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Do not be fooled, the Republican Senate RAPED you tonight.

Posted on 05/23/2005 5:57:23 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

I know how much we all want to support our side. I know that many of us are looking for something good in what happened tonight. Sadly, an honest assessment will result in a single conclusion, that tonight the Republican Senate failed the nation, in order to protect themselves from having to take a vote that would determine the future Presidential ambitions of some Senators.

Do not blame the 12 moderates, because we already knew that they could not be trusted. Do not blame the President, and tonight, you cannot even blame the Democrats. Their side did their job, which was to win. Our side did not. I am not posting this to bash the Republican Party, I am posting this, because I already see some of us looking for the silver lining in this turd. Do not do that. Face the reality of the situation, which is that Senators care about Senators. Bill Frist had ample opportunity to change Senate rules prior to the formation of the 109th Congress. He also had ample opportunity to pull the trigger weeks, even months ago. He did not, which is why I said in an earlier post, that would not vote for Frist for President no matter the outcome of events.

Unfortunatly, we have no recourse. We cannot give up the Senate in an attempt to punish the Senate Republicans. We cannot afford to cut off our noses to spite our faces. But the time will come, where we will have a chance to make our voices heard. Not tonight, not 2006 but maybe by 2008 we will have the voice, the organization, and the attention of enough minds to truly punish the Senate for what they did tonight.

Keep your powder dry, and wait for these folks to come into range. Save your ammo for now. But one day, we will make them pay.


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KEYWORDS: 109th; filibuster; gop; moststupidheadline; ussenate; waaaaaahhhhhhhh; wewon
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To: Pukin Dog

Why have you added "Account removed per poster's request." to your own home page?

41 posted on 05/23/2005 6:10:45 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: woofie

"The first thing that should happen is to get rid of McCain...
Arizona?"

McCain is such an arrogant jerk. I did not vote for him. But he won 70 per cent of the vote. He did not campaign at all.

Probably the only one who could beat him is J.D. Hayworth, but he's also been mentioned by the party for a run at the governorship.


42 posted on 05/23/2005 6:10:59 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Pukin Dog

Term limits now! Put the power back into the hands of the American people.


43 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:04 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (<insert clever, witty, or silly statement here>)
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To: Betaille
Those who use their Power responsibly, can indeed keep it forever. Those who do not, are the ones who forget where that Power came from. They tend to believe that they earned that Power, when it was probably only loaned for evaluation of effectiveness.

Some day, I want to vote for a party that does not just want to win if they can get along with their opponents, but a party that will kick the crap out of their enemy every single damn day.

44 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:11 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Betaille
"You seem to assume that the Republicans will be in power forever. Tonight they maintained a rule that could be very important WHEN, not IF, the Democrats once again have the majority in the Senate."

The next time the Dummies are in the majority, they'll change the Senate rules on Day 1 and refresh everyone's memories on the positions Repubs took these last few months to justify it.

What makes you think that they'll suddenly start playing fair??
45 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:12 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Betaille
Those who use their Power responsibly, can indeed keep it forever. Those who do not, are the ones who forget where that Power came from. They tend to believe that they earned that Power, when it was probably only loaned for evaluation of effectiveness.

Some day, I want to vote for a party that does not just want to win if they can get along with their opponents, but a party that will kick the crap out of their enemy every single damn day.

46 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Ever heard of Republicrats?


47 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:32 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: taillightchaser
The cancer, if not cut out, will metastasize
48 posted on 05/23/2005 6:11:48 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: FreedomCalls
I actually forgot that was there.
49 posted on 05/23/2005 6:12:29 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
Are you so angry that you'd stay home and let Hillary win?

Think about it....

50 posted on 05/23/2005 6:12:29 PM PDT by veronica (AntiCP - join the fun at the new forum...)
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To: Bosco

Because moderates are merely liberals with a guilty conscience.


51 posted on 05/23/2005 6:13:10 PM PDT by auburntiger
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To: FreedomCalls
#41..I want to know this too??

Is it a joke....?

You're not leaving because of 'tonight' are you?

52 posted on 05/23/2005 6:13:13 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: auburntiger
This deal is not that bad for us. We got 3 judges. We got 7 dems to agree not to vote for a filibuster (and if they do we reserve the right to nuke them). If it plays out as the 14 have agreed among themselves, our judges will get up or down votes. What more do we want?

I agree that I would have liked to nuke them. But the good news is that we didn't have to.

How would you like to be Reid right now. 7 of his 44 senators just signed an agreement not to support his filibusters.

53 posted on 05/23/2005 6:13:17 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: Betaille

sure, like when they helped confirm ruth bader ginsburg 96-3 with no debate.


54 posted on 05/23/2005 6:13:17 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Bosco

What a wonderful question.


55 posted on 05/23/2005 6:14:08 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Pukin Dog

They just wanna be re-elected. While America goes down the tubes. Susan Collins, Olympia Snowe, John McCain et al.. If they're so righteous why don't they vote for the party and face the music. This was staged as a passion play. I'm not applauding. They lost one vote in '06. Hail Hillary. If were gonna be ruled by 'Rats why not just drop the other shoe. What a joke.


56 posted on 05/23/2005 6:14:09 PM PDT by Calusa (Izzy lied 17 died.)
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To: kjam22

we got three judges. nothing else. the future promises from the Dem senators is worthless. we still have to engage in this fight for any conservative judges, with the added anchor that 7 on our side are likely to turn against us.


57 posted on 05/23/2005 6:16:07 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Pukin Dog

I want to get another mailing from the RNC asking for money.

I want to get another phone call from the RNC asking for money.

Oh yeah...



58 posted on 05/23/2005 6:16:09 PM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Betaille
Tonight they maintained a rule that could be very important WHEN, not IF, the Democrats once again have the majority in the Senate.

What? If the situation is ever reversed, the Dems will be all over the constitutional option like flies on fudge.

59 posted on 05/23/2005 6:16:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Pukin Dog

This changes nothing.

Bring the three "accepted" nominees to the floor tomorrow for up/down votes.

Also bring the next not-accepted nominee to the floor for a vote.

If the Dims filibuster, pull the N.O. trigger.


60 posted on 05/23/2005 6:16:59 PM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name!)
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