South
A dramatic rise in repeat abortions has reinforced fears that women are increasingly having terminations for lifestyle reasons.

GASP!!!

/sarcasm

42 posted on 05/16/2005 3:29:31 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: LauraJean

Thank you for your prayers!


43 posted on 05/16/2005 3:29:37 PM PDT by blondatheart (No More Tears.....)
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To: wardaddy

Thank you for your kind words!


44 posted on 05/16/2005 3:30:08 PM PDT by blondatheart (No More Tears.....)
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To: Mark in the Old South
There is no reform that will keep up with a dwindling population of workers supporting the retired population. 2 young and low pay workers will not always tolerate supporting an elderly person who is far better off then the people who support them. If you want to fix SS than you have to factor in the wage earning population.

You're right. It is a matter of demographics. In 1950 there were 16 workers for every SS retiree, today it is 3.3 and by 2030 it will be 2 to one. It is an inescapable fact that just won't change overnight. The huge baby boomer cohort will increase the present 45 million people receiving SS checks to over 70 million in just a little over a decade.

If it weren't for immigration, legal and illegal, the US population would be declining like Europe's. The wealthier and more developed a country becomes, the lower the birthrate.

45 posted on 05/16/2005 3:32:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Mark in the Old South
Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Total Abortions since 1973

46,023,191

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

46 posted on 05/16/2005 3:37:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse?)
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To: blondatheart; LauraJean
Joining you and LauraJean in prayer ...
47 posted on 05/16/2005 3:40:48 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: Pegita

Thank you!


48 posted on 05/16/2005 3:56:25 PM PDT by blondatheart (No More Tears.....)
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To: blondatheart
this is if these women can become mothers at all.

You are lucky, relative to what could have happened, and I am happy for you in the blessing of having a daughter. My wife (long before I met her) had an abortion at the insistence of her boyfriend. Her next pregnancy nearly killed her due to the fetus forming in her fallopian tube which was caused by the incomplete evacuation of "parts" from the first abortion. This fetus was highly malformed and necessarily aborted. She has been left unable to conceive another baby.

She was a teenager and didn't know what she was doing and was intentionally mislead by PP of Vermont. PP told her "it's only a blob of tissue" and "the procedure is harmless" and "you can always have a baby later." Being very young and under heavy pressure from her boyfriend she believed them. She is now a committed Christian and is heart broken about what she did and the result.

One abortion can leave a woman permanently sterile.

49 posted on 05/16/2005 4:06:28 PM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it." - B. Franklin)
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To: LauraJean
I am always amazed at "Christians" that are pro abortion....I do not think heaven rejoices when another innocent life is taken...our church has a very private bible study for men or women that have had abortions ...planned parenthood neglects to tell the long term effects on the women that have had abortions...
50 posted on 05/16/2005 4:11:05 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Kimmers
I am always amazed at "Christians" that are pro abortion....

Usually apostates who consider themselves PC do-gooders.

51 posted on 05/16/2005 4:22:33 PM PDT by wardaddy ( Lucchese Belt Raised)
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To: Mark in the Old South
They pay for it in the long run physically and mentally
52 posted on 05/16/2005 4:30:24 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: wardaddy

Well, that would define my brother and sister in law....Minnesota liberal Lutherans


53 posted on 05/16/2005 4:32:54 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: highimpact

Often all that remains is bitterness and anger, and externalization of blame.

Is it just me, or is this a perfect description of all Democrats since Bush defeated Kerry?

There is a common thread between those who commit abortion and those who vote leftwing. Both are unwarranted acts of aggression, and each exacts a toll on the perpetrator. Neither can be totally whole until they repent and heal spiritually.

Leftwing activists are very much like aborters--each intends to do harm, and each tries to deceive herself that she is really blameless.

I would guess, for example, based on the vituperative hate at DU, that a large proportion of the posters there are people who have committed, or coerced, one or more abortions themselves.

54 posted on 05/16/2005 4:47:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: blondatheart

Best wishes for your #2.

As for whether the women described in this article can ever become mothers, they certainly can physically. The notion that abortion causes fertility problems is a myth. This is illustrated clearly by the woman in this story who had 6 abortions in 12 months, and on a larger scale, by the statistics from the old Soviet Union, where contraceptives weren't available, and everyone used abortion for birth control -- according to most studies on the subject, the AVERAGE Soviet woman had had in the neighborhood of 9 abortions (and under far less than optimal medical standards). Yes, women just keep getting pregnant after all those abortions. Post-abortion infertility is nearly always the result of some factor other than the abortion.

More importantly, society will be much better off if women who can't run their lives any better than this, don't ever have children. I personally have no objection to abortion, especially early abortions. But it's obviously easier, cheaper, and safer to use a reliable contraceptive. Any woman who still hasn't figured that out by her 3rd or 4th abortion, is either really mentally defective, or an out of control alcohol/drug addict. Either way, she has no business reproducing. In a country like the UK, where the national health service is providing all these abortions free (i.e. at taxpayer expense), I don't think there should be any ethical obstacle to sticking an IUD in these women whether they want it or not, as a condition for their 3rd free abortion.


55 posted on 05/16/2005 4:58:29 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mark in the Old South

I remember back in college a fellow I knew suggested something that would upset both sides, but he thought was a possible solution. He said that the first abortion could be allowed, but any after that would involve a sterilization.


56 posted on 05/16/2005 5:03:45 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Walk Softly, For a Dream is Born)
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To: TigersEye
Her next pregnancy nearly killed her due to the fetus forming in her fallopian tube which was caused by the incomplete evacuation of "parts" from the first abortion.

Who told her this? Ectopic pregnancies are common in women who have never had abortions. And if a tube was blocked by "parts" from a previous abortion (not actually possible, since the resulting infection would have killed her, if it hadn't been surgically corrected) or for any other reason, it's unlikely that sperm would be able to reach the egg in the upper fallopian tube, while the fertilized egg was unable to go the opposite direction in the same tube and reach the uterus. Ectopic pregnancies often result in a blocked tube, but they are rarely caused by a blocked tube.

And if tubal blockage was the cause of her infertility, after the ectopic pregnancy, that would have no effect on her ability to conceive via IVF.

57 posted on 05/16/2005 5:06:54 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mark in the Old South

Is anyone surprised about this? I know I'm not. I met a woman from Russia about 20 years ago who had had 7 abortions! Frankly I was amazed that she had any kids at all. I think she had one or two, and I don't know when they came along. She must have had them before she'd had most of her abortions, though, or she probably wouldn't have been able to carry either of them to term.


58 posted on 05/16/2005 5:58:04 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You're looking at this all wrong. Would you WANT offspring from such a woman?

Childless couples would.

59 posted on 05/16/2005 6:04:34 PM PDT by skr (May God bless those in harm's way and confound those who would do the harming)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It was not her mistake but mine. Apparently I misstated the facts of the case. She had a cyst formed around "pieces of skin and eyebrows" according to her doctor, which caused one ovary and fallopian tube to be removed. Then she had an ectopic prenancy in the fallopian tube on the other side resulting in the loss of the fetus and fallopian tube.

Pathological differences aside the result is the same. One abortion led to the death a second fetus and permanent sterility.

60 posted on 05/16/2005 6:48:36 PM PDT by TigersEye ("It's a Republic if you can keep it." - B. Franklin)
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